Teach me how to not suck (level 55+ gear questions

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Wednesday, September 14th 2011, 5:44pm

Okay, so I've reached level 51 on my knight (and 40 warrior) and from what I read on these forums and hear from people in game, It's time for me to seriously start gearing up.

From what I've heard, the real gearing up starts at around level 55. Although I'm only 51, I figured now would be the time to start looking for my level 55 gear. That way I have ample time to find what I need and to stat/tier/plus my stuff. That way, as soon as I hit the appropriate levels, I can immediately swap on some good gear.

So far I have (was given to me as a gift):

I'm assuming that for my level 55 shoulder gear, I'm going to want the last piece of the Knight's Falcon Armor that I don't have yet?

Would it be worth it to tier/stat/plus this gear? From what I understand, This gear will last me quite a while. The guy who gave it to me said 62 or something like that. And I also understand that these levels take a while, meaning 55~60-something is going to be a while. In that case, I was thinking I should boost it as much as possible since I'll have it for so long.

What kind of stats should I be looking for? From what I've read, I'm thinking yellow stats with stamina and strength? Other than AH, are there any other ways to find gear with just one yellow stat that I can use? Is there anything that drops them that I can farm on my own as level 51 k/w with a level 51 p/m with me?

Is there an upcoming sword I should be looking forward to buying or obtaining somehow? What about rings, legs, earrings, capes, and shields?

In other games, it was easier for me to find the gear I wanted just by looking at stats. In this game, it's not quite so simple because I can add stats to the gear after buying it. For this reason, I'm not quite so sure how to choose gear. Thus far, I've been wearing gear obtained from quests and not upgrading them or anything. Now I'm at the point where I want to get serious about gear but I'm not too sure how to choose it. What exactly should I be looking for to help me determine the pros and cons of the gear choices available to me?

One of the guides here mentions a 4:2 ratio of stamina and strength for gear. By this, does he mean for each 4 points of strength I should have two points of stamina, or does he mean that when I stat my gear, I should find four stamina stats for each strength stat? Are these the only two stats I should focus on? Should I be concerned about attack or defense?

I haven't yet used any food so far. I don't know why, I just haven't. I've looked at foods and I see things that increase all different types of attributes. I figured that while leveling/questing, I should aim to increase my offense since I'm duoing with a priest. Should I get food that increases my attack or food that increases physical damage? What about instances; should I get something for defense or should I get something for offense?

Also, am I expected to stock up on potions too (for instances and stuff)?

As for talent points, I've read through the guides and I see a variety of advice. I'm trying to follow them as best as I can. Here's my current skill setup.

Holy Strike+51 (max)
Punishment+30
Shield of Atonement+5
Enchanced Armor+50 (max)
Defense Technique+51 (max)
Resillience+50 (max)

Slash+30

Mana Return+30
Whirlwind Shield+51 (max)
Resolution+5
Threaten+40
Shield Mastery+50 (max)
Hatred Strike+50 (max)

And I have about 200k tp that I'm just sitting on right now. Any critique/criticism/advice/insults/personal attacks/"yo mama" jokes are welcome.

I apologize if these questions are dumb or if I've asked something already answered by one of the stickies. I have read through the stickies, so if I'm asking about something mentioned, I probably just want clarification or something.

If there's any other advice or tips you wish to give, feel free to say it even if I didn't ask a question about it. I appreciate any help or criticisms given.

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sharinganuser

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Wednesday, September 14th 2011, 6:47pm

i'll answer in detail when i get home in roughly 15-20 minutes. See ya then!

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Dalkath

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Wednesday, September 14th 2011, 6:51pm

I am working on a K/W myself. Currently only 40/20 but very interested in reading what sharinganuser has to say and anyone else that replies to this.

I do have to say OP you have some pretty nice friends to give you armor like that. I have been looking in the AH at armor and I just hang my head seeing the prices of it

lol

Oh well what can you do.

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Tackninja

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Wednesday, September 14th 2011, 9:54pm

+1 to someone giving advice to a fellow K/W. I myself am 36/30 and I need some help with TP's and gear. I look forward to hearing more up to date advice.

