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pft..half the time we ran without a tank or healer. 6 scout diamond was stupid easy and at least something different.

problem is, that chapter killed rom. people having to see fights where everyones involvement mattered had a stroke.

we were just recovering well...everyone had a place. then they balanced us to back a chapter.

its all ur fault Pazazzu

they seen what u were doin as a mage and RW said whoa! NERF MAGES THEY OP!

Fandreith, I read your post about the past and future of the Mage class. Priests have a different past, but the same bleak future. I was just making my first incursion into Limo when Chapter 4 was released, so I'd only healed as high as ZS/HoDL when GH and HCS were nerfed. Since I didn't use either often, it didn't affect me, but I saw a need for a bubble once I started entering some of the harder modes in RT. People whose lives had no doubt been saved by HCS and GH, said we need to lrn2play and stop relying on one or two skills. Ah well, giving life selflessly is what we do. We were asked TWICE for feedback for the Chapter 4 Class balancing, and we filled pages with suggestions. To this day, not ONE of all our suggestions has been implemented, discussed, or even mentioned in passing.

Druids were buffed to on-par with Priests as healers, but then Priests got nerfed lower. Druids had better DPS than Priests, and now they (certain combos at least) have better healing ability too. I know a lot about my class, and how to heal, but I've been passed over for runs, because they needed a Druid. I'm ok with 1 Druid+1 Priest being better than 2 Priests. That is the way it should be, in my opinion. But it seems that two Druids is better than two Priests, which is NOT the way it should be.

Essentially, I'm a relic. P/K is the WORST dps in game. The only class combo that can compare to how bad we are, is our reciprocal, K/P. P/K is boring to play, and hard to level, but we had one redeeming quality. P/K was THE best healer in game. Now we're still bottom DPS, but only somewhere in the top 3 or 4 for best healer.

All classes were hit by the GCD nerf, no exceptions. Anyone who says otherwise, either hasn't played, or never pays attention to their skill anyway. Ranged classes were hit harder than melee, and casters were hit hardest. Among casters, Priests are not necessarily hit any harder than Mages or Druids, but the difference is, Priests were already down. Mages and Druids were underdogs, then were buffed up, and now nerfed back down. Priests were moderately balanced, then were nerfed, then smacked with this. Since I started playing, Priests have been getting the short end with every patch. The only exception is the third class. It's sad when the best option a Priest has been given, is the ability to no longer be a Priest. If I have to give up on my P/K, I'd just as soon quit the game. I've worked much too hard leveling and gearing this character to reroll.

well BJhawk you are a higher levvel at lower level instnaces. class combos are not accurate like that. a single skill or piece of gear makes 1 class spremely better over another. seriously go play a warrior at lvl 1 compared to a priest at lvl 1 and a priest WILL out dps the warrior. warriors have 0 atks other than white hit a mob till they pick up a secondary class. then they only rely on seconardy attacks for all there damage outside an instance which dotn start till what clops at 45??

WArrior and knights have a ton of improvements that could be made to there class. they have been listed 1000 times in the threads as well but it doesnt happen. RW does what RW wants. "listen and give feedback to programmers" HAHAA it dont happen.

if u go to GCH right now you would not take 2 druids over a p/k. maybe 1druid n 1priest or 2 priest. def not 2 druids with 0 priest.

and u cannot compare a mage and a priest in comparison when talking about this gcd. mages got it 100 times worse. they are actaully less dps now then back in ch3. even being 8 levels higher and way better geared.

priest were way OP before there nerfs. you talk as if u were ok at healing before this started. They were 5x better then a druid.
ok druids got a nice buff now there only .5 as good as a priest. so they take away priest bubble and GH now priest are only .25 better than a druid. now with GCD maybe a druid healer can heal the same as a priest? that sounds like a balance. druids were pointless before except for buffs. now there lookin at being a playable class. Priest will never be useless. any heal is better than 0 heals. will people have to run instances differently? yup. will people have to pay attn healers and dps to whats goin on around them? yup. will tanks have to actually tank n become more aware of adds/attacks? yup. does it make instnaces completely impossible now? no . will it make priest obsolete... not in a million year.

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and u cannot compare a mage and a priest in comparison when talking about this gcd. mages got it 100 times worse. they are actaully less dps now then back in ch3. even being 8 levels higher and way better geared.

