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What are the devs smoking that the lvl 50 D/S elite Spring Flower Eulogy even made it live into game from beta? Eulogy is correct, it has killed Camellia Flower Elite. I am 2 months into playingthis game, finally get my scout class on my 57 druid to 50, I get my 50 D/S elite try it out and i see that my camellia flower is now healing (fulldruid heals buffs)1.7k per sec=15k for 8secs as opposed to pre lvl 50 elite of healing (concentration of prayer only)3.8k+ per sec=26.6k for 7secs. Guild mates decide after i get my 50elite to remember that the elite skill has nerfed the Camilla Flower elite since it went live from beta. Not their fault really , LOL, considering this has existed in the game for over a year.. a year.. I mean c'mon guys?? A year???? Since the inception of this elite skill, there have been multitudes of updates and a new chapeter created and installed.. and this still exists in this game??
I was told the elite was broken, i notice it isnt broken, it is doing exacting what the descriton says it does to the Camellia Flower elite. It Caps how much you can heal your target. Caps?? a lvl 50elite capping the extent that a lvl15 elite can heal... this is not an enhancement, but a nerf..

Description of the lvl 50 elite for D/S:
Spring Flower Eulogy:
"Lengthens effect of Camelia Flower by 1 sec and has a chance of restoring 1 point of Nature's Power to you. When Camellia Flower ends it will additonally restore hit points"

Camellia Flower(after being nerfed by Spring Flower Eulogy):
"Restores xxx hitpoints to your target per second. Can be stacked 3 times for 7.0seconds. When the effect ends it will restore 1% hitpoints to the target and has a chance of restoring 1 point of Nature's Power to you.(The Spring Flower Effect can be stacked up to a maximum of 5.0% hit points to be restored to the friendly target)"

Okies there it is, maximum of 5.0% hit points to be restored to the freindly target. A lvl 50 elite skill caps and nerfs another elite skill. It does just that. My Camellia Flowers now HoTs pre lvl 55 gear..

Really.. a year, this has been like this??? C'mon.. Swag do not even tell me to submit a ticket in game.. I am very sure in the last year this has benn live plenty of tickets have been submitted.. a year??? looks back at top stickied post.. hmm what needs to be improved upon and fixed after the introduction of Chapter IV.. hmm how about pre Chapter IV.
This game has been great, evgen yesterday ran into some RL friends who use to play Everquest with me, I highly recommended this game to them. This issue needs to be a hot fix, period. A year???? My Camellia Flower elite has been nerfed by this lvl 50 elite of at least 27+K in healing points per use.

My Druid is moderately statted on her 55 gear, and is now using a HoT that heals like I am back on pre 55 gear. Greatly affects how I play my game now versus say lol this morning?? Wouldnt hurt my feelings if this elite was removed, my toon as I am sure others' toons that have fallen victim to this nerf you call and elite skill, would gladly love to find a way to unlearn it..
So yes, I think after a year since it somehow got out of beta (again what were/are they smoking?), time to at least remove this elite skill from the game, I do not care if it takes twice as long for a replacement Elite skill to happen. This Elite skill is not broken, it is working as it says in the description of The Spring Flower Eulogy effects on Camellia flower..

Elite skills are suppose to enhance not nerf, a year.. this has been sitting in game unattended to, think a hot fix is due, eh?

Quoted from "eisdrachen;446536"

the elite is fine yes it is costly but it is also useful if you're depending on it you very well are healing wrong

Are you even on the same page? um "I am healing wrong"?LOL Dude read again and learn to comprehend. The lvl 50 Elite has nerfed my Camellia flower elite. When you aquire the lvl 50 elite Spring Flower Eulogy it automatically attaches to Camellia flower. Poof that is it. My Camellia Flower is now healing at least 15k less per use of it now, than it was say yesterday morning. I am healing wrong.. ok what are you smoking.

Yes Springflower Eulogy is working as it is stated to work, it caps how much your camellia flower heals your target. Before Taking on that elite, my Camellia flower had no caps. Period.. Elite skills are suppose to enhance.. not cap/nerf your other skills. I am now finding out there are a lot of druids in game that do not have this elite for this reason. So No, it isnt fine.
Yes, hotfix is needed. A year.. it has been like this.

Did you see anywhere in my post where i complained about cost? Has nothing to do with mana cost.. omg lol that is nothing. It has totally nerfed per sec my camellia flower heals almost by 50% it has dropped.. mana cost? pfft.... it hardly makes a dent in my mana, Didnt before springflower Eulogy and doesnt now. Because I do know how to be a healing class.

Quoted from "ghostwolf82;446620"

That's why you must research before making any lasting decisions in this game. Also a good rule to follow in real life as well. For future reference, just make sure to use the link in my sig often.

