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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 3:18am

@sabrione sounds like u need better healers then. besides who expects to walk into new instance 1st day n start clearing? if u could do that this game would be more fail then ever.
if tank cant live more than 2 seconds without a heal, even better 4 healers thats half a second between heals then ur tanks are pretty fail too. FYI overgearing for an insance so u can just roflstomp thru it doesnt make u a good player. makes u geared player that all.

@BuzzSnapper ur comment goes right back at ya lol.

@effervescent then just quit? if neone has the right to QQ its the mages. not the healers. they got it 100 times worse then priest.

but if u want a thread for feedback give it. this isnt one of those.
this is priest QQing. Wonder why they havent got buffs? maybe the class was overpowered as is.
even with all the buffs other classes got its still very hard to kill a p/k thats well geared.
GOOOD healers i ran with are still more than capable of healiing the instance. yes takes a lil more concentration. yes ppl cant be messing around/afk/running ahead of tank/tank gotta pay attn to argo n trash/heals gotta be timed better but not impossible. not that diffucult after a few runs they barley notice it.


but ok give priest a non gcd skill with no cast that insta heals all players in the raid witha 10sec immune? lol will that make u a balanced class?
GCH was to easy an instance. but thats my opinion.
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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 3:29am

Quoted from "sabrione;486514"

Go play a priest, get it to endgame, gear and group, and then heal the new instance sucessfully. I know I can't do it, Gwen can't do it, Minx and Ismelle can't do it. We couldn't do it together, whereas we could do it seperately or together before this patch. That's GOT to tell you something, because we're all endgame priests and druids and we're all in Valkyrie. If you still don't believe me, go ask your priest to heal you in a 6-man. See how much you die.


I can't do it?! LOL! :) Of course I can't do it. I'm a Warden. Oh! You meant another Gwen. How silly of me!

On topic: WE HATES THE HOBBITS er, I mean the GCD! It messes up the melee check for DIYCE, wrecks my macros, and slows down my Frantic Briar (it's more of a Sluggish Briar now), and just generally irritates me. Can I live with it? Sure. Do I want to? NO. Just fix the mechanics of individual spells. What was need was a laser scalpel. What was applied was a shotgun.

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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 7:57am

Quick solution for anyone as irritated at listening to an idiotard as I am...

Click this link, click the yes button, enjoy the silence.

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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 8:50am

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@sabrione sounds like u need better healers then. besides who expects to walk into new instance 1st day n start clearing? if u could do that this game would be more fail then ever.
if tank cant live more than 2 seconds without a heal, even better 4 healers thats half a second between heals then ur tanks are pretty fail too. FYI overgearing for an insance so u can just roflstomp thru it doesnt make u a good player. makes u geared player that all.


We're some of the best healer on the server. Did you not understand that the first time? Again, learn2read. We don't expect to walk right in and start clearing, we're not stupid. Trust me, I've had my fair share of deaths trying to learn to clear things. And our tank can survive, thank you; he's not a fail tank. But that stuff hits damn hard, even on a tank. And it's not just single target, it's aoe. 12 people, 4 priest (or less) and they're focused solely on the tank. DPS is dead too, so there's no point. Try again.

By the way, in case you didn't recall, we weren't the first to clear GCH. We weren't overgeared for the instance, we didn't have the gear to do it in the first place. So no dear, we're not over-geared to roflstomp. We're not in RoM to roflstomp anything but siege.
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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 9:13am

Quoted from "sabrione;486653"

We're some of the best healer on the server. Did you not understand that the first time? Again, learn2read. We don't expect to walk right in and start clearing, we're not stupid. Trust me, I've had my fair share of deaths trying to learn to clear things. And our tank can survive, thank you; he's not a fail tank. But that stuff hits damn hard, even on a tank. And it's not just single target, it's aoe. 12 people, 4 priest (or less) and they're focused solely on the tank. DPS is dead too, so there's no point. Try again.

By the way, in case you didn't recall, we weren't the first to clear GCH. We weren't overgeared for the instance, we didn't have the gear to do it in the first place. So no dear, we're not over-geared to roflstomp. We're not in RoM to roflstomp anything but siege.


