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Friday, November 25th 2011, 10:37pm

LOL the did. they took HolySrike main agro skill from 5x agro to 2x agro.

didnt affect my tanking.

and if u read what i said i said to make other skills more useful like heal.

you should heal most of the time. UH when somethin bad hits single person GH when aoe hits .
UH should be stronger to use than heal in a heal per secondkinda way but as long as its faster to spam nonstop then heal will never be used.

Make Heal twice as strong with 1 sec cast but Urgent heal no cast and give u a debuff giving diminishing returns so after 2-3 its useless for 5-10 seconds. idea being GH when nessacary, heal normally and uh if somethign big happens. SPamming UH for an unlimitied amount of time non stop with no gcd if what makes skills like Heal obsolete. At time you can 1UH each person after AOE almost as fast as 1 GH. esp p/k who dont have to UH themselves.
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Friday, November 25th 2011, 11:05pm

Quoted from "BuzzSnapper;486449"

Emoguy do you play a Priest ? If not then why do you Troll this thread ?

Lets take the priests very very very very limited offense away while we are at it and I now have a cartoon thats useless.

So educate us on the proper rotation o' benevolent god of ROM, cause us peons obviously know nothing of our own class and need your divine guidance.

Otherwise if you are not constructive, Go troll somewhere else.




since when are priest meant to dps?

your job is to heal. thats it. wanna solo then dont go priest. or use ur secondary skills /r SS, /k HS or disarm, /w Slash, /s Vamp arrow/shot

Knights are meant to tank. thats it.

Dps are meant to atk things.

Mages apparently are only meant for trash and/or be a novelty item. :(


and im not trollling im giving my opinion on how priest class should be.

plus iunno whats wrong with ur healers cuz my healers doesnt seem to bother them when running GCH.... ppl still alive. bosses still die. they pay a little more attention butttt other than that they dont notice it. they stopped QQ ing once they started runnign and using there skillls and seen its not that bad.
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Friday, November 25th 2011, 11:39pm

Quoted from "emoguy2003;486461"

since when are priest meant to dps?

your job is to heal. thats it. wanna solo then dont go priest. or use ur secondary skills /r SS, /k HS or disarm, /w Slash, /s Vamp arrow/shot

Knights are meant to tank. thats it.

Dps are meant to atk things.

Mages apparently are only meant for trash and/or be a novelty item. :(


and im not trollling im giving my opinion on how priest class should be.

plus iunno whats wrong with ur healers cuz my healers doesnt seem to bother them when running GCH.... ppl still alive. bosses still die. they pay a little more attention butttt other than that they dont notice it. they stopped QQ ing once they started runnign and using there skillls and seen its not that bad.



Well I'm glad you have found a couple of slave healers to keep your ego up.
However last time I checked I didn't have a job in the game. I have a roll to play within a group dynamic, but only during an instance run which not everyone see's as the be all, end all in this game.
Priest is the solo class, and can also be a DPS Class.
Priest's, as in some other classes you can be what ever you choose to be. Just don't expect to get any recognition in this thread because of your narrow sited views on how everyone else around you "should" play and build their character to suit you.
As far as I'm concerned your class and every other melee class work for us...the healers, and right now there are a lot thinking of leaving and you'll be out of a job.
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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 12:00am

M/W got hit the hardest ;-; all we had was our burst period :(....
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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 12:11am

its not about what i want to work its about what works.

i cant heal as a warrior no matter how hard i tried. doesnt work. priest can use atks but its not effective enough to make a difference.

ur not gonna run the end game content with priest dps.
ur not gonna run it with a scout tanking or a knight/priest healing.

it doesnt work. classes have there purpose. yes you have secodanry so a p/s does have an atk. a p/r has attacks a r/p can heal.

is it effective enough to do the job? no. if thts what u want so be it. but dont QQ cuz those combonations arent as OP as others.

besides priest have there dps balance . as a prist it will take forever to kill somethignbut in return u should never have to worry about dying.

as a melle ya we can kill faster but we die easy too. no heals. tanks die slowers but same time 0 heals to keep them alive.

its a balance between defense and offense.
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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 12:12am

Quoted from "phatmandrake;486479"

M/W got hit the hardest ;-; all we had was our burst period :(....



mages got hurt real bad lol
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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 12:13am

