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Friday, November 4th 2011, 2:51am

To all the end game warriors

How much patk do you buff up to without berserk? What is the minimum for sc, somewhere around 60k?

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Friday, November 4th 2011, 4:20am

I would say 55k totally unbuffed for SC...even with berserk you're still missing a large chunk of pa if that's buffed before berserk.

Buffed before berserk i'm at 96.7k.
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Friday, November 4th 2011, 5:58am

well Signia I know that you are pulling like 500k dps in sc from the other posts i have read...do you think like 45k unbuffed would be enough for, lets say 200-250k dps?

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Friday, November 4th 2011, 7:43am

ER...

I would say 55k totally unbuffed for SC...even with berserk you're still missing a large chunk of pa if that's buffed before berserk.

Buffed before berserk i'm at 96.7k.

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Friday, November 4th 2011, 8:41am

To do some decent damage, I guess even 40k p.att unbuffed is enough, as long as you got a good weapon, decent critrate and know how to play.

Unbuffed I am at 73k as W/Wd and 77.3k as W/S
Normal buffed without Berserk/Savage Power and with unfeeded Pet, I am at 100k as W/Wd and 106k with W/S
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Friday, November 4th 2011, 10:32am

I'm just a newb w/wrd and would like to know how in the hell are all you end game warriors getting soo much physical attack LOL :D

You guys must be equip with full boro set atleast t6-t7 +12 or higher to get bonus pa from the sets, and im assuming most are using full pachia set which also gives pa and crits.

Im only 52k pa :( not even close to you guys yet, and i went the cheap newb way using shell gears + full pachia sets.. so im loosing alot of pa from set bonus of boro set.

I am using dilany rings, and im assuming you guys would use trap rings for more pa then, also have the mem earring with pa crit and a ghostly necklace. I am still missing 2 piece of gear that are not stated from a ring and the belt.
all gear are t5 +12
stats
3 str/pa bunker/crimson/castle
1 stam/pa crimson
the other 2 stat are mix with str/stam castle and str/hp crimson/bunker which ever i can afford and find at the time.
most of my gear have 4 slots with potential might agile aggresion level 7 runes,
im using an undead general which looses alot of dps and pa compared to the annelias blade

i get how the w/r can get more pa from the off hand weapon stat, but how will a w/wrd get more pa,

andreasels you guys from the eu server have lvl 9 and 10 runes so does those runes give you a big boost in pa

im from the us server , and on reni specifically I myself have not seen any end game w/wrd running around, or maybe im just too newb to know any end gamers to know the in crowd, mostly keep to myself. If there are any endgame war/ward from reni who wants to let me inspect your gear and dps, give me a pm on the forum, I would like your help please lol.


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Friday, November 4th 2011, 12:53pm

I wear this:

Full Boro Boro Set
Full Paicha Set
Full Aoth Forest Set
Aoth Valiance Cape
Trap Ring

All t6+12 except Aoth Forest Ring and Necklace t5+14 and BoroBoro Battle Armor t7+12

Annelia Blade t10+16

All gear with Block/Revo/Aggr X, 6 Items with Pot X and Rest items with Pot IX

Statting on all items except cape is:

3 Str/P.att bunker/crimson/castle
2 Str/HP bunker/crimson
1 Str/Sta castle

On Cape I got

2 Str/P.att bunker/crimson
2 Sta/P.att bunker/crimson
1 Str/HP bunker
1 Str/Stam Castle

got a bit more focus on stamina there, since I use it on my Warden tank also ^^

Yes, the runes give a bit of boost, but afaik you got Might VII runes on US for example, which we didn't get and which I could use instead of Revolution X, since it doesn't give me really much p.att ^^

Correct me, if I am wrong there ^^

Btw: How much the VII runes costed on US each?
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Server: EN(PVE) Macantacht
Guild: Blackhand

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Friday, November 4th 2011, 2:18pm

Quoted from "andreasels;480644"

To do some decent damage, I guess even 40k p.att unbuffed is enough, as long as you got a good weapon, decent critrate and know how to play.