S/he may not be able to, but I can. They got hit equally, and I know because I play both. They're both less dps and solo-ability, and priests are now nerfed to hell. End of story unless you can prove to me you've played a priest as long as some of these people here. Go troll elsewhere.

As to your absurd druid comment.. I've been favoured over many druids. In our GCH runs, often times we had 3 druids and 1-2 priests. Druids have been better then priests for a long while. I forget which class it is, but I believe a d/w has a buff better then AA. They have Savage Blessing, the wisdom buff, and a couple others depending on the class. They have a 12-man healing "aoe" with no mana drain added on. They have dots and single heals. Need I continue? Fact is, druids are better then priests and have been for a little while. I've run all end-game content and seen that for myself.

Oh, and dear, before you diss My healers and My toon, run with us first. See if you die because you're not getting heals. Go troll somewhere else.

lol from the sounds of your healers i prolly will die in your groups


druids got buffs. reason they come. i havnet seen a druid yet that could come close to healing as well as a good p/k.

and u can compare losing 1 sec on urgent heal to trippling the cast time a mage has buring a burns thats just insane.

if your that bad at healing that this has effected you that much then reroll. obv UH seems to be the only skill your using.

healers in our guild have ran and they still heal us and we still dont die. ppl dont stay 100% hp all the time but they dont die. and thats what counts.
and thats after your "priest killing nerf"

and we dont run with 4 healers we run with 2 priest and a druid most of the time. lol and they druid doesnt even heal 90% of the time just comes to buff people lol and he jumps in circles alot if that counts?

cuz ur in a hardmode run doesnt make u a good player. we can 6man 1-6 GCH. we we have 12 noramlly atleast 5 of the 12 are just being carried. but there not doing much of anythign that actaully counts.

I'm higher level, at lower level instances? Right... because I was running GCN and GCHM, but I was level 67, in a 65 instance. You still don't know what you're talking about. And as to Druid vs. Priest, I don't need to argue it, I'm just saying what happens. A Druid is consistently chosen over a Priest, even in a few cases where I've slightly outgeared the Druid.

And yes, I CAN compare the affects of GCD between Priests and Mages. Mages lost ~66% DPS in burn phase, and some 30-35% unbuffed. I'm guessing at the latter, as I don't know what skills mages use unbuffed. Mostly I just see T-storm. Anyway, the Mage burn phase was also shortened, due to GCD between buffs, and this further decreased damage. Priests lost 50% HPS unbuffed, and somewhere between 30-60% HPS buffed, depending on how buffed, and how much a Priest uses GH. Basically, it hurts Priests less to spam GH more. Balanced, huh? Fixed, huh? More skill, huh?

Where I used to use 2-3 UHs, and throw regens on the whole party between occasional GHs (and a Bone Chill, because... well... just because), my 'rotation' now would be UH>GH>UH>GH. Throwing other spells in there will just decrease my heals, and a GH will do more for the tank in less time than an UH spam. The more we buff cast times, the more true this becomes. In fact, I only throw in the UH because the time it takes to cast an UH will prevent the GH debuff. Heals might actually be better to just wait 1s between every GH, or cast a Regen, instead of UH. I know mages are writhing over this GCD, but it also nerfed Priests to hell, say what you will.

First you say Priests are supposed to stat ALL Wis to "squeeze every last drop" out of their heals, and now you're saying Priests out-dps Warriors? I don't even know where you're trying to go with your disconnected stream of ignorant nonsense. Level 1 Priest vs. Level 1 Warrior, yes, the Priest will out-dps the Warrior against a single Fungi in Pioneer Colony . So the one class you can compare us to is a terribly broken class, and even that comparison ends at level 10. You just made my point for me.

again... if druids are getting picked over a priest for heals.


obv somethign wrong with ur heals.

besides u dont use 100% of the heals you throw out anyways.

10k hit on tank 50k UH, 20k hit on tank 50k UH

now its a 10k hit + 20k hit on tank and 1 50k UH....

ONLY rarely ever did i get hit more than that as a tank except on trash were i was taking maybe 15k-20k damage per second.
with regens/bubbles/damage reduction there no reason tank should die unless either your tanks are really bad at tanking or are stating all hp

12 man group, 4 p/ks that means there are only 8 ppl to heal cuz p/k heal themseleves when casting UH. sooo if 1 is solo on tank the tank should nvr die. that leave 3 priest to heal 7 dps who are only taking damage on AOEs. rotating GH this is still WAY more heals than needed in a run. thats 2 ppl per healer meaning that 2 UHs and every dps is at full health this isnt nethign out there that does aoes every 4 seconds... how is this hard? are you upset you cannot farm the AH while healing nemore?

i think this will just seperate good healers from the bad ones and the good tanks from the bad ones.