Also, IMO, most of the stickies on the forums should be deleted because they are so out of date that much of the info doesn't fit current game mechanics.

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TheMann64

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Wednesday, September 14th 2011, 10:04pm

It really depends on what you want to do with your knight at this and the next few levels, and what kind of resources you have at your disposal. If you can afford the pure fusion stones (25 per diamond if you buy the small puri pack on sale right now), then I'd say try and get your hands on some crimson stats and pure stat as much as you can. Unfortunately for knights, there isn't a full set of "desireable" crimson stats, so you can either go with some less-then-desireable ones (like stam/mp) or you can partially stat, get yourself into memento farming, and then get some castle/bunker stats.

If you don't have a ton of diamonds to spend, and if you're not looking at getting into tanking instances just yet, then you will probably want to get your hands on some level 60+ plate gear before you get serious about pure statting. In the mean time, you can dirty stat gear. I'm not sure if dirty statting with Crimson's will be enough to get you into DoD or not, but it would be worth looking into.

If you're looking for 60+ plate gear, I'd suggest taking a serious look at the Crimson plate gear. It doesn't have a set bonus, but the pdef values are nice, and best of all, they're accessible without selling a kidney on the black market or looking for a group that will drag you through the most endgame of endgame instances. Of course, you can't wear the crimson stat gear until you're 67....

Beyond knight falcon, I can't tell you what the best way to go is. I currently have the same three pieces you have plus the beastman shoulders, all statted. I have been trying for OD Crimson plate gear but haven't had any luck yes. Besides, I've semi-retired my knight because we have a much more serious tank in our guild now

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Good luck!

edit: also keep in mind that, as a k/w, you can swap to w/k and still use your plate gear, so getting some str stats on your gear will not be a bad thing. I love tanking as a w/k... so much more enjoyable than a k/w imo. That +90% weapon damage plus increased pAtk coupled with bonus aggro on Holy Strike makes holding aggro against our strong rogues a breeze (no Hatred rune required)

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Datboy

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Wednesday, September 14th 2011, 10:22pm

I have a ton of puris at the moment since they were on sale, so that that wont be an issue. Thanks for the advice.

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superman555

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Thursday, September 15th 2011, 5:36am

level to 67 before gearing

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beamyja

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Thursday, September 15th 2011, 10:17am

Quoted from "superman555;463926"

level to 67 before gearing )

lol totally agree! its so easy to get up to 67 (by doing quests and dailies in Xaviera). and by the time u get up there the prices of lvl 67 stuff would have dropped abit.

but you miss out on the fun of running instances though, so theres a pros and cons.

and ... about learning how to tank, well thats debatable to when you should learn how to keep agro and things like that, but since you are just leveling you dont need to worry about that just yet. but once you get to 67, and starting to stat up (with crimsons stats) you could be easily tanking DL/ZS/DOD just to get the hang of tanking, before venturing into WA/RT/KT where it gets a little more complicated (imo anyway, i dont tank but i've heard that theres more to do as a tank in the later instances).

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beamyja

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Thursday, September 15th 2011, 10:29am

and as for DOD mento farming, you only need about 25kpdef and 30k hp. with a healer of course.

I play a druid/scout and i have no problem soloing madman with that range of defence/hp. (it takes a long time, but the point is it is doable at the current def/hp). this means that dirty statting crimson stats in those 3 pieces (t4) with a blood barrier (t5 gives about 11k pdef if i recall) will be sufficient

and with the current dpses out there, dod boss fight goes on for like 30 seconds. thats about 4mentos/1min (it includes going in and out of the isntance and stuff like that) (equates to about 2 and a half hour for 1 bunker stat)

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TheMann64

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Thursday, September 15th 2011, 6:52pm

If you want to learn tanking, dirty stat some gear and go run clops with players that aren't super OP. Clops, KS, HotO... when you're not geared to the teeth, these are very fun instances imo... ah nostalgia...

