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turboreaper666

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Sunday, November 27th 2011, 12:35am

Quoted from "emoguy2003;487270"

and your idea to fix the priest class is the remove gcd from what appears to be all skills you listed except for the buffs ?

And to Adjust Wisdom to be a Caster stat for Mages, Druids, & Priests. Have it effect these base stats in this order 1) Mana & Mdef, 2) Matk & Mana regen, 3) Healing / Healing Point Bonus


can i remove all the GCD from all the atks of a dps?

LOL

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Suggestions - Change the spell to block 80% of damage received by the Caster (Priest) and blocks 60% of damage taken by party members. Make it resist stuns. Leave the GCD on this spell, but do not have it share a timer with immunities (holy Aura) and immunity foods.

so u want a 6 sec HA/4sec candy and another 5sec 80% damage redution. and i assum in siege itll follow the 15sec fearless as well? and resist to stuns?


You can't really be that stupid and remember to breath.

Read the next line little guy

"** Side Note ; All immunity foods and spells should share the same cool down."

See how that works....sorry no pop up pictures.

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Sunday, November 27th 2011, 12:46am

so your saying to not have them share Cds but to have them share Cds?

that doesnt make any since.

everythign in that post is saying that you want all your atks buffed and to atk without GCD. so you want priest to do more dps and non of that has anything to do with a priest class. the HEALING CLASS of rom.

you want a buff to your priest dps thats all cuz thats the class that you play. pretty selfish.

and u wanna talk to down to me??? LOL

id say just go mage but lol u prolly out dps them as a priest anyways.


lol you lost your appeal when u stopped selling diamonds.

edit: lol i can never look as foolish as a priest that thinks he can dps
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Sunday, November 27th 2011, 1:12am

Quoted from "emoguy2003;487279"

so your saying to not have them share Cds but to have them share Cds?

that doesnt make any since.

everythign in that post is saying that you want all your atks buffed and to atk without GCD. so you want priest to do more dps and non of that has anything to do with a priest class. the HEALING CLASS of rom.

you want a buff to your priest dps thats all cuz thats the class that you play. pretty selfish.

and u wanna talk to down to me??? LOL

id say just go mage but lol u prolly out dps them as a priest anyways.


lol you lost your appeal when u stopped selling diamonds.


I don't recall anything asking for DPS increases in any of that thread other then to make the set skills do what they are supposed to. I also have a P/K so the P/S is not the only class I play.......not to mention my alts.

I stated to have "Immunities" share cool downs, that includes foods, pots and HA. HCS is not an immunity it currently blocks "some" damage for the party but currently blocks no damage for the caster.

Casters share many similarities, and it should be left to the player to build a character how they want based on stats and their "fun" style of play. I have my fun being a DPS Priest, so that's not selfish. Trying to force my play style on others in game would be selfish....which is the category you fit into perfectly. Your the Melee in a Priest thread trying to push your play style on others....that's selfish.

I never talked down to you until you deserved it. Had you acted with more maturity in your posts instead of continuing to post in a thread that does not effect you. Calling veteran Players of a class nubs in the very thread designated for a class they play and you don't.

lmao...I have a good suspicion of who you are in the game now........Aren't you the one that has successfully killed 3 high end guilds because of the very play style you are preaching here. That would also make you the one that has previously asked me to come heal you in GCH, of which I wouldn't group with you because of your in game elitist attitude.
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Sunday, November 27th 2011, 1:31am

Try reading other forum posts

Quoted from "emoguy2003;487000"

very doubtful mr DPS priest

page already open.

and unless i see some actaul suggestion on what changes needed to make the class better

make more skills useful!

or keep QQing, dont give useful keep back, let rw use there imagantion to fix it (lol) and ill just stay here

chatting with my new healer friend :)


Try reading the feedback thread that Swag put up for all the classes - there's one for Priest with alot of useful "suggestions".
Nowhere did anyone suggest GCD for skills that already take forever to cast. There is no logical reason for gcd for priest (not getting into mage as this is a Priest thread).

It's obvious to me these changes were implemented to effect siege....may have looked good on paper (tissue paper) but even for siege (if and when we can get in, I don't see as it will make that area any better.

I'm with the rest of my felow healers - not spending another dime AND if not fixed taking my time AND $ elsewhere

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Sunday, November 27th 2011, 1:34am

i did vote to change it back, but i wouldnt get my hopes up :/...
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Sunday, November 27th 2011, 2:21am

Quoted from "cjfaces7;487300"


I'm with the rest of my felow healers - not spending another dime AND if not fixed taking my time AND $ elsewhere


I have decided, people should not spend money on a game that doesn't make their customers happy. Right now most casters are furious. This is due to the lack of testing and preparation from FA and RW. If you truly want to balance these classes out

1) STOP adding new content and events.
2) Find out everything that is wrong, ask the people that actually play the game.
3) Take their suggestions into consideration.
4) Code them into the game.

Now was that so hard?

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Sunday, November 27th 2011, 3:01am

FencerSuzuki has said it several times now:

Quoted from "FencerSuzuki;479074"

Guys, you know you can leave right?

