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Friday, April 28th 2017, 11:03pm

Pretty sure everyone's issue here is at what point is it considered a 'loss'...

Using Jguy's example above...

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I) Same char level (short term):

(No bonus)
159 daily turnins would be required to get to level 83.
this is a gain of 8,382,798 TP.

...

(with bonus)
At this rate, only 64 dailies would get me to level 83.
This is a gain of 3,374,208TP.

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II) Long run:
(No bonus)
WITHOUT XP EVENT I WOULD BE AT 17,171,299 TP OVER 320 DAILIES

(with bonus)
WITH THE 250% XP EVENT I WOULD BE AT 17,451,878 TP OVER 320 DAILIES
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Results:
- Oh look, when the guy turned 83, he had less TP tp put into skills. AKA a TP 'loss' to some.
- In the long run, if one uses the same amount of dailies, there is no TP 'loss'.


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Saturday, April 29th 2017, 12:14am

The problem is when you have a lot of xp bonus you end up with a major problem with tp. You end up with a level 99 character with level 60 or 70 skills. This problem is considered as losing tp because as you get higher levels you earn less tp for every kill if you kill a mob a certain number of levels below your level you will get no tp at all so it becomes more difficult to level your skills.

The problem called losing tp means that if you get a lot xp you level quicker but since your level is higher you get less tp for every kill therefore you have lost tp. If you are below level 99 every time you have a xp bonus on a quest but not a tp bonus you level up quicker meaning you get less tp for killing mobs. Because the tp you get for a kill is based on your level and the level of the mob. The xp bonus means that you will get less tp for your kills because you have leveled up.

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Saturday, April 29th 2017, 12:17am

Yeah, it's not a loss of TP, it's a lack of TP during the building process.

If a low end toon is doing quests gaining 25k exp and 2.5k TP then along comes an event and suddenly it's 50k/75k exp and 2.5k TP per quest then there's going to be a lack of TP greater than the usual lack of TP to upgrade skills. That toon's gonna level up more quickly and not have the TP to dump into the skills to back it up. At that point farming TP just doesn't feel like it makes up the difference.

It's a problem that solves itself down the line, but the only real immediate fix is to lay on the TP charms.
('Wishing I'd saved a 100k or 2 from the frog festival but I'd had no plans to make a new toon at that time, lol. Hindsight's always perfect.)

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Saturday, April 29th 2017, 12:51am

Yes, you get it....the normal person is not buying daily resets, he is just questing. In the end, he gets the same amount of TP for those quests, but he is at a higher level. So for his level, he has, while technically not lost any TP, has a lack of TP appropriate for his level. Eventually "in the long run" he can make this up (if he ever gets to cap), but until then, he will be below the 1:10 ratio of TP:EXP. If he, like the OP skips the event, then he will not suffer this lack. He will be at a lower level, but will have the "appropriate" amount of TP (appropriate is really 'not enough', but w/e).
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Saturday, April 29th 2017, 2:37am

Lol I'm sad this had to be explained for the trolls :*(

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Saturday, April 29th 2017, 4:53am

You guys were right, I am starting to lose TP now! I won't be able to max out "Joint Blow" on Scout. Only choice left now is to clean my garage I guess.

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Sunday, April 30th 2017, 5:33pm

If you want tp go farm some more gd tp.
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Monday, May 1st 2017, 5:47pm

Like the guys were saying earlier:

TP is easily farmed, TP never stops being earned.

At the end of the day, there are plenty of places where you can kill lots of mobs that respawn quickly -- we call it grinding.

In other games, that was the only method to raise levels & I think players used to the easy leveling from questing forget that in this game. ... well other than 55-71 infernal gardens >.< eye bleeds

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Monday, May 1st 2017, 8:52pm

Quoted from "ycavan"

Like the guys were saying earlier:

TP is easily farmed, TP never stops being earned.

At the end of the day, there are plenty of places where you can kill lots of mobs that respawn quickly -- we call it grinding.

In other games, that was the only method to raise levels & I think players used to the easy leveling from questing forget that in this game. ... well other than 55-71 infernal gardens >.< eye bleeds


You cannot "farm" TP until you get to level cap (and now Mo will say you are losing EXP). You can kill butterflies until your eyes bleed but you will still be getting TP at a 1:10 ratio to EXP. Granted, during the "event" that ratio is improved, but consider the ratio of a mob kill to that of a quest. The OP did not want to quest during the event because of the unfavorable ratio. He can still go out and kill mobs, but if he turns in one quest, even a daily, that is all shot to hell because the worth of a quest is 10000 x that of a mob. What you are proposing is a "grind" to make up for a deficiency that you won't even admit exists.

Y'all forget, not everyone is rushing to cap.
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Monday, May 1st 2017, 9:02pm

You guys are ridiculous I didn't actually mean losing tp I mean you will not have the tp you should have at that lvl therefore in a sense u are losing tp you guys are confusing ppl not making sense and contradicting yall self.
Also alot of ppl do rush to max and since they do they have to buy a bunch of resets due to the lack of tp or give up exp from the quest they have left

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Monday, May 1st 2017, 10:31pm

What he is trying to say is the xp events cause to level too soon, The result is now you have to grind for tp. The problem is now you are a much higher level. Now instead of getting 10k tp for killing a mob you now get 1 or 2 k so you have to grind 5 to 10 times as long to get the same amount of tp, In addition to that the cost of leveling a high level skill to match your toon level gets far too expensive. So instead of grinding to get the tp for a level 60 toon you are grinding to get tp for a level 80 toon which has every skill at level 50 or less.

You end up with hundreds of millions of tp needed to even get near your toon level with the skills. Now you are earning tp at the lowest level possible because your toon is such high a level. So weeks or months of grinding will not even bring your skills up to your toon level. That is the lost tp result of xp events.

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Monday, May 1st 2017, 11:41pm

Don't let the total amount of TP your character has hold you back. TP only allows you to level your class skills in game, but the skill that really matters, the skill that really counts...is your skill as a player. Believe in yourself and show the world your determination...as a player who had his/her TP cut in half. That is all...
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Tuesday, May 2nd 2017, 12:03am

LOL.....become a Wallet/Warrior and buy your damn TP.
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Thursday, May 4th 2017, 11:01pm

this thread again?

heh
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Friday, May 5th 2017, 12:32am

On one side of the room, they are arguing with the door. On the other side, they are arguing with the window. It gets pretty noisy, but in the end each side goes home thinking they have won.
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Saturday, May 6th 2017, 11:45pm

Quoted from "Auros"

On one side of the room, they are arguing with the door. On the other side, they are arguing with the window. It gets pretty noisy, but in the end each side goes home thinking they have won.
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