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i think all it does is permanently increases magic accuracy.

So i guess youll see less mob/players "resisting" your attacks.
just sounds like a passive skill.

What im curious is about the Grafu castle ISS, "mage tricks" it "does scary things" to enemy players, im guessing a fear effect lol? would be epic

I want to know the Grafu one too...someone said it was a dot, but I doubt that would accurate as I'd think it'd say.

My guess is some sort of invis.

From my understanding there's 3 different "failed hits" so to speak


Immune- obviously nothing u can do for the set amount of time.

Resistance- occurs wen ur attack is significantly lower than ur oppositions defense

Miss- occurs wen ur accuracy is low



With the set skill from assembled parts, "Sage" it increases permanently ur magical accuracy by 900+ points. This is a passive skill wen equipped in ur set skills slot. And the buff goes away wen removed from your set skill slot.


So regarding "Sage" it decreases the amount ull "miss" ur opposition, has nothing to do with resisting. Of course we know we RARELY see "miss" pop up.


The only place I've seen this set skill be effective is in sardo. Every now and then on the 1st boss wen I'm clearing barrels with thunderstorm it doesn't hit or crit. It specifically says "miss". Wen equipping "Sage" it should (in theory) reduce the chance of me "missing" a hit. But this is the only time I've ever noticed I've "missed" targets.


Hope this cleared up any confusion anyone had on the set skill and clearing up "fail hit" terms.


As for "Magic Tricks" I wish I knew. Unfortunately I don't think ill be getting the robe anytime soon to complete my set and find out exactly what it does

Quoted from "acypcar90;466586"

From my understanding there's 3 different "failed hits" so to speak


Immune- obviously nothing u can do for the set amount of time.

Resistance- occurs wen ur attack is significantly lower than ur oppositions defense

Miss- occurs wen ur accuracy is low
does

Absorb - Damage taken but not dealt.

Granted that could fall under a type of immune, but it has nothing to do with a set time.

Quoted from "CharlieBananas;466623"

Absorb - Damage taken but not dealt.

Granted that could fall under a type of immune, but it has nothing to do with a set time.

We could kind of count Parry too I suppose. It still hits ur target but parrys and hits em for less.

i just read that stuff about resisting somewhere in the RoM site or if not, the rom wiki, cant find it anymore so i dont know, and yea it does seem wrong for a resist to appear that way.

Quoted from "acypcar90;466586"

From my understanding there's 3 different "failed hits" so to speak


Immune- obviously nothing u can do for the set amount of time.

Resistance- occurs wen ur attack is significantly lower than ur oppositions defense

Miss- occurs wen ur accuracy is low

cmon youre a mage lol

miss = resistance
mages can NEVER get the "miss" message.
resistance is the form of a mages attacks missing.

there are 2 different kinds of resistance.
1) 100% damage is resisted.
2) 50% damage is resisted.

and in both cases if you get resisted, any debuffs/etc will not stick.

If you want to test this, go make a twinked mage with ALOT of int/mak, and no wis. then fight a mob that is 10 level above you. please fraps it, and show you missing an attack lol


immune speaks for itself.

Quoted from "Flashboom;466674"

cmon youre a mage lol

miss = resistance
mages can NEVER get the "miss" message.
resistance is the form of a mages attacks missing.

there are 2 different kinds of resistance.
1) 100% damage is resisted.
2) 50% damage is resisted.

and in both cases if you get resisted, any debuffs/etc will not stick.

If you want to test this, go make a twinked mage with ALOT of int/mak, and no wis. then fight a mob that is 10 level above you. please fraps it, and show you missing an attack lol


immune speaks for itself.

Thank you Flashboom i feel smarter now

Quoted from "Flashboom;466674"

cmon youre a mage lol

mages can NEVER get the "miss" message.

oh? is that so?

thats very interesting..

..so why is it when im in sardo castle 1st boss, and every now and then wen im T-storming the barrels instead of hitting it, it says miss?

Quoted from "Flashboom;466674"

If you want to test this..

yea see..i dont NEED to test this, cuz i run sardo spams nearly every night, and until i was more geared, id miss the barrels all the time.

oh but wait..you said a mage can NEVER get the miss message huh?..

very interesting..

looks like u dont know as much as you think you do

I have not seen a miss on my spells - only resist, absorb or immune, only time I've see miss is when I try to use my staff wrack on some mob.

If there is a miss in a cast, your combat log will show, so please link that and the picture, good piece of inform to update

Magic tricks (The Chapeaunoir set skill) is a instant cast that is similar to fireball.

Quoted from "ConcernedMage;480040"

Magic tricks (The Chapeaunoir set skill) is a instant cast that is similar to fireball.

so many wrong mages..

do you even HAVE the set skill?? lol..

wrong wrong wrong...




Magic Tricks is EXACTLY like Lucky Chance (HoS Mage Set Skill off Bloody Set), only a heck of alot stronger.

the two spells u can cast from Magic Tricks are either:

Ferret Sickle (wind)- 195% + 0.20 INT Wind Damage, and decreases movement speed by 60% for 8 seconds

-OR-

Flame Dance (fire)- 195% + 0.20 INT Fire Damage, and causes 1500 Fire Damage every 2 seconds for 8 seconds.

