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Man yall better be grateful this is better than nothing tbh other pom events were to exploitable

Why is there such a big worry about the event being exploited? It just means a few (now very few) people will get some extra gear. It costs nothing as it is digital. ROM is already totally unbalanced and if that would keep a very few people interested and not quitting it would be a success. Instead we get a worthless insulting event (it can't be exploited because there is no purpose to exploit it there is nothing to be gained)) that makes many people mad and some quit in a final frustration over the insulting stupidity of it.
Give me an event that can be exploited and keeps some people happy and still playing the game over one that is worthless and insulting and drives people away from the game every time.

Agree with Aardvark3 and completely disagree with mohammed1234. This is not better than nothing because it clearly favors one segment of the gaming population over others. This is just another example of a poorly thought out event and a missed opportunity to encourage new and returning players to stick around. Instead of putting out an event EVERYONE could participate in, GF decided yet again to only focus on end game players and guilds. How's that strategy been working out for you GF? Still content to ignore casual players thinking you can recapture diminishing revenues by having a diamond sale about once a week now? So many issues with the game and yet again you chose the divisive route. Good job.

People have every right to be upset by this. Many players have invested large amounts of time and money into this game making it hard to simply walk away from it and start over in another game. Sadly, that decision seems to be becoming easier each passing day for many players and it is going to continue to suck for those wanting to stick it out hoping for something to change. Sorry to burst any bubbles here, but it won't change - not in the way you want it to at least. You might get changes but only the ones people who don't appear to play the game think are important. Such a shame for a game that has so much potential. Oh well, there's my rant done so I'll jump off the soap box for the next person to step up and speak. Merry Christmas one and all (happy holidays to those who celebrate something else).

Word pom event isn't needed midgamers are stI'll midgamers because they don't wanna Stat a certain way because they are worried about dying when most bosses do percent also as long as you got a good tank you should be fine.
Also they don't believe in support need support classes to do later instances.
Poms are irrelevant at this point and if you really want them make a group farm them normal isn't that hard.

Side note:

Remember when people were complaining about instances being only burn and wanted strats?

Now we have a FULL BLOWN strat instance, WHICH requires even LESS GEAR
to do, and now there is EVEN LESS groups doing it. i would argue if you
can do VoR, you necessarily can't do trolls nest.






The reason very few people do instances of any sort is that the cost in terms of time and deaths is very simply far greater than any rewards the drops that they can get. So little is OD or appropriate for their character that they may never get a piece of gear that they can actually use on that toon, in addition the cost of selling it (ABLs) makes it impossible to sell in the AH or transfer to another toon and ends up being stoned out almost every time.

It has nothing to do with strats or burns it is just no longer worthwhile to waste that amount of time and frustration for any reason other than to somewhat alleviate to boredom of the endgame players.

This event just shows that no one with any ability to change the game plays it regularly or cares about it enough to do anything to help the players.

The failure to see this and directly address it to include all players is why people quit. This event just reinforced the realization that no one with any power cares about the players or understands the game or the problems the players face. That is why this event is causing players to quit.

I think gf did the right thing with this event if you don't care to run endgame than why worry about poms ?
Od isn't necessary or needed to do runs also if you not expecting to die doing runs i don't know what to tell you
Yeah the game is a bit more than most but ppl still buying other wise they would of lowered prices.
Also ppl who are quitting prob haven't invested into the game and from a business point of view the seller would only be interested in investors not freeloaders who have nothing to offer but space.
Also stop expecting too much ppl are spoiled

Quoted from "SHAYdynasty"

these forum contests (which by the way can get you a costume and recipe of your choice, as well as a card that no longer is obtainable

Your team has tried very hard to make the season merry, despite this junk event and all the rage that came with it. That was the point: it wasn't about making things 'too casual'. Please don't add negative meanings that aren't there. We know folks are angry, but we tried to get the dungeon event improved. We were simply turned down at every turn.

Quoted from "mohammed1234"

ppl are spoiled

This, from the user who wanted GMs to come online each week to give away 100+ badge of the trial.

.....right.

Dont need to b7e endgame to do vor seen ppl with trans gear do it.
Also there is a "normal mode" you guys just want thousands of poms on yall many alts smh

Quoted from "SHAYdynasty"

I wouldn't go as far as saying GF/RW is doing things solely for endgamers. IIRC, this is the only POM event (if we want to actually call it one) that only "endgamers" can do. TBH on erebos, I don't even see endgamers doing this event. It's mostly mid to close-to-endgame players.

Last several updates has been about everyone: mirrorworld, draco cards, these forum contests (which by the way can get you a costume and recipe of your choice, as well as a card that no longer is obtainable), over 2 week XP event. how casual do we want this to be?


IN MY HONEST OPINION, are poms really going to help at this point? will it make a group of 12 (you don't even need 12) to go in vor and figure out the strat and do the instance? will it help people be better at siege? they are some players with some decked out gear, yet it still doesn't help them. it may help them get motivated? but that was what the merge was supposed to do, and well...