We should honestly just stop feeding this very obvious troll. I think it's blatantly obvious that this idiotard has never played a Priest at endgame, and has no idea what he's talking about.

And Ghostwolf, that made me, quite literally, L.O.L.
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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 9:28am

Yeeeeahhhhh, I knew someone would love it! hehehe! I'm an evil one I am!

I'm just waiting on emoguy to click the link and ignore himself!

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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 9:31am

Quoted from "ghostwolf82;486687"

Yeeeeahhhhh, I knew someone would love it! hehehe! I'm an evil one I am!

I'm just waiting on emoguy to click the link and ignore himself!


Muawhahahahaha. See I personally have issues with things such as the blacklist and the ignore function, cause if I do that to someone, how will I know what terrible (true...) things they are saying about me? It's a vicious circle... you blacklist them to get away from them but then you wonder what they're saying about you. MAKE IT STOP!
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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 10:11am

I agree with all casters. It will be very hard or not even possible to heal group in instances with 1sec GCD after skill use when boss hits so hard in such fraction of second. It has to be changed back or atleast 1sec GCD should start with the skill use not after using skill.

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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 10:30am

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We should honestly just stop feeding this very obvious troll. I think it's blatantly obvious that this idiotard has never played a Priest at endgame, and has no idea what he's talking about.


Very true... I'm just stubborn and obnoxious >.> sorry lol
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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 10:33am

Quoted from "sabrione;486734"

Very true... I'm just stubborn and obnoxious >.> sorry lol


Hehe. I know, trolls are fun, but... we must let them die. Alone. :P
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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 12:23pm

I think the global cooldown should be removed for casters. I have been a rogue since chapter 3, it did not affect me from what i can tell. I have played casters and can tell you that this is almost as bad as the %mana cost retarded solution they came up with. This changed actually improved a x/scout slightly, but would willingly have it removed because it gimped casters.

There is no since in a non-caster telling a caster how to play there class. There are only 3 viable skills a healer has; Uh, GH and Soulsource. Has been that way for ages. Heal is broken and useless. So you can't tell casters to learn a new rotation. Wisdom does so little to improve healing that you can't tell a healer to stat more wisdom, all it does is add to mana pool and gimp them on stats that are more valuable to them (yes stam/def and stam/hp).

Even thoug I am a dps you can look at any of my past posts and see that I speak out against anything that has been done to nerf the caster and tank because I feel they get shafted more than any other class in the game. Knights got a very subtle improvement, mages got a huge improvement (which is now negated), but healers have got the shaft all through this class balance. From what I have seen in scruts all dps are viable and they have actually done a good job on balance but they have failed on healers because all they have got are nerfs.

All you trolls go roll a healer (priest or druid) and level one up to end game then tell them how easy this class is and tell them what they are doing wrong. Other wise keep your negative criticism to yourself.

I apologize for the comments made by my fellow dps to all the casters. Emoguy give them a break, how can you tell them everything was too easy and Grafu hardmode was too easy when we have not taken down Annelia yet. And don't take him too serious, he is a hilarious guy who is just having fun people, I think he is actually trying to relay to RW how to fix this crap.

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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 12:55pm

Wow, I've been looking for p.o.'d mages all day in the mage forums and somehow all the casters (and a trollllll! in the dungeoooooons!!!) seem to be hanging out in here o.O

Emotroll is emo. In such an ignorant way that it's unintentionally hilarious.

Anyway, solidarity, healers! GCD is the freaking pits. Maybe they'll ignore the magerage and actually listen to you guys.

Apparently no one but a few thoughtful people, a troll and a few endgame mages think mages are screwed. At least most healers seem to be aware that the whole game is in big ass trouble.

Anyone who thinks healing is easy has never ever ever had a healing toon in this game. I am m/p/s, and my few forays in the healing biz have been disastrous and lolworthy. I have the utmost respect for you guys (except gigilomann, he's a nab). Seriously, the GCD is least-thought out change Runefroggy has ever implemented, and if sabrione and company feel like it's enough to make them quit... who the heck do we think is gonna come heal us?

