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Sunday, November 27th 2011, 1:04am

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so with reflected shot and thorn arrow not giving global cd are we a shot spam class now? do you throw in combo shot still? i always go autoshot>combo shot>shoot spam>combo shot when it's up... anyone else?>

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Sunday, November 27th 2011, 1:19am

When I tried shot spam my dps went down

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Dont use reflected or piercing anymore

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Monday, November 28th 2011, 12:54pm

when i tried to use any other skill then shot, my dps went down. on full cooldown the shot x2 still hits harder then my maxed thorn arrow and even hidden peril so it makes sense to just spam shot. maybe im doing it wrong

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Monday, November 28th 2011, 10:40pm

Nah it's been confirmed. S/wd rotation is now comboshot>autoshot>shoot spam and if you have a s/r in the party vamp arrows before shoot. I didn't even put any tp into vamp arrow though still thinking about it.

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Tuesday, November 29th 2011, 10:38am

I dont understand why hidden peril and thorn arrow dont seem to do much more dmg than a regular shot would do even when they are at the same skill lvl.

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Tuesday, November 29th 2011, 3:39pm

So i tested this last night, and I believe the best rotation is autoshot>shot>shot>shot>shot> etc...

Pretty sad, but when I did that over weaving in combo shot and hidden peril, my total damage done almost doubled.

Thanks FA for making a class that took skill, into a class that has a rotation that is worse in ch 3. At least in ch 3, I could weave in combo shot.
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Tuesday, November 29th 2011, 6:18pm

Confirmed

Yes, I did about the same tests and spamming shot seems to do better dps than my regular rotation.

I reset my tp to max shot but i'm scared they will rebalance this (which in fact i hope) and i will need to reset again :-(

I do however insert Vampire Arrow and Combo Shot just after Autoshot to try to get the Wind Attack debuff on the boss, which seems to help. But I left out thorn attack, reflected shot, piercing arrow, etc.

-Sad S/Wd is Sad...

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Tuesday, November 29th 2011, 8:14pm

It's bc when you weave in comboshot... autoshot does not go off during this cast time. So it's actually better to hit shot instead giving off more attacks. Hidden peril isn't worth it bc snipe doesn't proc often enough and if it doesn't crit it's not worth it. I am gonna have to say at least our dps didn't drop, at least i didn't notice anything. It's just more boring to play now.

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Wednesday, November 30th 2011, 10:40pm

With new GCD. Spam autoshot and Shot, and you'll do best DPS a S/Wd can. Welcome back to Chap 3. lol
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Friday, December 2nd 2011, 3:15am

This only applys to s/wd right? Also, is it because they get an elite that makes shot (shoot) do more dmg? Anyway.. a s/wd in my party the other day told me I should use shot more, but for me, as s/w, it seems pretty fail. Even my WA does more dmg, and when using a full rotation I don't run out of focus so I just use WA as filler and never use shot. Am I missing something here? I think I might be, because even in ch3 I could never get shot spam to work for me... maybe I'm lucky though, I prly would have quit if all I had to do was spam 1 skill.

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Friday, December 2nd 2011, 12:15pm

Yea shot spam only applies for scout/warden, when i am on scout/warrior, i almost never use shot except to get that patk buff. before this patch, on burn, you could also spam shot but it was better to weave thorn arrow and reflect shot as they didn't have GCD.

Either way s/wd's shot spam is insane with that buff.

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Friday, December 2nd 2011, 10:58pm

isn't the shot buff from s/w only like 200 patk? i hardly find that worth it too lol. other scouts shouldn't really be using shot... it doesn't hit very hard... rotation shouldn't have changed much for other scouts besides reflected shot triggering gcd... i can't really speak though haven't tried others since =x and yes s/wd dps increase due to this :D

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Saturday, December 3rd 2011, 2:12am

there is a 3.6% or something increase now on shot for s/w with the bosses pdef being so high i will take anything i can get

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Saturday, December 3rd 2011, 7:19pm

shot spam is still lower dps than we was doing before gcd and they already nerfed shot in ch3. I personally dont like the shot spamming it takes away the fun of the game id rathger them remove gcd and let me use my rotation.
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Sunday, December 4th 2011, 7:05am

broken

s/wd, wd/s is truely a broken class again due to the LOS and GCD. :(