Runes of Magic US / AU

http://twitter.com/#!/RoM_Silberfuchs/status/146591579140927488
Translated from the German via Google translate:

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Some sugar ... or "scale" ... for the magician in RoM: "General Mage spell damage factor increases from 1.3 to 1.6." PewPew!

I said in the main thread on the patch that I would hold off making a judgement until the patch notes were released and the patch tested, but grrrrarrrr it's too hard.

I know a .3 increase sounds tiny, but we all remember what a huge difference the last .3 increase made in Chapter 4.

My biggest fear is that this will make mage truly OP in PvP. If people whined because they were getting hit by a 90k fireball before.... can you imagine the sheer QQ caused by a 110k fireball???

My other issue is that while the GCD caused mainly endgame geared mages issues, this change will effect mages of all levels. Mage was already OP in leveling and questing. This could really mess up people who are just starting out their mages. If this is the only change that affects mages made in this patch (if they don't change the GCD in any other ways at all), mage will not be OP in PvE dungeons at endgame.

However, if they change the GCD in significant ways, which I sincerely hope they do, because so many other classes were affected, namely priest, scout and druid... it could be a sweet change that's too sweet and makes us all ill.

A guildie was saying that he sincerely hopes that they change the GCD to appear at the beginning of the cast time and not at the end. I think this is a reasonable hope, and it would help scouts and druids and priests to a point (p/r would still have issues and all priests that use cast time modifiers would also still be left out).

They say that they are patching tonight and that the purpose of the patch is to help with the GCD. Silberfuchs says this is some "sugar" for mages, and we don't yet know the full contents of the patch... I think while all we can do until the patch notes are released is speculate, but I sincerely hope that they don't leave healers and scouts out in the cold.

But... if they change the GCD in some way and add this damage modifier which I think might just throw PvP and leveling balance off by itself...

We might end up OP.

It's a very real possibility, and one I do not relish thinking about.

Now, we sucked for a long time, had a very brief period of parity and then went right back to our suck corner.

Some might say it's about GD time we had some OP-ness. Some might also say that melee has had it's time in the sun. Some might say that it's about damned time they put some magic back in Runes of Magic.

To be honest, as fun as that would be, I have no desire whatsoever to be OP. What we asked for, what we have always begged for is parity, equivalence. Now, it's perfectly possible that we might just get that. We were still a teeny weeny bit underpowered compared to melee dps after the chapter 4 balance. This might just fix that. No one really minded that tiny disparity, and we just really wanted to be able to do good damage.

This might very well be the end-all be-all final awesome balance change that all players wanted.

Or it might backfire and mages might still be suckish.

Or it might backfire and make us OP.

All we can do is wait and see.

But I have to say, kudos Frogster for listening to us and making a fast change. Even if this isn't perfect, we very very very much appreciate the fact that you are doing something, anything to fix the problems the bad implementation of the GCD caused.

Thank you.

We're all a little drunk on the whole idea of not sucking anymore in a few hours aren't we?

Yes Xaldyn honey, I am a real life "she."

I have been accused of having big brass ones though, on more than one occasion

I notice that not only do they still have good sales on, they're also running a 125% dia special to coincide with this little patchlet.

Oooooh FroggySanta... if you're a very good little boy I'll be a very very good little girl to you

In the immortal words of Ru Paul: Don't f%^k it up.

Quoted from "CeciltheHoly;493316"

mnkmurphy885 had a very good post. Very level headed and reasonable, but there is one thing she said I would like to comment on. If it turns out that this patch makes mages more powerful than melee classes (at least by a small, reasonable amount) I don’t see that this would be at all uncalled for. Look at our armor. We get the smallest amount of HP on our gear and the smallest amount of defense. Sure we get some magical defense, but that rarely comes into play in instances (which is where the problem lies). If we are going to play a class that naturally has lower HP and defense than say warriors or rogues or scouts, there trade off should be more damage (I was however also very happy being just serviceable as a dps).

As for siege, I've seen one too many 160K+ HP scouts/rogues/warriors/knights running around that near impossible to kill. I have never seen a mage running around with that much health. Yes, mages hit hard in siege, but they are also one of the easiest classes to kill all else being equal. Most mages know what's like to be killed by a rogue in some ridiculous "nothing I could have done" type of circumstance which ends by you getting hit for 150K. Nothing this patch will do will make mages more op than a rogue who can hide after every hit (by them or us), stun us for an obscene amount of time from range and 1 hit 90% of characters out there.
Anyway, that's my 2 cents. I look forward to hearing what you think.

Character: Moody
Class: Mage
Server: Reni
Guild: Phoenix

I dunno the more I think about it the more I wonder what we'll get from FroggySanta this patch.

It's so very vague. Patch notes need to come out soon.

I dunno Cecil- the worst part of being OP in RoM are all the years you spend with your class in the toilet post nerf. Look at mages, look at scouts. How long before they fix scouts? I give them at least a year before they get a real balance (besides a fix for the GCD nerf). I mean, there is one workable scout combo, well, pre-GCD- s/wd. S/W, s/r all stink and have stunk since Chap 4.

I mean, sure it would be fun to have Runes of Mages for a year- but what would we do for the next year that we sucked?

I'm tired of the rollercoaster, which is why I just want parity. I agree that it seems kinda crazy that the more survivable types get better dps, but as long as they take us with them, and we can keep up decently on the scrut, I don't care.

I'm not looking forward to the inevitable rogue nerf at all (well, I'll enjoy watching a very very select few names on this forum cry like babies lol). They don't deserve it either. They're barely OP now, really, but I don't think that'll save em from the nerfhammer.

And yes, while I know a few mages that can get 120k hp in sw, I know a heck of a lot more melee class types that can get that much, and no mages at all that can buff to 160k. Actually, all the melee endgamers I know buff over 120k at least without breaking a sweat. Me, I buff to 100k. Not for siege though, I hate using Uni's in siege, it's a waste for a priest/scout. I get to 80 with just hero and my crappy Grace, and another 20k isn't gonna save me from that 120k lowblow anyway.