Runes of Magic US / AU

forgot about 1 extry bow slot scout combo gets?

Not to mention the best Elite skill in the game (In my opinion) Combat Master. It makes a big difference because it ups your Crit damage by 60%. That's a huge buff.

What are you testing on ToSH or DoD? Most r/w's I know go dagger main and then axe off-hand there reason being that they miss less supposedly. You also left out the part where you are a glass cannon with full burn phase going on. R/W IMHO isnt better than R/S due to elites and nothing in this game is "cheap" and saving a few million is meh now a days. You want to get geared for cheap play a Priest/Druid people always need em and there are so few left.

Quoted from "Madflavor;508964"

Not to mention the best Elite skill in the game (In my opinion) Combat Master. It makes a big difference because it ups your Crit damage by 60%. That's a huge buff.

Combat Master is OP, but not AS GOOD AS PEOPLE BELIEVE.

60% extra crit damage, considering natural crit 130%, plus two rings 55.6% each, gives about 301% crit damage (that is.. when it crits, it's 3x damage of non crit),
Without 60% from combat master, it is 241%, so 2.4x damage of non crit.

300/240= 1,24875621890547263681592039801 -> about 25% improvement.

Now, Berserk gives 36% patt in exchange for -36% pdef. since berserk lasts 30 secs, and has 60 secs cd, it's as if it was a permanent +18% patt.
In later instances, your patt will always be much below bosses' pdef, so +18% patt translates to +18% dps.

So berserk gives 18% extra dps, while combat master gives +25%.

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Now consider that Assassin's rage (rogues' 5m skill) besides raising crit chance, it also increases crit damage, the % improvement from combat master is less than 25%.
Moreover, most boss fights last very short, so in essence, you could say that berserk actually increases your dps by 36%, because by the end of berserk, the boss is dead already.

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What really makes r/s IMBA is energy thief. not combat master.

First of all... It's impossible you do twice the damage with axes compared to daggers. If they are equivalent weapons ( tier, plus, ini). Dps wise not much diff and some difference in ghost stats.
Secondly misses depend on weapon proficiency. Accuracy only helps against dodges and enemies are never doing to dodge a rogue.

People don't fully understand how DPS for each secondary class.

As someone stated in this thread already, the only reason why R/S are strong during burst is because of Energy Thief, once it is over. RogueScout's do VERY LITTLE damage.

Knight, Warrior, Warden secondary (I don't think I missed any) can get VERY close to a R/S in a fight that doesn't involve a 15-second burn.

Each secondary class has a purpose.

If you think R/S is bad sustained dps, your wrong. A R/S can use strong stim, after that use Frenzy potion, then after that use Fervent attack. So that is up to over a minute of Speed increases. Also dont forget that you can use Blood arrow after your burn and use a Xbow for filling between normal rogue rotation (Shot almost always crits). With Blind Spot, Low blow, Wound attack all your dps skills are over 550% dps...with WA being 1600%+.

Quoted from "ddavidd14;522388"

A R/S can use strong stim, after that use Frenzy potion, then after that use Fervent attack. So that is up to over a minute of Speed increases.

So can a r/w.

Never said that r/s was better sustained dps than r/w because they probably arent, but compared to most classes they are above average.