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Damn Froggy did such a good job on fixing SW walls that now they wont let anyone in SW. Glad you did something right *slow clap*. Now cant test to see how much worse SW is with los problems and GCD.

being that this is a priest section, yet a general thread topic concerning all i shall post here:


mages cant spam flame, speed reduction is now useless, mage dps is out the window.


but scouts can spam shot again.


Ch3 dejavu anyone?


no seriously...take the gcd off mage's flame, at least. i dont really notice too much of a difference with other skills, etc,




civilized simplistic response:

either the gcd goes, or i go

and absolutely no diamonds from me until fixed.

Quoted from "ghostwolf82;486106"

Consider this: revert the gcd back or lose players. This is not a threat, this is a promise. I know plenty of people who are unhappy enough with this change they are seriously looking elsewhere just in case. Myself included.

If it isn't fixed, I'm out. This time for good.

+1

After testing priest spells more extensively I'm ready to drop this game. It's annoying to watch people die and all you can do is stare at a cooldown message and say "Sorry, I couldn't cast."

I have gone over all my healing spells (and yeah I use more then just uh and gh, I always have. There are so many other spells to consider like sac cure, cleanse, etc.) and nothing I can come up with is going to help deal with this change. Rotation doesn't matter, being able to do 1 sec Heals doesn't matter, there will always be 1 second in between heals where I can't cast and that is more then enough time to have a tank or dps drop dead from the lack of them.

+1 to ghost and acypcar. I've been playing for years, through all the patches and nerfs, and this is the one thing that'll make it or break it for me. If I'm unable to heal, then I'm useless to anyone. Simple as that. And if I'm useless, why bother playing?

bad enough the healer's job just got epic-ly more difficult....but god help you if a leaf, a slight bump, or idk...air... line of sights a heal. or if you have to pot which adds another 1 sec gcd.

non casters didnt seem to grasp the significance of heals not previously having a gcd since they had cast times. now having to wait 1 second to even begin a follow up heal feels like forever.

seems p/k's healing themselves as they heal others makes them even more overly needed over other combos plus druid hot's to fill in. did nothing to balance...its borked the flimsy balance that was there and made more irrelevant class combos.

sigh

Quoted from "ghostwolf82;486106"

Consider this: revert the gcd back or lose players. This is not a threat, this is a promise. I know plenty of people who are unhappy enough with this change they are seriously looking elsewhere just in case. Myself included.

If it isn't fixed, I'm out. This time for good.

Quoted from "acypcar90;486172"

civilized simplistic response:

either the gcd goes, or i go

and absolutely no diamonds from me until fixed.

QFT. I consider myself pretty die-hard, and I've dealt with a lot in my relatively short time in Taborea. I've met, then waved a sad farewell to many friends over the last several months. This GCD kills the game for me. Not only does it fail to address any problem brought up by the players, but more importantly, it tells me a lot about Runewaker and Frogster. Even if reversed, I'm challenged to think of any reason to stay longer and continue to support these companies and this product.

personally i dont even think wasting my time to write a reply to this is worth it, but here i am....

THIS IS UTTERLY *%$^$&% DUMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We just had to take the two best priest on our server in our group to get to the 4th boss in Heros Easy...yes thats right, the two best priest on our entire server!!!! Yes im from that lame server Indigo, where all 30 people still play and we still are the only server to NOT clear grafu hard...YAY!!!! If we couldnt do it before, we sure wont now with this GCD nerf. Granted it was more of a learning experience in Heros tonight.

But I truelly see no logical reason for this nerf, i mean were to many mages and priest with iceblade burning thru sardo and grafu in 5minutes and it seemed way to OP right? get real guys, ur trying to kill ur game and doing a good job at it. You put all these "nice" sales on this weekend for black friday and we shall see wat cyber monday brings to make some money and make ur players happy, but with this nerf ur losing more money then ur gaining...didnt anyone ever tell you, the customer is alawys right?? so make a smart business move, fix the GCD nerf, and give us our chest back with some compinsation for the 2month screw over, yea we havent all forgot about our missing gear and chest.

Anyways sorry for the rant, got a bit off topic and just kept going.