Mages can quit in droves and the melee can sit there and feel satisfied with themselves if they choose to. If the healers leave we're all screwed. Nuff said.

Anyway, put me square in the "I'm quitting if they don't fix this" column.
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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 3:34pm

lolol.ol.olol thats funny ghost

im not dumb enough to click links in other ppls posts esp whenu hover over it and it says ignore in the address

anyways i triedddd offering suggestion to help u guys out

u dont listen or try for suggestions so what else to do?????

QQing non stop about a change with no suggestion to fix? that rarely ever works. esp now that RW changes are meant to "reinvent" the classes and how there played as Swag stated many many times.

sabrione saying "We're some of the best healer on the server. Did you not understand that the first time? "

did u not hear me the 1st time? OBV u need better healers then.

comeon you are setting urself up for this stuff....

silverjeff how is it not easy when its a 10sec burn on all but 2 bosses? lol and 4th is a burn after 1 hat phase.
Annelia however is the healers worst nightmare. if there was a boss like that for each class in an instance like a boss that has the tank kiting the whole fight with major single target hits making constant use of there Shieldx skills that goes immune every 3 seconds for 3 seconds lol a boss thats immune to phy damage(insta need for mages), a boss that swaps ur primary and seconrdy classes when u enter the room randomly making u kno how to play 2 classes lololol

haha now thatd be a hard instance.
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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 3:42pm

Quoted from "emoguy2003;486961"

lolol.ol.olol thats funny ghost

im not dumb enough to click links in other ppls posts esp whenu hover over it and it says ignore in the address


anyways i triedddd offering suggestion to help u guys out

u dont listen or try for suggestions so what else to do?????



sabrione saying "We're some of the best healer on the server. Did you not understand that the first time? "

did u not hear me the 1st time? OBV u need better healers then.


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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 4:03pm

Quoted from "turboreaper666;486974"

Holds the exit door open for ^^ that guy.

Bye....the pleasures been all yours



very doubtful mr DPS priest

page already open.

and unless i see some actaul suggestion on what changes needed to make the class better

make more skills useful!

or keep QQing, dont give useful keep back, let rw use there imagantion to fix it (lol) and ill just stay here

chatting with my new healer friend :)
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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 5:08pm

Quoted from "silverjeff;486816"



All you trolls go roll a healer (priest or druid) and level one up to end game then tell them how easy this class is and tell them what they are doing wrong. Other wise keep your negative criticism to yourself.

I apologize for the comments made by my fellow dps to all the casters. Emoguy give them a break, how can you tell them everything was too easy and Grafu hardmode was too easy when we have not taken down Annelia yet. And don't take him too serious, he is a hilarious guy who is just having fun people, I think he is actually trying to relay to RW how to fix this crap.


Who says YOU get to set the bar at endgame ? The class is unplayable at lvl 1. How hard is that to understand ? We are trying to telll them. That is what this thread was until it was hijacked by your troll buddy. So don't you dare presume to tell us or me anything.

I have a L 55 Priest thats a total useless gimp now. Infact its gimping allowed me to make the firm decision to never spend another penny on this game.

2nd paragraph. Why are you apologizing for an illiterate troll ? NEVER carry another mans water. Whats he to you ? A guild mate who feeds you crumbs ? If he is the one who has RW's ear then that explains why this game is on the short ride to failure.

Anyhow, you and he have no business here.

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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 5:12pm

Quoted from "emoguy2003;487000"



and unless i see some actaul suggestion on what changes needed to make the class better



As was mentioned before, the priests have been giving suggestions on how to improve our class

http://forum.us.runesofmagic.com/showthread.php?t=60431

and

http://forum.us.runesofmagic.com/showthread.php?t=53593

We have been asking that some of our useless skills be changed, and suggestions have been given.