If they really cared about endgame, they wouldn't release an instance that is bugged on DAY 1 and still bugged to this day, improve OD drop rates, balance some classes so that they don't 2 shot people in full siege gear.

People are upset about not being able to stat with orange stats, but there are members in our raids with bag stats on some gear and do some mean DPS.

I'm not saying that this event was good, I'm just saying this isn't the reason a person should just stop playing.

Side note:
Remember when people were complaining about instances being only burn and wanted strats?
Now we have a FULL BLOWN strat instance, WHICH requires even LESS GEAR to do, and now there is EVEN LESS groups doing it. i would argue if you can do VoR, you necessarily can't do trolls nest.

/rant

I agree. Remember that "Orange stats are only 4% better" thread? It works both ways. 4% of nothing is still nothing. If you can't clear at the moment, PoMs won't make you clear. There's a bigger issue than stats that people need to address...

Quoted from "mohammed1234"

Word pom event isn't needed midgamers are stI'll midgamers because they don't wanna Stat a certain way because they are worried about dying when most bosses do percent

Lmfao. Something I agree with Wordking. Not only an out of meta statting pattern... all that Stam on PvE gear for a DPS is useless, but playing class combos that don't work.

Is it RW's fault that some classes are unbalanced? Yes.
Is it RW's fault that instance difficulty is made with the classes at the high end of the spectrum in mind? Yes.
Is it RW's fault that most of the people complaining are obstinate and play classes that don't work? No.

To be honest, midgame guilds not being able to clear Normal Mode of 2 level cap old instances was news to me. I bet the people at RW/GF weren't aware of that fact either lol. On the other hand, they have GM's that it looks like they just see as a decoration. Out of the loop on a lot of things. They should really use them. It was so simple to ask them whether they thought the event was a good idea or if it would be too easy/difficult >.<

Quoted from "aardvark3"

The reason very few people do instances of any sort is that the cost in terms of time and deaths is very simply far greater than any rewards the drops that they can get.

I'm sure the fact that it's only 3 or 4 guilds clearing endgame is due to the fact that everyone else doesn't bother.

Quoted from "mohammed1234"

I think gf did the right thing with this event if you don't care to run endgame than why worry about poms ?
Od isn't necessary or needed to do runs also if you not expecting to die doing runs i don't know what to tell you

Kinda harsh but true. Seems like people want to jump from zero to hero. But, maybe then want to be able to farm PoMs all day, get thousands of them and sell them? Pulling is not the only use I guess.

Quoted from "mohammed1234"

Also ppl who are quitting prob haven't invested into the game and from a business point of view the seller would only be interested in investors not freeloaders who have nothing to offer but space.

Knowing Gameforge this could be true. They have such a narrowminded way of thinking they can't see the big picture. Even if they don't pay real money for diamonds themselves, some of the biggest consumers of diamonds are F2P players. Specially endgame F2P. Diamond sellers sell diamonds for gold which they can then trade for items. If a big diamond buyer can't sell those diamonds they're not going to buy more... I'm sure only a small part of the big-spenders' diamonds are actually spent on themselves.

Quoted from "Heron"

ppl are spoiled


This, from the user who wanted GMs to come online each week to give away 100+ badge of the trial.

.....right.

He's still not wrong. Just makes him a prime example.

I think this event is the best idea in a while that was, sadly, executed wrong. It's actually an event. Doing stuff for rewards where the "doing stuff" is not equivalent to porting Lv45-50 alts all over the map for hours upon end for 2 weeks straight. Two glaring mistakes though: 1. Amount of PoMs is too low 2. It's too difficult for the majority of player. Fix these for next time, which hopefully will be soon as a compensation. Anyway, that's just my 2 cents.

I dislike this event, in the regards of poms, solely because it's only hard mode and normal mode, which hardly anyone can do that isn't geared to the nuts. Should of made it easy mode drops 1 each boss, normal 2, hard 3, etc, can pick whatever number you think was reasonable or 1 for all, who cares, BUT making this event so restricted and time consuming kind of blows.

Contrary to popular believe, the barely endgame player pool doesn't like being the only endgame player pool. We want it to be like it was in chapter 1 and 2 where as long as you could strat and do somewhat dps you were viable

Everyone makes good points here. Pass em along and make future events even better for everyone

Quoted from "mohammed1234"

I think gf did the right thing with this event if you don't care to run endgame than why worry about poms ?
Od isn't necessary or needed to do runs also if you not expecting to die doing runs i don't know what to tell you
Yeah the game is a bit more than most but ppl still buying other wise they would of lowered prices.
Also ppl who are quitting prob haven't invested into the game and from a business point of view the seller would only be interested in investors not freeloaders who have nothing to offer but space.
Also stop expecting too much ppl are spoiled

This coming from a guy who has already quit the server, advertised 3rd party servers and tried to sell for real life money. You have no ground for those statements.
I'm sure everyone saying they're losing interest are all just lying don't worry about it guys.

