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Thursday, July 28th 2011, 3:16am

Quoted from "Xxana;447851"

Everything is usuable..but yes it is that bad when the healing done by my camellia Flower has dropped by over 50% than it did before my toon aquired Spring Flower Eulogy. So yes it is that bad. That really, really affects how I can heal other players in some nasty instances and siege.

When i first posted just this thread, I did not think throwing some rage in this or QQing as you call it (where I am QQing in my post here, havent a clue, but if you call it QQing then , um qhat is wrong with QQing?) was needed.
But, after listening to people in game telling me I had to hammer the forums about this issue to get any attention to it, both in and out of my guild. Plus, looking in on this a day after i had posted it and seeling only 5 views. I decided to yep take this post and put it also up in general and wham.. it got the attention. So yes it seems "raging" and QQing are definitely needed especially when an issue such as this has been IGNORED for over a year.. a year.. I mean c'mon..a year.:eek:


Oh. My. Goodness. A whole year you say?? That must be TERRIBLE! Sarcasm aside, have you not looked at the warden class? One skill (a skill that if you were intelligent enough to look up wouldn't have "broke" anything) nerfs another one of your skills and its the end of the freaking world. This is rom, its full of mistakes and that's the way it will always be. If this is causing that big of a heartache to you, then just quit the game all together.

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Thursday, July 28th 2011, 9:06pm

I'd like to remind everyone here that...wait for it...the Druid class sills haven't yet been addressed for balance by RW. Perhaps they'll redo the conflict between those two skills. Don't ask me about it--I'm usually the last person to find out things around here. :(

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Friday, July 29th 2011, 3:36am

Quoted from "ghostwolf82;446676"

You show your arse with these statements. That is all I will respond with, for anyone who knows me on these forums knows I know this game about as good as someone can know it. I will not argue with you further, you will just drag me down to your level and beat me with experience.


No he's not, he has a legitimate reason why there is an issue and you keep shoving the reason why it is his problem. It is NOT his problem, it is a skill imbalance that needs to be fixed by RW.

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Friday, July 29th 2011, 3:52am

Quoted from "nhat;448696"

No he's not, he has a legitimate reason why there is an issue and you keep shoving the reason why it is his problem. It is NOT his problem, it is a skill imbalance that needs to be fixed by RW.

Yes, s/he is. Yes, there is a problem with the elite, no one has disputed that. Yes, it is a crappy problem, but as Ghostwolf explained its not the actual problem that the OP referred to. The problem is that information was there for the taking and because s/he did not take the time to do a little research, s/he has asked everyone, including FA/RW what their smoking and has tried their best to belittle every person that has responded.

And please respond to the right issue. It is not an imbalance, it is a broken elite. There are threads on the forums that refer to that elite, they are referred to in Xerises guides and even romwikis listing of the elites say do not take this elite. You do not come on the forums and have a hissy fit because you messed up and didnt research your toon thoroughly enough and call other members of the forums names when they try to explain to you what the problem is and what you could have done to prevent it.

As a side note, good to see you back Ghost, missed ya.
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Friday, July 29th 2011, 3:59am

Quoted from "spitz6860;447974"

the problem with that is after you get lvl50 elite your camila flower gets a 3% mana cost added to it. so you can't really spam that anymore. if you put 3 stacks on one person that's 10% of your mana gone. and yeah, what xxana said were also true. and i understand where he's coming from, now if he wants to unlearn that elite skill he would have to drop his scout side and retake it, level it, do all those elite skill stuff, and put tp into his skills again, i think anyone would be pissed.


Once you take the elites they are always there. Even if you used a fruit of forgetting and redid the class, you would have your elites back as you progress. So unless you want to drop scout and only take it to 49 when you hit 50/50 the elite will be there again.
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Friday, July 29th 2011, 2:33pm

Quoted from "RefluxAngel;448321"

Oh. My. Goodness. A whole year you say?? That must be TERRIBLE! Sarcasm aside, have you not looked at the warden class? One skill (a skill that if you were intelligent enough to look up wouldn't have "broke" anything) nerfs another one of your skills and its the end of the freaking world. This is rom, its full of mistakes and that's the way it will always be. If this is causing that big of a heartache to you, then just quit the game all together.