You understand that there are a multitude of video games on the market which are better funded, developed, supported and philosophically superior to Runes of Magic? Which isn't even an opinion, like you can look up the budgets for just about any game IPO.

If you are a consumer of media, of any kind, the most important question you ask of yourself and your media is thus; "What am I getting for my time & money that I can't get better produced or cheaper in cost elsewhere?"

Make a statement with your wallets.



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Sunday, November 27th 2011, 3:08am

Just stop running instances. Want to get this change fixed? No healing. None. Siege maybe, but not instances. Strike.

This druid didn't get hit as hard as you guys, HoTs are our bread and butter, but my 2s heal casts are now 3. That's a 33% reduction in heal output right there and no, the HoT's do not heal people through RT and up.

No healers, no one runs instances. This might get fixed if the Tanks and melee classes start complaining as well as the casters.

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Sunday, November 27th 2011, 3:10am

what is what and the developers think hoestly its harder for me to do thing then it was even though i dont just stand ther spaming gh all the time not trying to be mean or anything. :mad::eek::(:confused::o plzoh plz ficx it back thank you

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Sunday, November 27th 2011, 3:29am

im about to close this tread if guys dont stop arguing.


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Sunday, November 27th 2011, 3:48am

Quoted from "Zeylon;487350"

im about to close this tread if guys dont stop arguing.


Fm Zeylon


The thread is technically supposed to be about what peoples opinions are about this change... but I agree. Stop feeding the troll guys. I wish there was a way to block a certain person from replying. >.<
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Sunday, November 27th 2011, 4:36am

I don't see anyone fighting.
There is a way to keep from getting replies from someone.

Both statements above are true if you click the link I provided earlier in this very thread.

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Sunday, November 27th 2011, 7:11am

I'm not a fail priest, and neither is anyone posting here, or anyone I run with. Thank you for being the first on my forum blacklist.

Honestly, ice blade already made everything go into GCD. So if that's why this was implimented, it already failed. That being said, I think the devs really should look into skills more, and not a quickfix bandaid. Here's your suggestion that we've apparently never provided before, btw, emodude who doesn't heal: Make Ice Blade have a 1 second solid cooldown. And Solid does not mean GCD. Or, if you're not happy with that, just decrease the range to 150. I can still kill you that way, but apprently it's more fair to you. Remove the GCD from heals and buffs. I can live with no GCD on those and one on everything else. That goes for both classes, by the way, not just priests.
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Sunday, November 27th 2011, 7:40am

Quoted from "sabrione;487430"

I'm not a fail priest, and neither is anyone posting here, or anyone I run with. Thank you for being the first on my forum blacklist.


Yep, if you don't play or do things exactly the way HE thinks you should, that automatically makes you fail. Makes total sense, right?

Let's get this topic back on... topic, please. If you don't feed the troll he will starve and die. And Zeylon, please don't close this thread just because of a single troll ruining it for the rest of us.
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Sunday, November 27th 2011, 10:33am

Living with 1 sec cd but game seems less enjoyable

Im living with the 1 second global cd but am hating it as a healer. The main issue for me and many other casters I talk to is the game now feels like its constantly lagging. With a 1 second, 2 second or 3 second cast i understand as i watch the cast bar that im doing something and waiting for it to accomplish its cast, but with the 1 second gcd that sometimes has my urgent heals go off one after the other, some 1/2 second later, some 1 second later, the game just feels laggy. If the game had something to work around it would be understandable. This patch may be desired by the developers but as a player it just seems like lag and more frustrating than challanging. Double the cast times, triple them Ill be much happier than having to spam hit my cast button after every cast just to try to get a cast off after a previous one.

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Sunday, November 27th 2011, 10:44am

Ok, I sifted through this trying to ignore the troll, and what I took away was that Priests in particular are facing the same sort of class extinction that mage is, with one big difference- you guys didn't get buffed at all last patch, so instead of mages OP>nerfed into oblivion>buffed to on par>nerfed back into oblivion pattern, you guys are dealing with OP>nerfed to par sort of>nerfed into oblivion. Lovely.

Which is probably every bit as bad and maybe worse :(

And the took all of your productive and well thought out feedback and circular filed it. Us too.

This game really has severe issues with casters of all classes. Not even that is really a strong enough statement, though, because the real problem they have is with every single class that uses mana. Warden and Knights both have ridiculous nerf histories, broken skills and mechanics too.

Wanna feel safe in RoM? Make sure your class uses no mana.


Now that I say that I remember poor warriors and scouts too, and I think maybe RoM just sucks period. Ghostwolf says that the only truly balanced class is rogues, so maybe we should all reroll rogue and do what BJ suggested and buy our healers in the cash shop. Or do what Fencer says and just find an MMO developed by a human with more than three functioning brain cells.
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Sunday, November 27th 2011, 11:10am

Quoted from "mnkmurphy885;487480"

Ok, I sifted through this trying to ignore the troll, and what I took away was that Priests in particular are facing the same sort of class extinction that mage is, with one big difference- you guys didn't get buffed at all last patch, so instead of mages OP>nerfed into oblivion>buffed to on par>nerfed back into oblivion pattern, you guys are dealing with OP>nerfed to par sort of>nerfed into oblivion. Lovely.