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squirrlee

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Friday, September 16th 2011, 2:24am

Quoted from "beamyja;463952"

lol totally agree! its so easy to get up to 67 (by doing quests and dailies in Xaviera). and by the time u get up there the prices of lvl 67 stuff would have dropped abit.

but you miss out on the fun of running instances though, so theres a pros and cons.

and ... about learning how to tank, well thats debatable to when you should learn how to keep agro and things like that, but since you are just leveling you dont need to worry about that just yet. but once you get to 67, and starting to stat up (with crimsons stats) you could be easily tanking DL/ZS/DOD just to get the hang of tanking, before venturing into WA/RT/KT where it gets a little more complicated (imo anyway, i dont tank but i've heard that theres more to do as a tank in the later instances).

Ummm...how is this new "tank" going to get said gear? So you want a new tank geared up for level 67 that has never ran an instance? When I say ran an instance, I mean went as the Tank for the party and not escorted by a couple high levels. I have seen several posts where some people QQ about double exp and how it makes high levels with NO actual instance experience. So I see here a new player being told to wait for level 67 and gear up.

I think this player needs to get some level 55 gear stat it with DoD stats and try running in there to understand what aggro holding is in RoM. I donno how this new player is going to get any gear without running HoS, ZS and HoDL. Even the prices on those items in the AH are crazy not to mention the level 67 Plate items. This new player needs to find out how to stat his/her toon and how to play it.

You are correct it is easy to get to 67 on a mian class and not too bad to get the second class up to 50-60. But you still have to have some gear and stats in order to even think about getting RT and above stats. Yes....you can get Crimson stats from the mini games but that is still not enough. Gathering 560 mentos for Bunker stats is going to take some time and you may not get a good stat and end up with a few that are hardy worth selling (cost of a puri). I find it odd that everyone says how easy it is to get Crimsons stats yet most of them (The good ones) are still so over priced I can't see how a new player could afford them.

The only way this new person has a chance to do any of this is to buy a lot of Diamonds and sell them to even have a chance of statting for level 67 instances. Much less buy the gear in the current inflation we now see. I'm seeing posts about a new zone and level cap and I don't think that is going to help the inflation at all.

Ugh...sorry about the long post

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Dalkath

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Friday, September 16th 2011, 1:49pm

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Yes....you can get Crimson stats from the mini games but that is still not enough. .... I find it odd that everyone says how easy it is to get Crimsons stats yet most of them (The good ones) are still so over priced I can't see how a new player could afford them.

Can you please explain what mini games give you these Crimson stats. And are these Crimson stats pretty good ones to have on say lvl 55 Armor.

I am very interested in running DoD, DL, ZS.

I also would like to tank HoTO as well. I know it is a bit lower level and a bit eaiser but, I would still like to see all the instances and tank them all at some point.

Thanks again to everyone who replied this is very good information to know.

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squirrlee

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Friday, September 16th 2011, 7:33pm

The Mini games are Goblins in Silverfalls, Maltina's (Course of Terror and Survival Game) in Varanas Central and one other out in The Steepes that I don't do. The Mini Games reward you with Shells that you can turn in for gear with Crimson Stats on them. The crimson stats are about as good as you can get without running an instance. A Crimson Protection VIII Would be 106 Stamina and 106 Dexterity and that is equal to the Best stats you can get Running the highest Instance in the game.

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beamyja

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Sunday, September 18th 2011, 3:14pm

"Ummm...how is this new "tank" going to get said gear? So you want a new tank geared up for level 67 that has never ran an instance? When I say ran an instance, I mean went as the Tank for the party and not escorted by a couple high levels. I have seen several posts where some people QQ about double exp and how it makes high levels with NO actual instance experience. So I see here a new player being told to wait for level 67 and gear up." Squirrlee

well you see, he started off with 3 knight falcon pieces he acquired from his guildies, so there are the pieces he could start of with putting stats on. and I also said to start of small by doing DOD/ZS/DL not to go straight to RT+, because that is really hard to acheive without knowing how to play (this applies to every class).

and why would you use DOD stats when you can get crimsons? i know DOD stats are easy to get and all, but it gives half the stat (imprisonment gives 58 and crimson gives 106).