Unbuffed I am at 73k as W/Wd and 77.3k as W/S
Normal buffed without Berserk/Savage Power and with unfeeded Pet, I am at 100k as W/Wd and 106k with W/S


Well I have around 40k pa and 72% crit unbuffed on my w/r because im using my leather gear from my r/s. My weapon is a t10 +16 cruel thorn. Btw, would you recommend going w/r or w/s?

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Friday, November 4th 2011, 2:25pm

Im at 83k pa with all buffs and using Pdam food. With pa food 94-96k. My base pa unbuffed is almost 62k.
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Friday, November 4th 2011, 3:09pm

Quoted from "kobe4mvp;480672"

Well I have around 40k pa and 72% crit unbuffed on my w/r because im using my leather gear from my r/s. My weapon is a t10 +16 cruel thorn. Btw, would you recommend going w/r or w/s?


Cruel Thorn is a very bad warrior weapon, since it has lower dps than Annelia Blade and since it is hammer you don't do a bleed with slash.

Since W/R is heavily based on the Probing Attack + X combos, he could also work with a hammer, but still it is a bad choice imo.
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Friday, November 4th 2011, 4:11pm

Quoted from "andreasels;480664"

I wear this:

Full Boro Boro Set
Full Paicha Set
Full Aoth Forest Set
Aoth Valiance Cape
Trap Ring

All t6+12 except Aoth Forest Ring and Necklace t5+14 and BoroBoro Battle Armor t7+12

Annelia Blade t10+16

All gear with Block/Revo/Aggr X, 6 Items with Pot X and Rest items with Pot IX

Statting on all items except cape is:

3 Str/P.att bunker/crimson/castle
2 Str/HP bunker/crimson
1 Str/Sta castle

On Cape I got

2 Str/P.att bunker/crimson
2 Sta/P.att bunker/crimson
1 Str/HP bunker
1 Str/Stam Castle

got a bit more focus on stamina there, since I use it on my Warden tank also ^^

Yes, the runes give a bit of boost, but afaik you got Might VII runes on US for example, which we didn't get and which I could use instead of Revolution X, since it doesn't give me really much p.att ^^

Correct me, if I am wrong there ^^

Btw: How much the VII runes costed on US each?


I think the Might VII was 59d each. Or 79d each. I think just the blocks and weapon runes were 79 ea though.

Why do you use Trap ring over Dilany? Is the bonus to PA worth it over losing the crit? Seems like crit would be more important to stack as much as possible since bosses in SC and GC have big crit resistance.

Would you remove the Potentials for Might? I was thinkin' of doing this myself last weekend but I decided against it since it's the only way I get dex besides the rev7 runes i have. (I do same setup as you, just they're all 7 runes) I do have a lvl 50 wind pet that I use from playing Scout in Ch3 so I end up with like 4k+ dex with pet out. I notice I still miss every once in a while (weapon skill is in the 80s for 1h axe). Would changing Potentials out for Mights make that worse?

Quoted from "choujiaki;480653"

I'm just a newb w/wrd and would like to know how in the hell are all you end game warriors getting soo much physical attack LOL :D

You guys must be equip with full boro set atleast t6-t7 +12 or higher to get bonus pa from the sets, and im assuming most are using full pachia set which also gives pa and crits.

Im only 52k pa :( not even close to you guys yet, and i went the cheap newb way using shell gears + full pachia sets.. so im loosing alot of pa from set bonus of boro set.