R.I.P. All Priest and all who they try to heal....

you didn't have the 5th optioni hate it, but it's a good theory, here's how you have to do it to get what you were looking for.

the GCD has to begin on activation of the ability, not afterward. .6 second UH should not be .6 sec + 1 sec GCD. it should be: click heal, GCD and cast start, .4 seconds goes by, UH can be cast again. same with flame. all direct spells should initiate this GCD. ALL of them. yes, even hax blade, which i'm being told is working just like it used to. on second though, not necessarily all. in the case of damage dealers with a long line of skills, no, the GCD shouldn't be activated. however, any skill which wouldn't activate it shouldn't be able to be used twice in a row. there should always be an intervening spell between. healing is a different story. unless incoming damage is reduced EVERYWHERE, by making spells take more than twice as long to cast as a healer, again, that GCD needs to begin when the spell is activated, not finished. we need to be able to move from UH, take a step, GH then follow immediately with an UH.

when it screws a class out of their abilities, there's a problem. wait, lemme rephrase that.

when it screws a class out of performing it's role in the game, there's something very very wrong. for healers, if you want this GCD to work, wisdom needs to work just like it does, but also needs to contribute 1-1 as heal power increase bonus, as that's the only way tanks are going to survive some of the content RW created.

the downside to the whole post: this is a RW thing. not FA. don't expect a change, or at least soon. i'm gonna keep playing, farming mems, and getting my stuff, in hopes that they are going to use this great idea how it SHOULD be used.

Although me no hast run serious hard content yet, me thoughts be wit Deus. Make the GCD trigger on the START o the casts, an not AFTER the casts.
BTW did any bother ter notice the shortened GH cast time? Or twas that jus me pots speedin me up?

PS, Iceblade still worketh the same (instants always had a GCD), fer which me be grateful. Killin mobs in the new zone be slower, me be sure tis cause they be higher lvl.

Lemon

sooo if wis is useless to a priest.. thats seems to be the issue to fix.

ch3 > spam GH
ch4 > omg priest are ruined i cant spam GH. lets spam urgent instead.
4.0.5 > omg i cant spam urgent heal what do i do.

same as scouts
ch3 > spam shot
start of ch4 > no spam shot omg /ragequit scouts are utternly useless.
now in ch4 > scouts make good dps class. but had to learn how to play there class besides spamming 1 or 2 skills + buffs.

i wach scrut on healers. i see GH/Uh and sumtimes a soulsource.

really how many healers use "heal"?
a skill that completely useless?


i suggest that they make wis useful.
priest should not have the hp/pdef of a tank. there healers wearing cloth.

i think changing the healing calc so that wis is more effective essnetialy double the heal power. since its 2 times as long to cast.
healer should have like 18-20k wis at current to be endgame healer imo. but its not true. all healing come from gear not mods.

healers need somethign to modddd to make them more effective.

not just faster skills to use.


besides i like the idea it makes the game that much more harder.

when u can clear sardo and GCH in ch3 gear..... somethign is wrong.

ENDGAME instances 1st boss maybe 2nd in lower gear. to get to 3rd u should have 2-3 new peices. to get to 4th u should have 4-6 pieces ect ect. last boss shouldnt be dont till u have all gear and mods except that what last boss drops.

plus if u cant outheal the damage a tank is tanking then either the tank needs more gear, the healer needs better heals or if its trash take more mages for CCs.

I tank up till this patch release. there wasnt a boss fight in sardo that i needed a heal for. damage taken < my hp for the fight. on trash mobs its the same way.

GCH same except 4th bossand 7th cuz its a long fight.
too easy.

as for casting speed pots should totally still be used. reducing cast time means its that much faster to cast next still GCD or no GCD. 1 sec + 1 sec = 2 second. 1 sec + .5 sec - 1.5 sec. .... more heals in less time = more healsssss.