Sincerely,
Aero


Yes,I do have a warden class. As far as looking up the skill? I know I posted on that question before. I did justto look upi the name though. Read the description you say? Well after doing that for my first couple of elites, and getting a headache from trying to get through the typos, figured * shrug* , site was not that well updated plus you must have the prior elite before getting another elite, so eh they are basically free in heffner camp. So I would see what they do when i got them:) End of the world? nope :) but it sure helped attention to this matter, eh? Sounds like you came in here to whine about the warden class, that class has its own section:) This is for druids :) Btw they did not create an elite that screws up the warden class :) But the plight of the warden class has been well covered by others. The druid's 50 elite Spring Flower Eulogy has not. Untill now:) *bows*. Your last comment? pfft it did not take you that much intelligence to come up with that trollrage LOL, yes you are raging yourself like what I posted was te end of the world to you:)

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Friday, July 29th 2011, 3:03pm

Quoted from "wolfstorm000;448699"

Yes, s/he is. Yes, there is a problem with the elite, no one has disputed that. Yes, it is a crappy problem, but as Ghostwolf explained its not the actual problem that the OP referred to. The problem is that information was there for the taking and because s/he did not take the time to do a little research, s/he has asked everyone, including FA/RW what their smoking and has tried their best to belittle every person that has responded.

And please respond to the right issue. It is not an imbalance, it is a broken elite. There are threads on the forums that refer to that elite, they are referred to in Xerises guides and even romwikis listing of the elites say do not take this elite. You do not come on the forums and have a hissy fit because you messed up and didnt research your toon thoroughly enough and call other members of the forums names when they try to explain to you what the problem is and what you could have done to prevent it.

As a side note, good to see you back Ghost, missed ya.


For one dude, you were the first to call anyone names, period. Second, I didn't start this game to muddle through all the posts here. You like to spend most of your day on these forums, I do not. I am not that anal. Third, like I have said before and you fail on comprehension bigtime, I have looked up my elietes, but after trying to sift through the many typos in the prior elites I just took down the lvl and name of my 50. This was done also as i was taking down the names of my 40 and 45 elites as I had leveled up my scout during 2x xp:) Do I research? yes:) BUt my point is and will always be how this was even let out of beta:) Never a whine or complain about mana cost:) You see I researched, grins and I have my mana to where this elite does a mere dent in it:)

Now, as far as belittling, evry reply to this thread that you have done has been belittling. Period. Have I belittled everyone that has posted on this thread? Nope:) Just those like you that get on here to not eleviate anything, but to troll with your arrogance. Looking where you can find somewhere to throw in some of your analness.

A little time to research these forums... hmm these forums are so junked up with out of date threads, wonder if they are kept in these forums, so when someone does necro them you all have a reason to get anal on them and jump on them about it?

What you say? You say the GMs do not have the time to go through all these threads and delete the out of date one?? Really?? well I do not have the time either to sift throughthem either to do research on something that shouldn't have been put through beta to begin with.

Your replies to this thread hold no merit at all to the anything I have said on here. Period.

Mana cost?? I see no huge mana cost on my toon LOL nothing to complain about there for me. Why? because I did enough research and my over the decade experience in MMorpgs like this has my mana pool in awesome shape:)


You also say threads like this pretty much get banned or ignored? Well you didn't ignore it did you troll? :)

Only thing I asked an explanation for , was how this even got into game. I asked for some to please explain the logic behind putting an elite in game that nerfs the eff out of another elite. You do not have the answer, nor even tried to have an answer. Again, you either totally fail at comprehension or you just came in here to show your analness and troll.

To quote your arrogant siggy "Sarcasm is the shield behind which I hide my contempt for the stupid thing you just said. ". My posts are more guilty of dripping with sarcasm than with rage LOL. You are anal enough to think you only wield the command of sarcasm and others do not??? Again you are just an anal troll :)

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Friday, July 29th 2011, 3:24pm

Quoted from "ragnarok2010;448033"

was not saying you were raging or QQin but a thread with this topic comes up a lot in which ppl do so it was more a general statement then directed at you.

and yes it has been ignored for over a year, i completly agree with you there. but the devs have been doing their jobs as of late and making the classes more balanced so i do have faith that they will get this problem resolved for us :D


Well ty ragnarok:) IMO, the Spring Flower Eulogy just needs to be removed. The Camellia Flower elite is leet enough. Any enhancement on it, I think, would create an imbalance. Now I wouldnt mind for a 50 elite something that increased casting speeds or something that affected the movement speed of a mob.

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Friday, July 29th 2011, 5:33pm

http://www.theromwiki.com/Druid_Elite_Skills


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Lengthens Camellia Flower effect by 1 second and may restore 1 point of Nature's Power to you. When Camellia Flower effect ends, it will also restore HP. Also adds a +3% mana cost per usage. (This elite weakens the elite, and turns it into a junky move, advice, DO NOT GET THIS ELITE.)


http://forum.us.runesofmagic.com/showthr…d%2Fscout+elite

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Friday, July 29th 2011, 7:16pm

Quoted from "wolfstorm000;448826"



since when is it the player's responsibility to assume that some random things in a game is broken and that he/she needs to check a random website before doing anything?