Quoted from "emoguy2003;486461"

wanna solo then dont go priest. or use ur secondary skills /r SS, /k HS or disarm, /w Slash, /s Vamp arrow/shot


Anything intelligent you might have said went down the drain with this. I'm just letting you know.
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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 12:14am

well get a sword n start whackin at stuff. kill faster than healing em to death lol
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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 12:15am

Quoted from "emoguy2003;486483"

mages got hurt real bad lol


Very true, I say M/W specifically because our abilties sacrificed sustain and survivability for the ability to extend our burst period and maintain potentially the highest DPS output at the start of the fight, afterwords we drop off kinda hard :s relative to other class combos who have double hitting instants. Now we just kinda go maraanh...
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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 12:20am

Quoted from "emoguy2003;486485"

well get a sword n start whackin at stuff. kill faster than healing em to death lol


I admit, I did not think you could show any more ignorance than you already had. You proved me wrong.
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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 12:21am

yup lol sucks for mages.
esp m/w like u said.
but were talking about priesties :)

apparelty its ok for them to QQ n voice there opinion but for me to voice mine its a sin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

haha makes me wanna start trolling
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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 12:41am

Quoted from "emoguy2003;486489"

yup lol sucks for mages.
esp m/w like u said.
but were talking about priesties :)

apparelty its ok for them to QQ n voice there opinion but for me to voice mine its a sin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

haha makes me wanna start trolling


We don't tell you how to play your class, so don't tell us how to play ours.

And I agree with BJHawk. Your ignorance is astounding.

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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 12:48am

did i say how to play ur class?

or did i say how i think the class should be changed?

isnt that what this thread is about. how u wanna see ur class


or is it about QQ thread cuz u can sit n spam a button no more.

like knights when they nerfed agro on HS or scouts shot got nerfed or r/k disarm.

more QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ cuz u cant take the easy road.


instead of QQing how about more ideas on how to fix the class without changing the gcd. ? ? ?
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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 12:52am

ideas like

lower the cast time 1 second on heals to compemsate

change up the skill Heal so it has a purpose

make wisdom do something so u can increase your heals thru mods as well as gear. so you can find your own balance to healing power.

increase the damage of the few atks that you do have.

make hots stronger or % based hots.

im sure there 100 other things they can do to make make priest stronger without changing the GCD.

u know its coming. all other classes had changes make in ch4 to where they had to relearn there class.

warden completely new, druids got a change to NP, agro went crazy making tanks regear, scouts have entire new rotations, old scouts QQ n rolled r/s had to learn how to play that class, mages been changed to new roations/buffs only to get nerfed again..... lol didnt u expect some major changes to happen?


or u can sit here n QQ n compain
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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 1:40am

I popped all my CD's... didn't notice any difference. Nothing seems different for an R/S except shot is now OP and will start using crossbows since now theres no CD lolol


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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 2:16am

Quoted from "emoguy2003;486461"

since when are priest meant to dps?

your job is to heal. thats it. wanna solo then dont go priest. or use ur secondary skills /r SS, /k HS or disarm, /w Slash, /s Vamp arrow/shot

Knights are meant to tank. thats it.

Dps are meant to atk things.

Mages apparently are only meant for trash and/or be a novelty item. :(


and im not trollling im giving my opinion on how priest class should be.

plus iunno whats wrong with ur healers cuz my healers doesnt seem to bother them when running GCH.... ppl still alive. bosses still die. they pay a little more attention butttt other than that they dont notice it. they stopped QQ ing once they started runnign and using there skillls and seen its not that bad.


MY job is to play the game however I feel like. Your opinion is as useful as mud filled Underwear. Keep it to yourself sparky.

You are an illiterate troll. I cant read the incoherent gibberish you spout.
Evaluate what you are doing and denying in the same sentence. I have no use for you. Why are you Trolling this thread ?

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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 2:24am

Quoted from "emoguy2003;486497"

ideas like

lower the cast time 1 second on heals to compemsate

change up the skill Heal so it has a purpose

make wisdom do something so u can increase your heals thru mods as well as gear. so you can find your own balance to healing power.

increase the damage of the few atks that you do have.

make hots stronger or % based hots.

im sure there 100 other things they can do to make make priest stronger without changing the GCD.

u know its coming. all other classes had changes make in ch4 to where they had to relearn there class.

warden completely new, druids got a change to NP, agro went crazy making tanks regear, scouts have entire new rotations, old scouts QQ n rolled r/s had to learn how to play that class, mages been changed to new roations/buffs only to get nerfed again..... lol didnt u expect some major changes to happen?


or u can sit here n QQ n compain



Did I expect major changes? Yes.