Edit... dont get me wrong. there needs to be more changes to priest. but i like this change.
maybe dimishing returns on UH spam kinda like the GH debuff. and dbl the heal power of Heal. ??
and make no cap on wis HPB? but thatd be too op. nerf hpb on gear if u increase wis hbp. SO HEALERS HAVE TO STAT A STAT TO BE GOOD> NOT WHATEVER THEY FEEL LIKE! AKA STAM/pdef/hp

bah memozguy, like a warrior knows anything about healers and stuffs. you pull aggro and die in the first second and watch TV until the fights over.

go 3v3 and i show you a ferret to the face! just dont start until i say ready. takes 3 or 4 seconds for my ferret instant to fire. weirdest instant cast ever. :/


gogogogo

maybe ur ferrest needs mor lighter fluid... or a bigger match?

and maybe... the warrior wouldnt pull agro if the tank could tank instead of seeing how much hp they can have. OORRR If the healer could heal within 5 hits of the warrior taking agro? you would think with no gcd skills it wouldnt be that hard to press a button ....

Well. I had just put a T-9 Staff together for a P M K and was enjoying bringing the char up so I could being it to SW and heal gates / people etc.

Well, Heal is now useless I was with two guild mates in an instance could barely heal one as Could only sit and watch the others health go down. Is this a new rule ? one priest per offensive combatant ?

I also took the char to Savage Lands last night and it took me 10 to 15 seconds to solo anything 3 levels below me when i could do it quickly a day before. Even then I had to Wait for Lightning to cool down before I could run the ONE offense combo that works halfway effectively ( Lghtng, Chain O Light, IceWB, Fireball.) Otherwise i just had to let them beat on me and stab the IWB or fireball button alternately. Operative point "3 Levels below me". And I can barely kill them effectively ? Really ? So I should expect 30 + Seconds per mob if I Tried fighting on my level ? Guess i can get a level per year, yay ~! ( biter sarcasm)

I Guess that was a Big WASTE of MY money to T9 and + that Staff to the max. Thanks for the heads up that you were going to Erase any effectiveness of a class as a solo class. I have some Dias I will use for puris only, But I will NEVER Spend another penny on this game. Customers vote with their displeasure with their wallets and you just perma closed mine. G J ~!

God forbid ( yea it happened) I had more than one Mob at once, Total Fail. I guess you people really want this game to fail............ You are doing a great job of pushing players away, I will give you credit for that. I don't care if you roll the whole patch back, I will never spend another penny on this game. You don't just get to $$#@%$% me for free without consulting me and then say "here is a tissue".

And the targeting Fail was also epic. Did this even get tested prior to implementation. Was their NO other way to fix siege war castle LOS issues ? As someone suggested, just put a fence around it. You ( frogster) have used a sledgehammer where a scalpel was required. Thanks for quashing my char.

Quoted from "emoguy2003;486360"

sooo if wis is useless to a priest.. thats seems to be the issue to fix.

ch3 > spam GH
ch4 > omg priest are ruined i cant spam GH. lets spam urgent instead.
4.0.5 > omg i cant spam urgent heal what do i do.

same as scouts
ch3 > spam shot
start of ch4 > no spam shot omg /ragequit scouts are utternly useless.
now in ch4 > scouts make good dps class. but had to learn how to play there class besides spamming 1 or 2 skills + buffs.

i wach scrut on healers. i see GH/Uh and sumtimes a soulsource.

really how many healers use "heal"?
a skill that completely useless?


i suggest that they make wis useful.
priest should not have the hp/pdef of a tank. there healers wearing cloth.

i think changing the healing calc so that wis is more effective essnetialy double the heal power. since its 2 times as long to cast.
healer should have like 18-20k wis at current to be endgame healer imo. but its not true. all healing come from gear not mods.

healers need somethign to modddd to make them more effective.

not just faster skills to use.


besides i like the idea it makes the game that much more harder.

when u can clear sardo and GCH in ch3 gear..... somethign is wrong.

ENDGAME instances 1st boss maybe 2nd in lower gear. to get to 3rd u should have 2-3 new peices. to get to 4th u should have 4-6 pieces ect ect. last boss shouldnt be dont till u have all gear and mods except that what last boss drops.

plus if u cant outheal the damage a tank is tanking then either the tank needs more gear, the healer needs better heals or if its trash take more mages for CCs.

