knight statting w/ content 4.0.5

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Wednesday, November 16th 2011, 2:52am

in my opinion theres no real need to change WHAT to stat, depending on personal taste (more HP / more Def / more Dex (dodge) - so were just picking the next bigger stats as soon as available?

I think ill keep going with 1x HP / 3x PDEF / 2x PATK per Item
- as i do have X runes but my DPS do not have recon 8/9 therefore no permanent -100%+ aggro i need some base patk
(im on RoM DE/EU , dont forget - same game content but itemshop content differs sometimes because of "what the customers on each other end of the world want"

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So i think ill be looking at:

Sta/Pdef Crimson 8 or Bunker 8(whatever is at hand)
Sta/Pdef blabla of the Heroes 8 (mementos and event and instance)
Sta/Pdef Glorious blablabla 8(new event currency stuff, check romwelten)
Sta/HP blablabla of the Heroes 8 (probably hardmode again)
Sta/Patk blablabla of the Heroes 8 (mementos and event currency and instance)
Sta/Patk Glorious blablabla 8 (event currency)

so:
1x 106 Sta
5x 116 Sta

4 times pdef with only one patk would be possible by statting crimson AND bunker, but unless i see im not losing too much patk ill keep /patk twice. (planning on changing one of the 4 X runes away from Revolution X to something more tank-worthy as soon as good options appear ... )

Yes, im missing out on dex on purpose, maybe ill have to think again after meetings with the new bosses, but unless we get scalings like RT hard modes where even full buffed endgame tanks got onehit back in the days - ill be fine. well find out in a week or two when enough data is available

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How is everyone else planning to build?

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Wednesday, November 16th 2011, 4:07am

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in my opinion theres no real need to change WHAT to stat, depending on personal taste (more HP / more Def / more Dex (dodge) - so were just picking the next bigger stats as soon as available?

I think ill keep going with 1x HP / 3x PDEF / 2x PATK per Item
- as i do have X runes but my DPS do not have recon 8/9 therefore no permanent -100%+ aggro i need some base patk
(im on RoM DE/EU , dont forget - same game content but itemshop content differs sometimes because of "what the customers on each other end of the world want" )
So i think ill be looking at:

Sta/Pdef Crimson 8 or Bunker 8(whatever is at hand)
Sta/Pdef blabla of the Heroes 8 (mementos and event and instance)
Sta/Pdef Glorious blablabla 8(new event currency stuff, check romwelten)
Sta/HP blablabla of the Heroes 8 (probably hardmode again)
Sta/Patk blablabla of the Heroes 8 (mementos and event currency and instance)
Sta/Patk Glorious blablabla 8 (event currency)

so:
1x 106 Sta
5x 116 Sta

4 times pdef with only one patk would be possible by statting crimson AND bunker, but unless i see im not losing too much patk ill keep /patk twice. (planning on changing one of the 4 X runes away from Revolution X to something more tank-worthy as soon as good options appear ... )

Yes, im missing out on dex on purpose, maybe ill have to think again after meetings with the new bosses, but unless we get scalings like RT hard modes where even full buffed endgame tanks got onehit back in the days - ill be fine. well find out in a week or two when enough data is available )

How is everyone else planning to build?

dex is more valuable to me than justn adding to dodge, it has more value for the PAcc it gives you. im pretti much going the same...

stam/pdef
stam/pdef
stam/pa
stam/pa
stam/dex
stam/str (or) pa

only reason im agaisnt the use of hp stats, more so as in (hp/str, hp/pa, etc...) is hp is hot butter without pdef, stam/hp isnt bad at all, but since us servers are limited on rune options, i choose something that will help with more pa....so either str or pa

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Wednesday, November 16th 2011, 6:13am

Quoted from "YomanROM;483711"

Sta/Pdef Crimson 8 or Bunker 8(whatever is at hand)
Sta/Pdef blabla of the Heroes 8 (mementos and event and instance)
Sta/Pdef Glorious blablabla 8(new event currency stuff, check romwelten)
Sta/HP blablabla of the Heroes 8 (probably hardmode again)
Sta/Patk blablabla of the Heroes 8 (mementos and event currency and instance)
Sta/Patk Glorious blablabla 8 (event currency)