I am using dilany rings, and im assuming you guys would use trap rings for more pa then, also have the mem earring with pa crit and a ghostly necklace. I am still missing 2 piece of gear that are not stated from a ring and the belt.
all gear are t5 +12
stats
3 str/pa bunker/crimson/castle
1 stam/pa crimson
the other 2 stat are mix with str/stam castle and str/hp crimson/bunker which ever i can afford and find at the time.
most of my gear have 4 slots with potential might agile aggresion level 7 runes,
im using an undead general which looses alot of dps and pa compared to the annelias blade

i get how the w/r can get more pa from the off hand weapon stat, but how will a w/wrd get more pa,

andreasels you guys from the eu server have lvl 9 and 10 runes so does those runes give you a big boost in pa

im from the us server , and on reni specifically I myself have not seen any end game w/wrd running around, or maybe im just too newb to know any end gamers to know the in crowd, mostly keep to myself. If there are any endgame war/ward from reni who wants to let me inspect your gear and dps, give me a pm on the forum, I would like your help please lol.


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Do you have problems missing without having any Dex statted at all? Do you use Accuracy runes?

Quoted from "kobe4mvp;480672"

Well I have around 40k pa and 72% crit unbuffed on my w/r because im using my leather gear from my r/s. My weapon is a t10 +16 cruel thorn. Btw, would you recommend going w/r or w/s?


IMO, W/S is more fun but W/R is the only viable one. W/S suffers from its rage generation skills only having a chance to proc instead of proc'ing on successful hit. W/R will generate rage in quicker, small slots so you'll be able to get skills off quicker. Plus you have Shadowstab for when you're needing to build rage. W/S suffers from having only Shot that doesn't do as good damage as Shadowstab.

But if you want something different, I highly recommend trying it out. I think it's a great combo for playing. You get 2 weapon slots for recon runes so you make out better than the other Warrior classes who run into aggro problems using 2h weapons.

Quoted from "Germz1986;480674"

Im at 83k pa with all buffs and using Pdam food. With pa food 94-96k. My base pa unbuffed is almost 62k.


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Friday, November 4th 2011, 5:00pm

if i remember correctly the might 7 runes were for 59 dias


MachineOfHate

i have just a little over 2k of dex, but with my warden elite it gives me 5% accuracy,
i would say that i dont really miss often when buffed up with hero pots and with a lvl 41 earth holy pet. still working on to max out my pet

but for sure i miss alot against rogues and scouts who stat dex heavy during siege... its really a pain fighting against them, but if i can catch them off guard, i do surprise attack, savage whirlwind , my white attacks auto after this, then i spam potws .. if by chance it all connects im happy with a dead toon below me lol... and if out geared.. im usually dead with only dodge and misses showing up :p

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Friday, November 4th 2011, 5:34pm

Quoted from "MachineOfHate;480694"


Why do you use Trap ring over Dilany? Is the bonus to PA worth it over losing the crit? Seems like crit would be more important to stack as much as possible since bosses in SC and GC have big crit resistance.


Dilan'y got only slightly more crit than Trap Ring, but no p.att at all. If you ask me, then Dilan'y always has been a fail, since there is no p.att at all on it.

I was never using it (except in HoS times for the set bonus, so I mean after the change of it).

I would even prefer Flame Dragon Fang Ring over it (which I used till I got Trap Ring/Aoth Set)

Quoted from "MachineOfHate;480694"


Would you remove the Potentials for Might? I was thinkin' of doing this myself last weekend but I decided against it since it's the only way I get dex besides the rev7 runes i have. (I do same setup as you, just they're all 7 runes) I do have a lvl 50 wind pet that I use from playing Scout in Ch3 so I end up with like 4k+ dex with pet out. I notice I still miss every once in a while (weapon skill is in the 80s for 1h axe). Would changing Potentials out for Mights make that worse?


I would exchange Revolution with might, since accuracy in PvE is nearly not needed. If you miss a boss, this is weapon skill related. Only when you see dodge, then it has to do with accuracy.

Anyway, I am planning to use Enlightenment instead of the revolution to get a bit of everything actually, but without the rune NPC, they are too expensive to make them on VI+ so I would have an actual benefit from it.

