Runes of Magic US / AU

I do believe you can dual weild axes as a Warrior/Rogue

mostly depends on the weapon of the moment.

currenty i think 2h sword is best in game?
2h axe is almost the same.
duel wielding is good but thru testing it falls behind.

now back in the day Sword of fear is OP so dw those was pro,

currently Jugg sword is strong but the 1h sardo axe has lots o crit and patk .....

really hard to say which is better atm.


but yes u want Axes/swords/(hammer? but no good ones out) and u can duel wield or 2her ur choice.

Dual Wield is the way to go.

What Dual Wield does for you:
1) Allows you to use 2 recon slots, which enables you to use a strength of battle pot and not take aggro (enabling full dps -> e.g. I'm using 2 IX's.)

2) In longer fights, using a 2h as a W/R is a painful endeavor. You will find yourself low on rage and energy most of the time (making a careful balance between both key...). Dual wield fixes this problem by allowing you to use more rage skills more often.

3) 5% extra mastery for the 1h narrows the gap between the 2 weapon sets. The 2h weapon has the capability for more burst dps, but because of aggro/rage issues (let's face it: how many people on US servers have a VN cape?), dual wield I think will result in more dps more often than not.

2 Recon's totally takes the cake tho...

Also, to say that just because you are dual wielding you can't burst is...false as well.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/89/…1103011543.jpg/

Also...post patch numbers, no sigil. Crits tho? well of course.

Hmmm i was thinking like use anelia blade for burst dps as those buffs wears off get back to duel wield and bam bam.
But still trying to get a 2hweapon.

OK - with Dual wield. Is it better to have something like two juggler swords(or something comparable)?
Or juggler and dagger?
Last question - T9,10,11 main weapon and yellow stat the second? or T9,10,11 both of them?

Feedback is appreciated - I am planning duel wield at this time. T9 Juggler and something with t6 yellow stat.

Juggler? No. Lanik and Performance.

Juggler Sword tiered in mainhand, Performance Handaxe in Offhand statted

why would you use a juggler sword at all?
performance hand axe is same dps, but gives patk/crit ghost vs a few stam?

Also lanaik's strength is the best 1h axe. its like 20 more dps then performance and gives more patk and crit aswell.
http://www.runesdatabase.com/item/213027/lanaik%27s-strength

So most w/r duel wield lanaik tiered in main hand, and performance axe in offhand.

"but i use juggler for knight side"
you are most likely a k/w, you can use axes still.....

there is NO reason what so ever a warrior or /warrior should use a juggler sword....

Well glad I asked. I guess I was looking at primarily dps:
from Rom armory(when it was up - sad it is gone)
items +12 T9
item dam speed dps lanith str axe 5260 2.8 1878.571429 juggler 6251 3 2083.666667
I used to play k/w w/k. so more tank. trying to convert to W/R - hence why I am asking.

But did not consider Perf hand axe... that looks as it starts at same dps as juggler. And has more crit than any of them.

Anyone selling Perf hand Axe? Maybe should dual wield two perf hand axes? Hm...
Thanks everyone!

@ yoman1 annelia for burst dps and swapping to DW is bad. once u swap main hand weapon u lose all rage/energy....


i use both juggaler and Lanaiks t10+16 with the Laniks at main hand.

they both seem to be close in dps. the lanik give more patk and crit that offsets the added dps of the jugg.

stated offhand is nice but i had t7+12 black energy stated off hand and even tho i have more patk that way using the t10+16 jugg offhand just out damaged the bonus i got from stating offhand.

but thats just me. i have 120k patk with pdam food and 165k patk with patk food during my burn. so the 3k added patk gain from offhand wasnt noticable.

MAYBe if i had +16 the tiered offhand it would have been better? iunno either way its close. no huge huge difference either way u go.




@ twistedfatex jugg sword has almost 200 more dps over the Axes and more pdam as well. meaning that it does more damage than the Axes. Also the Lanaiks strength does not have more patk or more crit than the performance hand axe. IT does have a slightly faster atk speed giving it slightly more dps. (around 40-50)

this is ofc at 10+16 on both.

rom armory isnt always correct.

look at whats in game.

Quoted from "Twistedfatex;479981"

why would you use a juggler sword at all?
performance hand axe is same dps, but gives patk/crit ghost vs a few stam?

Also lanaik's strength is the best 1h axe. its like 20 more dps then performance and gives more patk and crit aswell.
http://www.runesdatabase.com/item/213027/lanaik%27s-strength

So most w/r duel wield lanaik tiered in main hand, and performance axe in offhand.

"but i use juggler for knight side"
you are most likely a k/w, you can use axes still.....

there is NO reason what so ever a warrior or /warrior should use a juggler sword....

Use ItemPreview whenever comparing items. FYI, I wouldn't argue with Andreasels on most issues.

Juggler's Sword in mainhand is what I use because it is 700 dmg more than lanaik at t10+16 and 100 dps more, which is about the equivalent to wearing a flame dragon set at the cost of only 300 crit. There isn't a reason you should be using anything else.

Edit: Well I feel noob this has already been answered. Guess I forgot to use the paging feature XD.

On topic: As I've already stated, the biggest advantage of dual wielding (even during burst) is the fact you get another recon slot, greatly reducing your aggro generated. If you obtain a VN cape, you can even get negative aggro relatively easy.

imo, if you're statted correctly, the added patk off the lanaik's wont make any difference over the juggler's sword. The only thing that might make a difference is the added crit, but I'd rather take the added damage because crit is so random...even with a juggler's sword I'm over 130k patk during my burn.

idc about agro generation thats the tanks issue

honestly on a good burn(where the good atks crit n not the white ones lol)

im bursting 800-900k first 5 seconds and 400-500k for the next 10 seconds after that.... tank still hold agro most of the time(with 1 recon 9 and no pac powder).

if for somereason they lose agro then they just taunt.

but i spose its how well ur guildies are geared as to how well they can hold agro
to make a big point in the descion.

@Baselord just FYI the Damage of a weapon is no longer in the calculation of the melee damage formula, only DPS.
https://forum.runesofmagic.com/showthread.php?t=416536

@4AcHanGE

I already knew that. I never said in any of my posts damage was in the calculation. I just threw out there that the sword has more damage.

The reason I compared to a flame dragon set was in fact because of the dps% difference between the 2 weapons (if it was a straight damage comparison, that would be 2x flame dragon sets although less attack speed)

I am aware of the new formula and have seen it in practice with the Lanaik's Strength & the Juggler's Sword as I've used both mainhands at one point or another and had fooled around with them myself.

Heh...and to stay on topic, since damage is based purely on dps now, the advantages of using a 2h over the dual wield setup have diminished even more, as the 2h offers <7% increase in dps% when you factor in that a 1h weapon has a greater mastery benefit.