Yes, im missing out on dex on purpose, maybe ill have to think again after meetings with the new bosses, but unless we get scalings like RT hard modes where even full buffed endgame tanks got onehit back in the days - ill be fine. well find out in a week or two when enough data is available )

I agree completely on that way of statting. Using a dex stat is pointless if we wont be required to have a crap ton of dodge like the RT Dia days. However I do plan on keeping my revolution runes for the little dex it gives + dex from potential runes + swiftness from scout secondary for a little accuracy and hey whatever dodge I get I'll take. Accuracy should be no problem with just dex from runes+ Lucky Holder title so shouldnt waste another P.Def for a Dex. Btw have you seen new sword? P.Dmg on it is sickkk

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Wednesday, November 16th 2011, 6:51am

I thought Knights were still due a Balance that is actually not a Nerf. I would think it might change something in the way one might stat. I don't know if two Patk are going to be enough. It really depends on the Def of the bosses. Dumping Accuracy my not be the smartest idea either.

Not to mention all the crying about Shell stats being too easy to get is kinda pointless now because they are old news and only good for what 3 months? People whined and screamed about how easy it was to get the stats and how OP the shell gear was. Now it's not like any of that would have mattered if they were left un-nerfed. All it might have created is a few more players that could have ran the GHM and maybe helped dump more stats/gear into the game.

I think maybe some people are counting chickens before they have hatched.:p

I can't wait to watch the economy go completely out of wack. I have no idea why people are selling Dias and not waiting for the new content to pop up and score the big Gold. The Elite players will scramble to stat/plus all that new gear. :rolleyes:

The offers to buy Dias will be high and the sellers, if they are smart will hold their Dias and wait for the uber rich to offer insane amounts of gold for them.

Then we can watch the price of Gear/stats skyrocket too!:p

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Wednesday, November 16th 2011, 1:42pm

@mikkehboii: dont become too exited because the sword story has a catch.

the best lvl70 sword in the database is not connected to any NPC atm (Unrivaled Sword).

the 2nd best again would be lvl65 legendary moa then ... its a tick better than Letins Protection.

as for dex: as long i do not miss anything im fine. and i want Enlightenment7+ as replacement for my Revolution X, 5s or 6s wont cut it. But we only had an offer with 3x Vs so far, that would make ~2500 dias per Enlightenment7, so ..ehm...no. ill wait.

current: Juggler's Sword 2847@3.0 -- 949 DPS

LVL70 Swords + Moa:
Unrivaled Sword: 3472@2.5 // 157 Stamina (no connection to NPCs) --- 1388,8 DPS
Legendary Dragon Spirit: 3132@2.4 // 143 Stamina ---- 1305 DPS <--- LVL 65 legendary Moa
Letin's Protection 2733@2.4 // 140 Stamina / 1200 patk ---- 1138,75 DPS
Hero's Blade 2597@2.5 // 1050 matk (+fixed stat, probably mementos) 1038,8 DPS
Sword of Protection 2493@2.4 / 175 Strength / 122 Stamina 1038,75 DPS
Short Sword of Defiance 2421@2.4 // 175 Strength / 122 Stamina 1008,75 DPS

on a sidenote:
Shint's Secret Intelligence 2250@1.8 // 1200 patk (no connection to NPCs) <- probably old stuff in the database, because the last boss on hardmode has a dagger with the exact same name, and speed 1.8 is the common speed of daggers, not one-handed swords.

Letins Protection is atm listed as hardmode drop, too bad. i want Unrivaled Sword ;/

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Wednesday, November 16th 2011, 2:45pm

new stats all the way:

stam/hp(hardmode)
stam/str(hardmode)
stam/def(glorious)
stam/def(hero)
stam/pa(glorious)
stam/pa(hero)

runes:

block ix
revo ix
pot ix
enlightenment vii

depending on how much dex i have will probly drop the revos for ferocity 7+ but enlighenment are already a pain to make going to take awhile.