Edit: I am at 4.6k accuracy unbuffed without any dex stat on gear (except the red one from GC on upper body), which is way too much for PvE. I got a light pet, but pet doesn't make any difference anyway, since imo it is useless to feed them, since they die quick then and can also pull mobs, so mine is always unfeeded -> immortal, but no attributes.
Druffbaum W/Wd/S and Baumschmuser D/S

Server: EN(PVE) Macantacht
Guild: Blackhand

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Friday, November 4th 2011, 8:32pm

TBH I rather use a Dilan'y Ring instead of a Trap Ring. The reason for this is at around 90k+ patk fully buff pdam food not using cooldowns you should be near the soft cap for SC and GCH. Warriors need as much crit rate as possible and the extra 80 points per Dilan'y ring can make a slight difference in getting a few more critical hits off during a burn. I know some warriors are even going with leather RT gear for more crit rate. Though thats not my style. In other words more crit = more dps especially on a burn attempt and then patk will slightly favor on longer fights. Also for full PVE dps build take off the block runes in exchange for might and exchange Revolution for Agile runes. You will be squishy but max out for patk and str on runes. So it would go Might Agile Potential and Aggression. I still got 14 block 7 runes if I ever decide I need to switch back but sold my revolutions. Also I buff 92k+ patk now using pdam food fully buff w/s like 140k+ and I forgot on my main W/Wd thats pretty but I am sure more and 20.1k str.
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Friday, November 4th 2011, 9:06pm

You don't really want to tell me that 80 crit is better than 1.4k p.att, do you? O.o

Crit is nice to have, but reaching softcap doesn't mean that p.att is useless, you will still see an increase.

The 100k/106k I got fullbuffed is with damage food aswell ofc.
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Guild: Blackhand

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Saturday, November 5th 2011, 7:28am

what is your crit at unbuffed?

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Saturday, November 5th 2011, 3:15pm

3246 crit unbuffed
Druffbaum W/Wd/S and Baumschmuser D/S

Server: EN(PVE) Macantacht
Guild: Blackhand

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Saturday, November 5th 2011, 4:11pm

Quoted from "andreasels;480764"

You don't really want to tell me that 80 crit is better than 1.4k p.att, do you? O.o

Crit is nice to have, but reaching softcap doesn't mean that p.att is useless, you will still see an increase.

The 100k/106k I got fullbuffed is with damage food aswell ofc.


It is based on preference if you feel that a little more patk benefits you then go that route but if you feel that crit is a issue to you compare to other dps classes that can crit easier base off of their primary skills get the little bit more in crit. Your toon and your preference. I will say that if you go more patk then crit rate then being prepare for lvl 70 content will be more likely but also depending on the need content critical resistance which typically is high for instance bosses. I am at 71% crit rate unbuff that is 3990. At 3200 crit rate your only at 65%. I know in the US a lot of end gamers have 70%+ crit rate warriors scouts and rogues. and if they can't +16 everything they at least do their weapon rings necklace and GCH chest. For damage higher crit rate and higher crit damage. Also comparing Euro and USA players is quite difficult. I am fully restatted a full PVE build like yourself and even if I used the same gear as you I probably be at 98-99k patk. I probably have less strength then you too using full boro boro set also. At my build I am 93k patk fully buff pdam food typo from earlier. But hey imo not everyone should be the same build makes the game boring thats why I don't use block runes and trap rings too : )
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Endgame DPS, Tank and Off Tank on a Elf ; )

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Server
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Monday, November 7th 2011, 5:06pm

I for sure would not use the Trap Ring. 1400 pa is nice and all, But with the exception of Annelia I'm above pa cap for all bosses for the duration they are alive in GC HM. My crit is a touch over 4200 ish
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67/67/60 W/K/R.... Been Warrior for 2+years and LOVING IT... oh and I CAN DPS!
Now done paying too much money for a game that has not had 2+ year old problems fixed.

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Monday, November 7th 2011, 10:16pm

Quoted from "Germz1986;481323"

I for sure would not use the Trap Ring. 1400 pa is nice and all, But with the exception of Annelia I'm above pa cap for all bosses for the duration they are alive in GC HM. My crit is a touch over 4200 ish


Since there is no cap, you can't be above ^^
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Server: EN(PVE) Macantacht
Guild: Blackhand