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Enjoy!

well my healers have no problems adjusting to this.

cant tell a change even happened.


whats that say about you?

nothign worse then sum half heared nubs trying to tell RW what needs to be done. you only opinion is omg everything is too hard i have to spam more than 1 button please make it easier. instead of playing your class properly.

that ruined ch3(along with all the playeers that came to this game and geared during that) and will ruin the game again.

but i guess learning to heal endgame back before Hoto days when it was HARD to heal will make u l2p ur class. Difference between good healers and you guys

do you not read at all?
really ive said it like 4 times now

YOU HAVE MORE THAN 2 HEALS!

RW need to make the other heals you have more useful

Heal/Regens ect ect

MAke wisdom more effective so healer have something to stat that will increase there heals.

instead of taking off GCD lower cast time on heals 1 second
make UH instant cast but add a debuff so you cant spam it non stop like GH.

in other words Heal should be primary heal, GH after aoes, UH if someone takes a big hit, Regen heal at a % of target HP so its useful. nothing on anyclass should be a 1-2 buttom spam.

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well my healers have no problems adjusting to this.

cant tell a change even happened.


whats that say about you?

nothing worse then sum half heared nubs trying to tell RW what needs to be done. you only opinion is omg everything is too hard i have to spam more than 1 button please make it easier. instead of playing your class properly.

that ruined ch3(along with all the playeers that came to this game and geared during that) and will ruin the game again.

but i guess learning to heal endgame back before Hoto days when it was HARD to heal will make u l2p ur class. Difference between good healers and you guys

You have pretty much confirmed you you have no clue, nor business posting in this thread. You have nothing knowledgeable, useful or anything that even remotely resembles experience on how a Priest plays the class.

You are out of your element here, and you should have stayed out of it.

You have no business calling anyone in a Priest thread, on a Priest topic, nubs when they play the class and you don't. Your the Nub here...and it shows.

You have shown to most that you think this game and the players that you play with are there for you. You not only have zero experience on playing a Priest class but you have the etiquette and mind set of a spoiled 15 year old.

That is the last bit of Troll food you get.

Now run along.......grown ups are talking here.

says the "dps" priest.

i dont have to play priest to know that if party dies cuz priest cant heal when other healers can then obv ur a bad priest.

call it as i see it.


btw where your suggestion to fixing priest in these threads other than QQ n rage cuz priest cant dps?

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says the "dps" priest.

i dont have to play priest to know that if party dies cuz priest cant heal when other healers can then obv ur a bad priest.

call it as i see it.


btw where your suggestion to fixing priest in these threads other than QQ n rage cuz priest cant dps?

look them up mr meat shield.....there are a few

im so glad you voiced the changes u want to see since the patch as much as you have complained....

oh wait.... u havent.

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im so glad you voiced the changes u want to see since the patch as much as you have complained....

oh wait.... u havent.

Oh Wait...I have....

http://forum.us.runesofmagic.com/showthread.php?t=66117

just add another tick to the "Your Wrong and out of your league" category

and your idea to fix the priest class is the remove gcd from what appears to be all skills you listed except for the buffs ?

And to Adjust Wisdom to be a Caster stat for Mages, Druids, & Priests. Have it effect these base stats in this order 1) Mana & Mdef, 2) Matk & Mana regen, 3) Healing / Healing Point Bonus


can i remove all the GCD from all the atks of a dps?

LOL

Holy Candle Shield (lvl 55)- Used to be worth while, although it did contribute to the boss burns in Chapter 3. Now it has become obsolete and normally doesn't even make it onto a Priests action bar anymore.
Negative - Nerfed into oblivion
Suggestions - Change the spell to block 80% of damage received by the Caster (Priest) and blocks 60% of damage taken by party members. Make it resist stuns. Leave the GCD on this spell, but do not have it share a timer with immunities (holy Aura) and immunity foods.

so u want a 6 sec HA/4sec candy and another 5sec 80% damage redution. and i assum in siege itll follow the 15sec fearless as well? and resist to stuns?