I tank up till this patch release. there wasnt a boss fight in sardo that i needed a heal for. damage taken < my hp for the fight. on trash mobs its the same way.

GCH same except 4th bossand 7th cuz its a long fight.
too easy.

as for casting speed pots should totally still be used. reducing cast time means its that much faster to cast next still GCD or no GCD. 1 sec + 1 sec = 2 second. 1 sec + .5 sec - 1.5 sec. .... more heals in less time = more healsssss.

Edit... dont get me wrong. there needs to be more changes to priest. but i like this change.
maybe dimishing returns on UH spam kinda like the GH debuff. and dbl the heal power of Heal. ??
and make no cap on wis HPB? but thatd be too op. nerf hpb on gear if u increase wis hbp. SO HEALERS HAVE TO STAT A STAT TO BE GOOD> NOT WHATEVER THEY FEEL LIKE! AKA STAM/pdef/hp

I suspect your a Melee class.

This is a game, played for enjoyment. It should always be about what a player feels like. Play how you want to make it fun for you, not how anyone esle says you should play.

If any of these ideas are even slightly implemented, especially the last one.....ever. That will be my...and my wallets last minute in this game. That directly affects players investment and at a high level that can be substantial.

Don't feed the Troll. Someone who does not play the class has nothing to say that is constructive.

Let them cut his Armor defense or DPS in half and see how the tables of his opinion quickly turn.

so its ok that while the rest of the rom world has to work on perfect rotation/ perfect mods and GCD but Priest dont have to do ne of this?
just spam UH and whatever mods u want wether its stam/wis/int or even str if u wanted. doesnt matter u still heal the same and timing doesnt matter u got no gcd oh n rotation? its spam UH unless theres an aoe then GH. buff every 15mins. maybe a Cooldown here or there on tank if u feel like it. but in this game u dont even gotta do that. u can spam skills fast enough it wont matter. but now omg u gotta work hard to do ur job QQ .. QQ .. QQ


edit.

if im not mistaken GCD was .75 and is now 1 sec. that is a 34% less in dps. PLUS every class got 1-2 atks not on GCD with CD that gave them added dps so ur looking another 10% dps right there. 44% dps loss pretty close to 50% on ur heals. id have to t15 my weapon in order to dps the same now as i did before.

Quoted from "emoguy2003;486430"

so its ok that while the rest of the rom world has to work on perfect rotation/ perfect mods and GCD but Priest dont have to do ne of this?
just spam UH and whatever mods u want wether its stam/wis/int or even str if u wanted. doesnt matter u still heal the same and timing doesnt matter u got no gcd oh n rotation? its spam UH unless theres an aoe then GH. buff every 15mins. maybe a Cooldown here or there on tank if u feel like it. but in this game u dont even gotta do that. u can spam skills fast enough it wont matter. but now omg u gotta work hard to do ur job QQ .. QQ .. QQ


edit.

if im not mistaken GCD was .75 and is now 1 sec. that is a 34% less in dps. PLUS every class got 1-2 atks not on GCD with CD that gave them added dps so ur looking another 10% dps right there. 44% dps loss pretty close to 50% on ur heals. id have to t15 my weapon in order to dps the same now as i did before.

If you're angry that priests have only two completely viable heals, it's not us you should be blaming it on. Heal IS useless. It has been for a long time. It was useless before, and it is even more useless now. If they were going to do this, they needed to DOUBLE the power of heals, not leave them the same as-is, because healers are having a hell of a hard time keeping up with damage now.

Let them go put high cooldowns on ALL knight skills, or nerf them all to do half of the aggro/damage they do now. Then see how well YOU fare, and tell us we're QQing. It's not as simple as you make it sound. Priests rely on being able to get burst heals off quickly. We have no HoTs to soak up damage in between bursts (P/S not included). This nerfed our ability to get heals off as much as we need to.

Emoguy do you play a Priest ? If not then why do you Troll this thread ?

Lets take the priests very very very very limited offense away while we are at it and I now have a cartoon thats useless.

So educate us on the proper rotation o' benevolent god of ROM, cause us peons obviously know nothing of our own class and need your divine guidance.

Otherwise if you are not constructive, Go troll somewhere else.