Also ... did you read the post I posted after the one you quoted? i did say "dirty stat with crimson" that does not require a purified fusion stone, therefore no diamond. I also said that there are certain hp and pdef requirement for DOD and he is set if he did what i said. just to get the hang of tanking before venturing into later instances.

and you know, if you spend time doing the mini games

course of terror = 15 mins max = 50 shells
treasure matrix = 10 mins = 30 shells
Goblin games = up to 30 mins = 50 shells

its the 3 i do daily and that equates to 130 shells/day (which means you get 4 crimson stats/week) which isnt bad for free stats imo. and yes there are chances of getting useless stats like other says, but IT IS FREE! so unless you wanna pay for the stat (12-20m in osha) then you can get them urself. everythings got a price, well for crimsons it is time or heaps of gold.

And on the last note, about diamonds, everyone buys them (either with gold or dollars) just a matter of how much time and money they are willing to spend and how much effort you put in.

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squirrlee

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Sunday, September 18th 2011, 9:11pm

True...crimsons are more powerful stats and I personally would hate to dirty stat with them. I would think selling them would be a better way to go. Why you ask? Well Selling one Crim Patk/Stam could buy 2-4 Imprisonment depending on if it was the buyers puri for the Crim. Then the new tank could clean stat that 3 items in a few days. Still run DoD and get all the tanking exp needed. It's nice to see a guild helping out many don't because the inflation in most servers is crazy, putting most mid-gamers in their own scratching and clawing for gold/gear/stats for thier own toon.

I mentioned dirty statting with DoD because it's where most people grind out Mentos and pretty much ignore any stats that drop in DoD because they don't need them so the new player could score them easy.

A few full runs in DoD could get other items like A dark flame Necklace or some earrings that are OD just to use to get by even dirty statted. The Mini games drop the sand dune accessories too and those can help a lot also.

At least with dirty statting the new player would have an idea how to use the transmutator because again the Corurse of terror drops those free fusion stones and charges.

I'm not trying to troll or argue with you.

I think with all the info posted here a new player can get by rather well in the F2P world of RoM.

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beamyja

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Monday, September 19th 2011, 1:58am

if you are talking about cheap statting, dirty statting is cheaper because you dont need a purified fusion stone (1k tokens or diamonds), and yes course of terror gives you fusion stone (average of 3/day) and goblin games gives you 3 charges. Thats why I suggest to dirt stat with crimson, not clean stat with DOD. because after they can farm DOD to get more stats (castle or even bunker) then they are set to go towards WA (clean mod the equips with bunkers and the other crimsons you get on these equips it will stay for with you for a while).

PS. dias are freely tradable now, so its easier to sell stat without using your own stone! (promotes F2P if you are not a cash shopper)

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Tuesday, September 20th 2011, 4:38pm

i completly agree with squirlee, ive been tanking since beta and i gotta say, theres no other way to actually learn how to tank than doing it yourself. theres so much things to keep track of. cd's, debuffs, gcd's, camera spanning, interupts, dam mitigation, wen and wen not to aoe, wen and wen not to attack, wen and wen not to use threaten, wen to run out of aoe range, reacting fast enuf to ppl who accidently pull mobs, bosses skills/skill bar...etc.

and outside of actual tanking, you have the question of which skills to focus on, mastering ur rotation, being mindfull of all your dam mitigating skills and cool downs. etc.

i can sit here all day and answere every question you may have, but the best way to learn is to do it yourself.

just a couple suggestions, read my guide (Comprehensive Tanking Tips), and as the tank, the party looks to you to take lead and take care of them, dont let them down.

btw, 4 stam, 2 xx/pa...

str/pa
dex/pa
stam/pa
stam/dex
stam/xxx (str, hp, even wis over mp.
stam/pdef

yes at 55, its kf set

i prefered the flame dragon set as well, its a matter of personal preference.

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Teach me how to not suck (level 55+ gear questions

Teach me how to not suck (level 55+ gear questions

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