Which is probably every bit as bad and maybe worse :(

And the took all of your productive and well thought out feedback and circular filed it. Us too.

This game really has severe issues with casters of all classes. Not even that is really a strong enough statement, though, because the real problem they have is with every single class that uses mana. Warden and Knights both have ridiculous nerf histories, broken skills and mechanics too.

Wanna feel safe in RoM? Make sure your class uses no mana.


Now that I say that I remember poor warriors and scouts too, and I think maybe RoM just sucks period. Ghostwolf says that the only truly balanced class is rogues, so maybe we should all reroll rogue and do what BJ suggested and buy our healers in the cash shop. Or do what Fencer says and just find an MMO developed by a human with more than three functioning brain cells.


Exactly, with chapter 4, other classes have been improved and balanced. The only thing that Priests have gotten is nerf after nerf after nerf. Group heal nerf, holy candle shield nerf, and now this global cooldown nerf.

Why does RW hate Priests? I just don't get it.
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Sunday, November 27th 2011, 12:09pm

RW feels anything that prevents the use of phirius pots a cheat. So healers are cheats, so nerf healers = more pots used. :) ch. 4 is RW win!

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Sunday, November 27th 2011, 2:41pm

Honestly, I gave up on priests ever getting the balance we've needed for quite a long time. Druids definitely needed it more when ch4 appeared, and they did get it. They're viable now, and with skilled players, are amazing at healing.

I don't know what they planned to do with priests, or if the nerfs we've gotten were supposed to be the "priest balance." There has never been a patch specifically mentioned for balancing the priest class, though there has been one for every single other class.

Priests really are a dying class, and this nerf really puts the nail in the coffin for a lot of them. I haven't played in several months, due to the economy and a few other things, but I was thinking about coming back soon. This patch happened, and it made me realize that RW is always going to do these "fixes" to "fix" a few small things...which always end up screwing over the majority of the playerbase. They've done this time and time again, so much that it's proven to be a pattern for them. I have no hope of classes ever being truly balanced (more than just classes as a whole--I mean all class combos, which SHOULD be equally viable in different situations), or priests getting the multitude of useless skills rebalanced so that they're actually useful.

Which is why I logged on the night of the patch and, after experimenting some with the new GCD, gave away the majority of my gear, runes, and tier stones to friends and random people in Osha. I'm tired of waiting for priests to get fixed. It's been months, and not a single word of any possibility of a priest balance--just silence and more nerfs.

Every time they manage to balance a class (coughmages), they unbalance it all over again either by nerfing it or making it too OP. In this case, they've brought several classes back to chapter 3 standards. Making two DPS classes (mages/scouts, but more so mages) completely gimped in a single day, and both healer classes struggling to keep parties alive.

Maybe they'll turn this quickfix around, maybe they won't, but either way I won't be coming back. I hope RW can make the changes they need to in order to keep this game alive, but their past track record doesn't inspire much confidence.

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Sunday, November 27th 2011, 7:24pm

im only troling cuz noone is making suggestions in this thread and your just QQing. You have made suggestion in other thread maybe but not here? so why do you keep posting unless you just want to QQ. in which case name the thread "QQQQQQQQQQQQQQ"

read all of your post it either 'omg i cant do anything at all im complately useless now" or "undo what was did" or "priest keep getting nerfed when everyone else gets buffed /ragequit" what does that help?

IF RW undoes the GCD on your skills like before... then what?

you still have skills that are completely useless or skills that are very very little use and priest class will never have skills like Heal be useful.

and im only calling priest fail that say themselves are fail. IF you cannot heal at all anymore in an instance because of a GCD when cleaerly other priest can then its not the class that the problem.
if other priest can do it then the class isnt broke. if you cant do it as a priest then there is somthing wrong with how you play or the people that you are playing with that is preventing you from being like the other healers/groups running that are doing it.

@ sabrione thats what i have been saying this whole time there shouldnt be a quickfix the skills themsevles need to be changed so a priest has more at there disposal than UH and GH. removing GCD is just a quick fix and will not solve anything.

as for GCD on non heal skils like iceblade or rising tide or whatever there should be an GCD on all atks. there is a very good reason for this. Cast time cant be reduced to nothing. look at a mages .5sec flames... the only thing keeping a class from using 2-3 atks in 1 second is the GCD. Example is Warrior class. Supirse attack had no gcd but a CD and Tatical atk had no GCD but a CD on it. as a WArrior i would suprise atk/Slash/TA(TA hits 1 time for slash (up to 4)+ one for itself so a target with 4 slash bleeds could in a since get 7 atks from a single person in 1 second). on average atleast 3 hits in 1 gcd(supriseatk/tatical/1 gcd atk). a priest would be no differnt on there atks.
if u want then remove the 1sec cast on skills to make up for the GCD.


i strongly belive in the GCD for all skills. there should be no class that can use more than 1 skill per second.

tell me what do YOU think RW could do that could make the priest class a overall better class without removing the GCD?

Keeping in mind that priest and druid should be on equal grounds when healing.
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