Ok and what are you smoking? Spring Flower Eulogy is suppose to be an elite skill.. If RoM decides to add elite skills past lvl 50 you will need to get your lvl 50 elite. Research and elite skill? Ican see armor and gear quests ect. But research an elite skill that is suppose to enhance your class? Sorry but what you said is about as junk as the Spring Flower Eulogy elite, it should have never made it out of beta. Period. I also do not believe you researched every skill/talent you have taken on for your toon(s). Nor everything you have done with your toon(s). Why? because what i just experienced with taking my lvl 50 elite, should have never happened. If the developers of this game are to have any caliber of intelligence.

try reading the thread and comprehending. No one said chap IV did anything to this elite.. please if you want to point something out that is even relevant, point out where in anything i have said that pointed to Chap IV having to do with this?? . If you read, this elite has been like this since it came out of beta.. over a year, yes a year worth of tickets submitted to RoM about this effed up Elite. Um put in someones blah blah thread?People have been submitting in game tickets and making posts of this in forum , you have numerous places telling you how this spring flower eulogy elite junks and effs up the camelia flower elite for over a year, but if it gets put in Swag's little thread (that already looks like junk) it will be taken care of? hmm nope because i seen where this elite has been posted quite a few times. You know this crap of an elite has been out over a year ago. Since then RoM has issued many updates and a new chapter to the game, but has yet has not had the time to correct a eff up they did in letting the 50 D/S elite go live out of beta. The only Druids in game that have this hack of an elite the Spring Flower Eulogy D/S elite are those like me who did not know that the RoM developers released a hack of the Camellia Flower elite in the form of druid lvl 50 elite and others who really do not know how to heal.

Hmm chasm of closed threads.... which is probably why this hack of an elite skill is still sitting in game.. attitudes just like that. ONE YEAR, over ONE YEAR the D/S hack "elite skill has sat in the game. ONE YEAR. Spring Flower Eulogy is the perfect name for it, it hacked and killed the Camellia Flower elite.

Now a druid fix.. from quite a few threads in these forums I read where this was to be fixed back in February, but never happened. Thing is the Spring Flower Eulogy doesn't need a fix. It is doing as it was created to. TO cap/nerf the hitpoints the camellia flower restores to it target. Camellia Flower doesn't have a cap, but when the Spring Flower Eulogy is aquired, it now does. I know, my druid is now officially hacked. My point is, the lvl 50 D/S elite has to be removed from the game.

Quoted from "midknight129;446827"

While you're correct in that the D/S lvl 50 elite is borked, I think you misunderstand exactly how it is borked. The 5% bit would refer to that "extra" healing that pops in at the end of the effect. The real reason it heals less than it did is the way mDam factors into the healing formula. You get your mDam divided over the total number of ticks in a HoT so whereas before, it was divided over 6 ticks, after the elite the same mDam is divided over 7 ticks.

Actually the restored 5% you are talking about after the HoT's duration ends, is actually .5% in game. Pre-aquiring Spring Flower Eulogy the hp restored at the end of the duration of Camellia Flower was 1%.

I do pay attention to what my character does, always have since I first started playing Everquest back in 2000. Now that my toon has aquired Spring Flower Eulogy ( not even calling it an elite) my camellia flower heals 50%+ LESS than it did before I aquired Spring Flower Eulogy. I have been "doing the math" for over a decade on every character iI created , in every game I have played.

Quoted from "ragnarok2010;447194"

ok first of all the skill isnt really all that broken. yes i do agree that it doesnt figure in the way it should. yes the mana cost is very high. yes they should have fixed it a long time ago.

However...

its not so much that the skill was broken, but more that they changed the dynamic of the heal. in my experience (i am a 67/65 d/s btw) in the heat of a battle when i am healing a party(be it solo or duo with a priest) i am only stackin CF 1-2 times, and only 2 times on a tank if the boss is really hitting them hard. usually i throw Blossom and maybe a recover if they need heals, and they are almost always kept hotted with Healing arrows.

the reason to only stack CF 1 times is cause of the burst heal at the end.

so do i agree with you that the skill needs to be alterd? the answer is yes

do i agree with you that it is that bad that it is unusuable or that it requires a lot of QQ or raging to get it fixed immediatly. that answer is no

Everything is usuable..but yes it is that bad when the healing done by my camellia Flower has dropped by over 50% than it did before my toon aquired Spring Flower Eulogy. So yes it is that bad. That really, really affects how I can heal other players in some nasty instances and siege.

When i first posted just this thread, I did not think throwing some rage in this or QQing as you call it (where I am QQing in my post here, havent a clue, but if you call it QQing then , um qhat is wrong with QQing?) was needed.
But, after listening to people in game telling me I had to hammer the forums about this issue to get any attention to it, both in and out of my guild. Plus, looking in on this a day after i had posted it and seeling only 5 views. I decided to yep take this post and put it also up in general and wham.. it got the attention. So yes it seems "raging" and QQing are definitely needed especially when an issue such as this has been IGNORED for over a year.. a year.. I mean c'mon..a year.

Quoted from "Calientecarl;447825"

Im not D/s nor have i played one. but doesnt the fact that it now stacks 3 times make up for the fact that the number of hp it heals per tick has been decreased? or am i not understanding the description?

Um, it has always stacked, even if this were not true, explain the logic of how it is logical to create a lvl 50 elite skill that cuts in half (at least) the healing points a lvl 15 elite skill puts forth? You can't can you? That is called a nerf not an enhancement.