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Friday, July 29th 2011, 7:28pm

Quoted from "spitz6860;448845"

since when is it the player's responsibility to assume that some random things in a game is broken and that he/she needs to check a random website before doing anything?


Since it became known that things can be broken which was about open beta, for any MMO out there. And in RoM there are countless things that are broken. You never make a decision that is permanent without checking first and it has been that way in every MMO that Ive ever played in the past 15 years or so of playing MMOs. And I would not call the official RoM Wiki as a random website since they get their data from players who have been there and done that. And I certainly dont call the ROM forums a random website, so which one are you referring to? And you know what happens when you dont check things out first? You get threads like this. A completely polarized rant over one person making the mistake no experienced or even inexperienced MMOer should make.

So instead of taking the advice s/he was given and learning something from his/her mistake, s/he has decided to continue on the rant and flaming other forum members. The elite has been useless since it was introduced to the game. More then one thread has been done on it and more then one support ticket has been sent in on it. Druids balancing is coming, like Kalvan said, maybe it will fix it, maybe it wont. Until then, enough.
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Friday, July 29th 2011, 7:53pm

Quoted from "Xxana;448799"

For one dude, you were the first to call anyone names, period.

Show me one spot I called anyone names.

You see I researched, grins and I have my mana to where this elite does a mere dent in it:)

My D/S has 42k mps with part of his gear gone. Guess what? Its a % of total mana. Doesnt matter one bit what mana you have. 3 casts is 9% so would cost me 4k? mana. Why in the world would I want to do that?

Now, as far as belittling, evry reply to this thread that you have done has been belittling. Period. Have I belittled everyone that has posted on this thread? Nope:) Just those like you that get on here to not eleviate anything, but to troll with your arrogance. Looking where you can find somewhere to throw in some of your analness.

Whos being anal? Oh, I forgot. Trying to give you good advice on how to research, which is what Ghostwolf tried to do before you trolled him, was being anal.

A little time to research these forums... hmm these forums are so junked up with out of date threads, wonder if they are kept in these forums, so when someone does necro them you all have a reason to get anal on them and jump on them about it?

Took me less then 5 minutes to find the thread I linked in my other reply. Nice research skills.

What you say? You say the GMs do not have the time to go through all these threads and delete the out of date one?? Really?? well I do not have the time either to sift throughthem either to do research on something that shouldn't have been put through beta to begin with.

Who said anything about the GMs? And why would you remove old threads that contain a considerable amount of information that was and very well maybe still relevant? And again, in the considerable amount of time it took you to make 2 threads about the same topic, which, by the way is against forums rules, and reply to most everyone who posted and ask them what their smoking and did they bother to read what you wrote you would have been able to find the information you needed.

Your replies to this thread hold no merit at all to the anything I have said on here. Period.

My replies made perfect sense, unlike that sentence.

Mana cost?? I see no huge mana cost on my toon LOL nothing to complain about there for me. Why? because I did enough research and my over the decade experience in MMorpgs like this has my mana pool in awesome shape:)

Again, you literally have no clue the difference between a base cost skill and a % based skill. The total amount of mana expended is the same for one and the total amount of mana expended is different for every toon for the other. If you cast CF with the elite 30 times you will be out of mana... period. So trying to brag about how much mana you have means absolutely nothing.


You also say threads like this pretty much get banned or ignored? Well you didn't ignore it did you troll? :)

Nope. But it did get your other thread closed... didnt it?
Only thing I asked an explanation for , was how this even got into game. I asked for some to please explain the logic behind putting an elite in game that nerfs the eff out of another elite. You do not have the answer, nor even tried to have an answer. Again, you either totally fail at comprehension or you just came in here to show your analness and troll.

Because there is one answer and you said it in your first post. The people that wrote the skill messed it up. That was the answer all along and you kept expecting everyone else to answer what you already knew.
To quote your arrogant siggy "Sarcasm is the shield behind which I hide my contempt for the stupid thing you just said. ". My posts are more guilty of dripping with sarcasm than with rage LOL. You are anal enough to think you only wield the command of sarcasm and others do not??? Again you are just an anal troll :)

You have no clue what a true troll is. I have yet to try to troll you yet you have done an excellent job of trolling yourself. You asked why no one told you not to take the elite. The information was there, you ignored it. You asked why the skill made it in the game. You already knew the answer but ignored it. You asked why the skill made it out of beta. Druids and wardens werent around in beta. Congratulations on showing you know nothing about this game.



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Friday, July 29th 2011, 10:03pm

This. Has. Gone. On. More. Than. Enough.

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