As has been mentioned before you obviously don't/haven't played a healing class, nor have a healer's mentality. I take it personally for every person that dies on my watch. I feel guilty when someone goes down even if it's their fault. So yeah with the GCD it's gonna be twice as hard to run stuff. Some of it is adaptable, some isn't. The concept of playing the game is to have fun. When I stop having fun I'll stop playing. For every extra person who dies because of that 1 sec cooldown I want to play less and less. :(

The way you present it the only people that should be in the higher instances are those that are already OP/Ubah/Imba etc...who probably don't even need the gear. If they don't need it, and can clear it that easily then what is the point? It's supposed to be a challenge, and most of the people I know accept that. Making it dang near impossible for anyone who doesn't have all their gear T7 and buy their stuff from the AH for 100's of millions of dollars rather than earning it in the instance run just seems pretty ridiculous.

I'll just suggest you should hope your priests don't get fed up with the GCD or you and quit cuz you might have a hard time finding anyone else to put up with you. I notice your "signature" just states the levels of your character, not the classes nor your name or server. I haven't set up a sig line because I don't post here often but just had to on this.

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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 7:10pm

GCD is general BS

GCD has handicapped my mage so badly I am boycotting this game until they change this back to the way it was. I have spent over a thousand dollars on my toon and 6 months of my time. To have them handicap my toon so badly its disgusting. It was fine the way things were I was not out of perportion in power in any sw or instance. Why they have cut me at the knees is baffling to me. Evidently no one at frogster plays mage class cause they would immediately see the error of this decision. I am going to stop playing as well as 10's of thousands of other spell casters that are tired of frogster screwing us over.
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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 7:20pm

Another reason for leaving the game :S

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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 7:30pm

Quoted from "tulsenaca;487057"

As was mentioned before, the priests have been giving suggestions on how to improve our class

http://forum.us.runesofmagic.com/showthread.php?t=60431

and

http://forum.us.runesofmagic.com/showthread.php?t=53593

We have been asking that some of our useless skills be changed, and suggestions have been given.

As has been mentioned before you obviously don't/haven't played a healing class, nor have a healer's mentality. I take it personally for every person that dies on my watch. I feel guilty when someone goes down even if it's their fault. So yeah with the GCD it's gonna be twice as hard to run stuff. Some of it is adaptable, some isn't. The concept of playing the game is to have fun. When I stop having fun I'll stop playing. For every extra person who dies because of that 1 sec cooldown I want to play less and less. :(

The way you present it the only people that should be in the higher instances are those that are already OP/Ubah/Imba etc...who probably don't even need the gear. If they don't need it, and can clear it that easily then what is the point? It's supposed to be a challenge, and most of the people I know accept that. Making it dang near impossible for anyone who doesn't have all their gear T7 and buy their stuff from the AH for 100's of millions of dollars rather than earning it in the instance run just seems pretty ridiculous.

I'll just suggest you should hope your priests don't get fed up with the GCD or you and quit cuz you might have a hard time finding anyone else to put up with you. I notice your "signature" just states the levels of your character, not the classes nor your name or server. I haven't set up a sig line because I don't post here often but just had to on this.

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ummm thats the point. if every half geared player running around could farm endgame instance there wouldnt be a point to anything.

top 1% runs endgame currenty GCH /new instnace hardmode
25% maybe in sardo/rt dia
everyone else below that.
gives ppl a reason to strive to be better
gives top 1% a reason to being that top 1%
makes people spend money.
keeps ingame economy flowing.

y u think ch3 was such a joke?

scouts spamming 1 button, tanks didnt ahve to worry about agro everyone was a scout with neg agro, healers only had to spam GH.
no point in the game when its like that.

and i dont put my info in sig cuz it doesnt matter. who you are doesnt make you right. I am endgame player but does that mean my opinion should mean more of less than that of someone who isnt?


@Buzzsnapper you obv have less experience at playing a priest then i do. unplayable at level 1? no, priest can still heal its just harder. Endgame sets the bar cuz thats how the game works. make it good for a lvl 50 means its seriously OP at level 70. again ruins the game when everything is just tank n spank from the start. personally u talk like u have any experience in running instances as a priest much less healing a party.

@Bardicunderlord yes a mage should be QQing right now. u guys got hit horrible. not these silly healers.
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