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Get a Secondary class. No point waiting to reach level cap first.

Quoted from "Izulde;518838"

Why not wait it would be a pain to have to constantly switch classes to rank up each. You can't rank up your Secondary past your Primary.

Switching takes 1 sec at housemaid and you get access to secondary skills and elite skills.
Secondary class can't be above primary in the sense that you can't be p/r 60/70, but you'd be p/r 60/60 when on priest side, and r/p 70/60 when on rogue side. NO MATTER WHICH YOU CHOSE AT BEGINING WHEN MAKING TOON

Quoted from "Izulde;518826"

Is that a good unique combination... Priest has some good heals and Rogue has some good DPS it would make sense that it make a unique combo it's just that no one has answered me if that would be good to try out >.>

Can someone Help me out here?

At the moment I am a lvl 17 Priest and won't get a Secondary Class till I max out.

p/k is the top healing combo for priest class. p/m and p/s are also good healing combos. As far as i know p/r is also k when comes to healing. If you are looking to do dps as well go for p/s. p/s is awesome in pvp and can do fair dps in pve but not great in instances as dps.

P/R is not good mele combination, as as priest you can't wear leader and you should state priest stats, not dex/str/patk.

Secondary class of hybrid combinations (like one I have) is more about elites than your second class general skills. For example, to use shadow stab you have to equip dagger (can be done with staff as well ) but do I really like to do that in middle of fight??

On the other hand, my elites, like Cursed Fangs do not require dagger, and hit nicely, it's spamable, has nice DOT. It has multiplier but based on INT.

Take your toon to 25/25 anf get all 3 elites, level them, play and see if you like your combination. If not, just create different toon, mail everything you like to that toon.

Er, if you want a melee priest, your only option really is P/W. P/R is not melee, nor is it even physical.

And not leveling your secondary is just plain stupid. Especially for the priest class, elite skills either help with leveling, or they help for healing. Since you don't really care about the healing aspect much, you'd be in for a rough surprise if you tried to take a priest to 70 with no secondary. Priests are extremely slow in leveling without either elite skills that do damage or damage skills from your secondary class (i.e. P/M...and no, you're not going to be using Shadowstab as a priest).

But um, if you're looking for melee DPS...you're asking about the wrong class. Even P/W pales in comparison to actual melee DPS combos, because of how it's built right now and the fact that there's only limited gear available for P/Ws...which usually ends up being sub-par.

i mean u did choose it for fun, not because you wanted a strong op class, so it should work well for you. in the end. you still can choose that 3rd class and be op if u need a best dps character.

so play around having fun on ur p/r, and when its time to pvp or something either get a scout or mage as your 3rd class and ur good good to go. m/p p/s or r/s and many more combos you can make by adding a 3rd class will all get the job done.

so i support your choice.

Quoted from "Izulde;522940"

I do wanna pt this out there guys. Those that said a PriestRogue was a bad combo. Well in truth it probably is, but if you look at the bigger picture it ain't so bad. In fact I am now a 28 Priest/24 Rogue and I do finely with it. I do die sometimes, but not frequently. I have a really High Melee DPS and hardly get hit at all. Throw down Blind Stab and you got yourself a shield literally lolz. That ain't enough, how about the hefty bonus you get from both Agility and Nimble Hands which can be used because they are under the Rogue Skills not Class-Specific. I have high DPS with using 2H Staves. You can use a Mace and Shield, but you won't have as high as DPS intended to use.

On top of that you still have Bone Chill and Amplified Attack and Grace of Life.

I fully support your will to play "out of the ordinary" combos, and even taking unorthodox measures in playing them. But I'll be honest with you: you have very little experience to say how well your plan is going out for you. Not until you hit *at least* level 53-55 at bare minimum, where you'll have to quest in an area called Savage Lands. The linear scaling of the enemies' stats stops there, and everything gets increased by about 2x-3x higher. If you can get through Savage Lands with minimal trouble (I'm talking about solo'ing through it while on-level and quest geared) while maintaining your current path - then please tell me and I'll applaud you.

I don't have any intention of coming across as rude or arrogant or anything, but when you call out more experienced players and say "if you look at the bigger picture" and try to tell us how well you're doing but you haven't experienced much in the game at all... it irks me a little.