Quoted from "Sadz202;479644"

If there is a miss in a cast, your combat log will show, so please link that and the picture, good piece of inform to update

oh and btw here's your proof that you are, in fact, WRONG:


as pictured below, you will see circled in RED, SEVERAL TIMES, my thunderstorm "MISSING" the barrels, also i managed to get on screenshot our SECOND MAGE in the party, circled in PURPLE, missing the barrels AS WELL.









Wait but...


You said a mage will NEVER see the "Miss"...yet..I'm a mage..and there it is?..


Please do your homework next time you say something is NEVER possible, and be prepared next time you challenge me to prove you wrong

Quoted from "acypcar90;480090"

oh and btw here's your proof that you are, in fact, WRONG:


as pictured below, you will see circled in RED, SEVERAL TIMES, my thunderstorm "MISSING" the barrels, also i managed to get on screenshot our SECOND MAGE in the party, circled in PURPLE, missing the barrels AS WELL.









Wait but...


You said a mage will NEVER see the "Miss"...yet..I'm a mage..and there it is?..


Please do your homework next time you say something is NEVER possible, and be prepared next time you challenge me to prove you wrong

i have played a mage ALL of ch1 since clops was endgame, and played mage all of ch2 aswell.

I have never once seen a "miss" message.

either
1) they added missing to magic in ch4
2) missing is exclusive to sc barrels or the thunderstorm skill.

so i do know what i am talking about, just i gave up on mage a long time ago.

Quoted from "Flashboom;480319"

i have played a mage ALL of ch1 since clops was endgame, and played mage all of ch2 aswell.

I have never once seen a "miss" message.

either
1) they added missing to magic in ch4
2) missing is exclusive to sc barrels or the thunderstorm skill.

so i do know what i am talking about, just i gave up on mage a long time ago.

Uh-uh..

No..

You were wrong,..

Making excuses to being wrong is fail.

Insulting my knowledge in the first place was even more fail.

@acypcar90
You don't have to act like a snotty brat to prove your point. So you were right, big deal. You do not have to criticize and rub in their face that they were wrong for making a mistake. There will be stubborn people who are in denial about their mistake and you just have to let it go; inflammatory remarks won't make you look better, just more immature.

Quoted from "CostcoSlayer;480341"

@acypcar90
You don't have to act like a snotty brat to prove your point. So you were right, big deal. You do not have to criticize and rub in their face that they were wrong for making a mistake. There will be stubborn people who are in denial about their mistake and you just have to let it go; inflammatory remarks won't make you look better, just more immature.

Lol a snotty brat..interesting..

I don't have to criticize?..again very interesting..as it was my initial comment and knowledge that was insulted and undermined for saying a spell could miss..

Yea..ok lol

Quoted from "acypcar90;480358"

Lol a snotty brat..interesting..

I don't have to criticize?..again very interesting..as it was my initial comment and knowledge that was insulted and undermined for saying a spell could miss..

Yea..ok lol

Wow, first time see a miss lol.

However, I just got more question than an answer. What is it missed? Is it the damage or the slow effect (Thunder storm have the ability to slow targets movement speed and attack speed) is those what is missed by the barrels? If you have a priest, ask him/her to use ice fog of the barrel see if there is a miss. It is a barrel we talking here...so the slow effect is a natural miss not matter what you do.

Little above your combat log, the barrel still taking damage. On next try, throw an electric blot on it see if the dot stays. Thanks ahead.

edit, since your a m/k, try light charge on it, if my guess is correct, a miss and a damage.

edit again, your original claim is miss because of low magic accuracy, that's what people disagree on. Because it is well known fact that magical accuracy deal with your spell getting resist or not. If you like to test this, go dual a priest that is wis stated, take off the staff and do star of light and meteor rotation.

edit ..., btw what am I wrong about?
"I have not seen a miss on my spells - only resist, absorb or immune, only time I've see miss is when I try to use my staff wrack on some mob. " stating my personal experience over length about 2 years in RoM.
Or
"If there is a miss in a cast, your combat log will show, so please link that and the picture, good piece of inform to update" The suggestion on how to prove what you claim is right?

Please at least let mage forum stay flame free (go rage in war and rogue forum hehe), we are here to discuses our experiences in game. Not try to burn others down.

Quoted from "Sadz202;480368"

edit again, your original claim is miss because of low magic accuracy, that's what people disagree on. Because it is well known fact that magical accuracy deal with your spell getting resist or not. If you like to test this, go dual a priest that is wis stated, take off the staff and do star of light and meteor rotation.

I'm sorry I'm not fully understanding what youre asking me to test for u..the english is broken..and I mean no offense to your english, I'm just having trouble understanding what you're asking me test, so ill try my best to answer what I think you meant:



I've tested dueling priests before, using numerous spells with different effects. I dont recall ever seeing "miss" while fighting a priest, only resist or immune. That's not to say it CAN'T happen, I just haven't found a spell that "misses" them yet.


Regarding your theory on "is it the slow effect from thunderstorm that's missing?"


I thought of that as well at first..but thunderstorm hits a target 3 times as we all know wen allowed to go off completely. Everytime those "misses" occurred, was wen the actual damage should have happened. So I'm not convinced its the slow effect missing.


Again, the title of this thread is "assembled parts set skill" and as I've said in this thread and others, the set skill is "Sage" and its a passive that permanently increases your magic accuracy, so long as you have it in your set skill tray. What I stated was the only "use" I've ever seen come out of that set skill is on the barrels in sardo. Having it attached significantly reduces, if not eliminates, me missing altogether, when removed, you get a miss galore as u see pictured above lol