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YomanROM

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Wednesday, November 16th 2011, 4:58pm

Quoted from "ray1981;483720"

only reason im agaisnt the use of hp stats, more so as in (hp/str, hp/pa, etc...) is hp is hot butter without pdef, stam/hp isnt bad at all, but since us servers are limited on rune options, i choose something that will help with more pa....so either str or pa

fixed damage, magical damage? or do you stat sta/wis or even sta/mdef ?
not every damage we have to take is physical or simply a 30% aoe where HP doesnt matter at all (as long enough is left for the next autohit of the boss) so i like to have some hp buffer.

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mikkehboii

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Wednesday, November 16th 2011, 5:19pm

Dam, lol i really do want unrivaled sword.

Tien, by hardmode do you mean theres going to be SC hard with this expansion?

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Wednesday, November 16th 2011, 5:35pm

no, next instance is "Tomb of Seven Heroes" with easy/normal/hard. I doubt we will ever see a SC hardmode.

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Wednesday, November 16th 2011, 5:50pm

Despite the upcoming patch, I'm trying to hold off on statting for a few reasons:

1) Waiting to see exactly how difficult its going to be to get the new stats
2) To see exactly what the new stats are and see how I can put them on my gear
3) Waiting for the economy to take a plunge to finish actually gearing up
4) Waiting for some better OD gear to get on the AH, or waiting until I can farm them.. Most of my accessories are still UD and this needs to be fixed; those are a priority to re-stat.

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Wednesday, November 16th 2011, 5:59pm

I see, guess it will be another raid then with a hard mode :/

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Thursday, November 17th 2011, 3:32am

Quoted from "YomanROM;483803"

fixed damage, magical damage? or do you stat sta/wis or even sta/mdef ?
not every damage we have to take is physical or simply a 30% aoe where HP doesnt matter at all (as long enough is left for the next autohit of the boss) so i like to have some hp buffer.

well, % based attacks might count more against some one, i agreaa that some mag aoes suck and hp does give room, but for the most part, pdef comes into play alot more frequently.

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Thursday, November 17th 2011, 5:29am

Anyone sure is gonna be an Annihilation of Hero? What about that Guardian that comes from new currency? no sta/hp from there i assume?

Im not sure if im gonna restat at all just for this instance. The difference is just a little better if i saw number right (583-63

. I think i rather sell everything for the first month and then start to stat when those become cheap.

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Thursday, November 17th 2011, 8:18am

Pretty sure there is anni of hero just saw it in item preview. And no theres no stam/hp nor stam/str or stam/wis from the new vendors. Don't even know why they don't put them out yet there is always stam/dex and int/stam doesn't make sense. Hope they release the full knight balance if there even is one so i can decide to continue clean statting my weapon or tier it.

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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 12:59am

Think I am favoring more effective health than mitigation. It seems like less gain overall with the binary defensive stats in ROM to prioritize PDef.

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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 12:23pm

i might use one stam/hp if there is a good one

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Friday, December 2nd 2011, 1:54am

if there is a hero stam/hp would a tank use that stat along with annih of the castle??????

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Friday, December 2nd 2011, 2:23am

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Think I am favoring more effective health than mitigation. It seems like less gain overall with the binary defensive stats in ROM to prioritize PDef.

so how are you planning to stat?

im still going for my plan above with 3x /pdef 1x /hp 2x /patk

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Friday, December 2nd 2011, 3:31pm

2 sta/patk 4 sta/pdef
2 sta/patk 3 sta/pedf - 1 sta/dex or sta/hp

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Wednesday, January 11th 2012, 2:43am

ive seen a lot of knights going

sta/def (crim)
sta/def (bunker)
sta/def (glory)
sta/def (hero)
hp/def (hero)
sta/patk (glory)

worth it to replace sta/patk with a hp/def stat?

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