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Just remember that when they are talking about rogues they are talking about R/S. Most other rogue classes do not have even a remotely similar DPS output. And one, R/K, has been nerfed.

Yeah everyone knows there's no such thing as any rogue other than R/S phhh

Quoted from "amilineni;492958"

emoguy your representation of rogue stating is completely wrong. There is not even a single stm or hp stat. You are just trying to support warrior. Anyway there is no need to bring this old topic back again. Rogues are fine as they are atm so there is no need of any changes.

i was showing maxium possible patk of the class and why 1.3 is balanced right where it is.

and unless your doin 7h (which i know EoT isnt)

you dont need pdef or hp. tank holds hate/everyone burns boss.
2-5 sardo can be burned.
1-6 of GCH can be burned. (maybe a single hat phase on 4)
if everything is being burned... there is no need for hp or pdef or stam on mods.

btw....... im not a warrior.

Quoted from "amilineni;492958"

emoguy your representation of rogue stating is completely wrong. There is not even a single stm or hp stat. You are just trying to support warrior. Anyway there is no need to bring this old topic back again. Rogues are fine as they are atm so there is no need of any changes.

I lol'd. Before I could finish lol'ing I got one shot by low-blow, again.

It's okay, cuz my w/r shadow stab still kicks butt... except that it does 1/3rd as much damage as the shadow stab of an equally geared (same pAtk/pDef +/- 5%) rogue.

I think the game would be better served if rogues only got 1 pAtk from dex like scouts. Either that or give some more benefit to Warrior's from Str (like a small accuracy boost, something to the tune of 50% of Dex's accuracy benefit)

Quoted from "emoguy2003;493089"

you dont need pdef or hp. tank holds hate/everyone burns boss.

Just wondering, Hate = Aggro right? I've never seen someone refer to it as Hate.

yes hate meaning agro.

but yes its not the patk that is making r/s hits so hard. its the fact that every crit they get gets another 60% crit damage. and another 40% if they premed before it.(whch has no CD)

rouges get more added bonus as well if you consinder 2 equal geared toon one r/s and one w/r. a w/r to dps the same as a r/s has to use there 5min CD plus stong stim.(15% atk speed and 15% pdam and 50% crit damage and 700 crit and 50% acc and 25% atk speed.) thats a huge dps gain.

now add in r/s Cds they willl use a strong stim and assassains rage so crit/crit damage bonus and 25% atk speed.

now you assume the stims cancel each other out as well as the crit damage and crit bonus.
meaning the w/r needs 15% atk speed 15% pdam and 50% acc to do the same dps that r/s does with nothing.

there dps% on skills are the highest. there weapons have highest dps in game (excluding 2h weapons but once u add in the offhand damage form second weapon 2 dagger is better than 1 2her)
they can use these high dps atks without procs/setup atks like other classes or waiting for rage, and they also get a crazy crit damage buff. AND r/s gets another skill allowing to spam any atk for 15seconds almost non stop(energy thief)

and in pvp its totally unbalanced.
r/s get the ability to hide and range atk on top of all that. in 1-2 hit fights a class that can get 1-3 atks almost everytime before oppoent can atk and then can kite with ranged atk......

nerf there skills/weapon damage bonus/buffs ... lol make hide use eneergy or reduce the amount of damage they do while in hide ect ect.

i hate rouges cuz they get everything but i play one (r/w not r/s) cuz its fun.

I haven't seen anyone mention the fact that Rogues have one more slot to put stats on than Warriors have. The max any Warrior can have is the same as what every Rogue can have.

Also, Rogues already get Dodge, Accuracy, and Pattack from Dex. Yet somehow you think it's underpowered because the Patt is less than STR for Warriors, who get Patt, and woohoo, .2 HP? Seriously, I thought this thread was a joke, but for some reason, it's still going. Dexterity is already the most OP stat in the game. Rogues are the most OP class in the game, and still you want more?

Rogues are fine as they are now especially a rogue/scout.
Boosting other class should be the way to go, stop nerfing .
I feel that the main issue in the game now Is for the " chest recovery team" to quickly return every Players missing chest and stuff.