But did I expect them to be all nerfs? No.

And yet that's all we have gotten. Nerf after nerf after nerf, while other classes get improved, aside from knights. If they had honestly changed some priest skills to reflect the GCD changes, fine, okay, I don't think many priests would be pissed. But Heal is still useless. Regenerate is even more useless. All our set skills are still useless. Group Heal is now a 4 second skill, without cast time buffs, and Urgent Heal is 2 seconds. These are our two heals, right there, and they got nerfed. They didn't increase the power of these heals to compensate for the somewhat lengthy gaps in between heals. They left them as they are, and slapped cooldowns on the end of them. All we got is nerfed.

We've been suggesting changes to the priest class for over a year. The only positive fix we ever had was to GH. Everything else got ignored, and you want us to sit here and suggest the same things we have said in threads every few months now?

No, if they wanted to compensate for the total mockery they've made of priests with this patch, they would have. They didn't. Instead, they left the class gimped with yet another nerf.

Saying "well they should do this, so you see, you really have no reason to QQ" is pretty illogical when there has been no implication of priests ever getting the balance we have needed for a very long time--why should we expect it now, when they released the nerf of all nerfs and did nothing to help soften the blow? And furthermore, saying we just need to learn a new rotation, when useless skills are still useless and we still only have two actually good heals...what kind of rotation are you wishing we'd learn, here? Don't compare us with scouts or mages or wardens or anyone else. As of chapter 4, previous to this patch: Mages got improved. Wardens got improved. Scouts have many buffed skills to fall back on, even if the class itself was taken down a little too far in power. Druids got improved. Warriors got improved. Rogues got improved (which wasn't necessary, really). What have priests gotten? Nerfed.

When scouts got nerfed due to being a one-button class, they had other skills buffed. They have MANY viable skills now to use, and a well-geared scout can keep up quite easily with other classes. Priests got a GH nerf--sure, okay, it was somewhat needed. But where are the fixes for other skills? Where are the buffs to skills that no one has used in several years due to them being completely obsolete with current content? We didn't get any. Imagine how many more players would have quit if RW had done nothing to buff useless scout skills (i.e. VA, Snipe), and just outright nerfed them. Sound fair? Don't think so.

This nerf will probably be the last straw for a lot of priests, and not because we want to take the "easy" road (because believe me, it's very challenging for us to use the multitude of nonexistent useful heals you seem to think we have), but because we have been nerfed nonstop without a single buff. Even the mediocre set skills (Frost Scar, Altar of Shadoj) got nerfed, after being fixed. There comes a time when enough is enough.

Call it QQ, but we have good reason for it, and don't presume to know how to play a class you obviously have never tried.

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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 2:33am

Said. Done. Finito.

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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 2:42am

Do people honestly think about these posts before they post them? I want to see a raise of hands: How many people have actually played a priest? How many have played one for more then 2 months? And How many of you are just trolls? I'm very positive I know the answer to that question.

Go play a priest, get it to endgame, gear and group, and then heal the new instance sucessfully. I know I can't do it, Gwen can't do it, Minx and Ismelle can't do it. We couldn't do it together, whereas we could do it seperately or together before this patch. That's GOT to tell you something, because we're all endgame priests and druids and we're all in Valkyrie. If you still don't believe me, go ask your priest to heal you in a 6-man. See how much you die.

As to the "this is your job", you're just sounding idiotic. Warriors are dps, correct? Yet they can tank. Knights are tanks, correct? Yet I can die to one in siege war because they can dps. Wardens? Well no one knows what the hell they are. Mages? They're dps, yet if you're /p you can heal too. Just because I'm a priest doesn't mean I should just be healing when every other class has versatility. Since when is that fair? if you're a knight, and suddenly they take away your ability to do damage, and it takes you five minutes to kill one mob, how much are you going to qq? I'd say a lot.
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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 2:49am

I've talked to at least 4 priests, 2 druids. They said it is just an annoyance, something to get used to for sure. Nothing more.


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