Sometimes you got to be harsh also i dont feel bp norm is that hard as illa says he solos first boss also if you cant do that dont worry about poms you can use bags stats like many ppl have suggested like many endgamers have said they only do the best stats because they can pom gear is becoming inferior each patch only thing that is useful is the stats but you dont have to use those.
Just play smart i bet i can spend 300 dollars on game and others can spend 1000 and ill still outgear them ppl spend money or useless stuff than qq about expenses

I'm one of the few that can also solo it with my alt army but I sell some cards for more than a pom sells for. Making way more atm off regular in game content - thanks loot event.

Quoted from "SHAYdynasty"

It was more of, "hey these events can be done by everyone, how much more do you (casual players) want. It was too make a point against the comment i quoted.

i personally like the contest, im just too lazy to do them XD

Then I guess I owe you an apology. I might be still a bit raw from all the yellingin this last week, both public and otherwise.

pro tipthough: since our events often get just one entry or two who win by default, I would Highly Recommend entering. The entries each have three winners, more than usual and better imo than rewards we have been allowed in the past. If nothing else, the agg skin could be sold...

Also, tart hasn't been ruled out yet and I can think of a few similarly valued.

Quoted from "Magío"

To be honest, midgame guilds not being able to clear Normal Mode of 2 level cap old instances was news to me. I bet the people at RW/GF weren't aware of that fact either lol. On the other hand, they have GM's that it looks like they just see as a decoration. Out of the loop on a lot of things. They should really use them. It was so simple to ask them whether they thought the event was a good idea or if it would be too easy/difficult >.<

ONE MORE TIME, LOUDER, FOR THE EMPLOYEES IN THE BACK ROW PLEASE.

Quoted from "Magío"

I'm sure the fact that it's only 3 or 4 guilds clearing endgame is due to the fact that everyone else doesn't bother.

Its not that everyone else doesn't bother, but assembling a new midgame group together is really difficult. I've been in around 5 different PvE groups since lv 80, and the first 4 all disbanded for one reason or another, most of them after 1-2 content releases. I've also been in 2 guilds that attempted to form a group for running content, both of which eventually disbanded as well. You guys probably have had a steady supply of players in your group or +20 and overtiered gear/weapons that can make up for it when there isn't, so it probably doesn't seem like a big deal, but it definitely is.

Also, even if you don't have the best stats, you still need +20 accessory jewels for DPS at some point in instance progression, otherwise you just won't be competitive, and spending $40 getting 2 rings and a neck to +19 or +20 is not something a lot of people are willing to do.

Quoted from "ruisen2000"

Quoted from "Magío"




I'm sure the fact that it's only 3 or 4 guilds clearing endgame is due to the fact that everyone else doesn't bother.


Its not that everyone else doesn't bother, but assembling a new midgame group together is really difficult. I've been in around 5 different PvE groups since lv 80, and the first 4 all disbanded for one reason or another, most of them after 1-2 content releases. I've also been in 2 guilds that attempted to form a group for running content, both of which eventually disbanded as well. You guys probably have had a steady supply of players in your group or +20 and overtiered gear/weapons that can make up for it when there isn't, so it probably doesn't seem like a big deal, but it definitely is.

Also, even if you don't have the best stats, you still need +20 accessory jewels for DPS at some point in instance progression, otherwise you just won't be competitive, and spending $40 getting 2 rings and a neck to +19 or +20 is not something a lot of people are willing to do.

40$ to +20 three things I wish. Try 100-200 dollars on accessories. Another 100-200 dollars on spinning the weapon wheel. Another 100-200 dollars to +20 chest/pants.

The biggest problem with this event is the amount of poms each boss drops. Getting a group together to do instances like BP norm isn't worth it when the boss is only going to drop one pom, so really anyone that can't solo it (anyone that's not a rogue or a warden) is basically screwed because it's not worth running as a group. I don't think it's "too hard" per se because I do feel like if you can't even get a group together to kill the first boss in BP norm (something rogues/wardens are able to solo), you probably don't really need poms. The real problem is the number of proofs, which is something that should have been so easy to fix after the first day the event was live. It really blows my mind that the uppers at GF don't see that.

SO.. to start the qq train....
2016= Worst Christmas event in 7 years i have been playing..... Cant wait for anniversary....
someone had to say it...

Quoted from "FarmerTom"

SO.. to start the qq train....
2016= Worst Christmas event in 7 years i have been playing..... Cant wait for anniversary....
someone had to say it...

for reference for the Christmas 2016 events, are you referring to the PoM event et cetera, or the events posted here:

Board Contest Festive House Decoration Contest!
Board Contest Holiday Dessert Contest
Board Contest Holiday Costume Contest!
In-Game Event Snowball Fight!

Those four aforementioned events we as GM's (not Gameforge) came up with and tried to host quickly, efficiently and tried to make it the best rewards we could. The Snowball fight on Mithras was a bit botched but I tried my best to salvage it and make the rewards worth it.
Please let us know for context as there were a lot of events for Christmas and New Years 2016 and we want to try to improve for next year.