Now, with all that said... I do 100% agree with you when you say that the p/r combo isn't all that bad. Why? Because it is a really good combo, just not used as often as P/k (considered best priest healing combo in game) or as p/s (best PvP priest combo) or p/m (commonly used because both priest and mages are caster-classes) because the idea of having a "melee dps" class as a secondary to priest seems ridiculous. But looking at the elite skills you get from going as P/r, you get nice bonuses to healing in the form of:
-Quick Spellcasting (an elite skill that makes nimble hands increase spell casting rate) which allows you to pull off your heals quicker than any other priest
-Shadow Fury (an elite skill that gives a party-wide buff to magical critical hit rate) which allows you to crit on your heals more often, as well as boost other mages, druid and priests with getting crits on any spell
-Shadow Fairy: Now the shadow fairy doesn't help with healing. But it's aura increases the matk of everyone in your party by 10%. This is, imo, an awesome buff that every mage I've run with loves. The aura also gives the owner (in this case, you) an increase to all dark damage you do. This means that your magical-damaging dark spells that you get earlier (Cursed Fangs as well as Lure of the Snake Woman and Infectious Wound) all deal even more damage.

Another thing I want to point out that you're kind-of right on, is that the general skills of your secondary class do have the potential of making a specific combo really great. But that usually will only apply to classes that have similar rolls. The best example I can think of is having Warden as a secondary works GREAT with any physical dps'ing primary class, such as rogue, scout and warrior. Why? Because the Warden gives a physical dps% skill that is spammable and uses an energy source (mana) that differs from the primary's source of energy (rogue's using energy, scout's focus and warrior's rage), as well as a 20second cooldown spell that increases your Patk by up to 17.5% if i recall correctly.

Just remember though, that despite what I just said in the above paragraph - the main thing that makes a combo good is the elite skills that you're provided. The presence of useful general skills from your secondary can make a good combo even better, or a so-so combo pretty viable.


Sorry for rambling on, but I thought I could clear a couple of things I think you may have misunderstood about earlier. If you aren't sure about something, or want to ask any questions or whatever, feel free to PM me.

Although I personally have no experience with Priests, I know that my Mage benefits greatly from Agility alone. It practically de-squishifies me and pulling a Rogue skill once in a while is pretty darned cool. Of course Mages can use daggers... And I'm only 33/25... But just saying.

No one said P/R was a bad combo. We just said it's not melee dps. If you continue to attempt to gimp your priest by pouring your TP into passives and skills you will NEVER use as a priest...by all means, keep going until you've screwed up your character so much that you can't kill a single quest mob in under 2 minutes.

A "melee" P/R is never going to be taken seriously. The combo is awesome for healing, but even its elites should point out the fact that it's not meant to be physical at all. At level 28, you haven't even begun to experience the game, and even if you're getting by on your "out of the ordinary" build...that's going to change when you hit Savage Lands. Level 28 "DPS" is a joke compared to when you start getting geared at 55. You will also never be wanted in any instance at level 55+ if you insist on claiming that P/R is a melee DPS combo.

As I said before, choose P/W or don't choose a priest at all, if you want melee damage. But if you choose not to listen to those that have warned you, and still claim that this combo is viable for physical damage, feel free to come back in a few weeks once you hit 55 and correct yourself.

There are some oddball combos in this game that can be built other than the norm for that specific primary class...such as W/M, for example, which is commonly built as a melee mage rather than a physical DPS. P/R, however, is not one such combo.

P/R is not a melee class. At all. Like don't even try it, it won't work.

P/R is a great combo for healing. I'm not sure what you're looking for in your character but P/R is 100% not a melee character.
Just because you have skills doesn't mean you should use them. M/W technically can equip a 1h Axe and use Slash, but it's like shooting yourself in the foot. If you tell us what you want in a class combo, we can probably steer you in the right direction.

Quoted from "Izulde;523196"

Also Ullion, I agree Warden is a nice calss, but I didn't roll with Elf like I should :'(* however.... I don't like the Warden. I tried it and it did not work out for me not all classes are for everyone that is so true.

My point with the warden was simply to use it as an example of how a secondary class's general skill can complement a primary class (like when you have 2 physical dps class combo). I wasn't by any means suggesting you to take warden.

Early in the game (below 55), I'm sure it's very plausible to do P/R as a magic damage combo. Get yourself a good 2h Staff and grab items with Intelligence and Magical Attack and you should be set. When most people say, "?/? sucks and fails and can't compete" they are referring to endgame instance running. I tried doing P/R as magic damage build, you won't be able to keep up with the mages. I am like you and have to try something for myself to see if it works or not, a lot of the combos remain under the radar because people just give up on them. The issue you will have is that most players are interested in only getting to endgame and they will discard you because you aren't the best in the game or you aren't filling a specific role your main class is centered around.

The issue that people are having is that you're talking about doing a melee build for priest. Shadow Stab isn't very effective if you don't have enough physical damage and physical attack. P/R isn't built for melee damage in the least bit. Blind Stab is pretty useful, but you'll get an elite skill that stuns mobs long enough for you to kill them before they get into melee range. P/W is a very robust combination that focuses on melee combat but difficult to play. If you want to try out a weird and odd class, try out R/D, W/M, Wd/D or S/M. They all offer alternative builds that actually can work in some cases. As for exploring new things about class combinations, it's pretty much all been covered.