Runes of Magic US / AU

Quoted from "amilineni;523529"

stop keeping this useless thread active. Its already said so many times in previous discussions "if you looking to run through siege area alone switch to rogue class otherwise stay in group."

@aglupus
seeing a 190k hp rogue means he is completely pvp stated(dex,hp) with t7 or t8 gear and buffed. If you stat int and stm completely you can gain huge hp as well. Stay with scout and see yourself how many rogues should come to take both of you down.

Scout+Mage versus 1 rogue = Shadow Pris. scout before they can see you (at 100-180 range), pop serenstrum, low blow scout, low blow mage.

As for the 190k hp rogue, I wouldn't be surprised if I saw ferocity runes in one of the 4 rune slots or even a stam/hp...

Quoted from "aglupus;523516"

Yep, exactly I saw this 190k rogue take out the gate within 5 seconds, they tornado - brought it down to 40% then % after % in 5 seconds down, he was in. Took out our processing before 6 mages ganged up on him.

I just don't get how a person can have so much HP and so much attack at the same time?

Lol they're talking about you ebi, Also they seem to fail to realize that I was the herald.

And jfyi I was the one who killed your factory, and yes there is a way to spec for bleeds, and pdmg does affect bleeds heavily, a lot more than patk.

There is also a huge other factor that affects how much bleeds hit for besides Pdmg.

The other thing is that from the angle that I cast tornado that it should hit the gate for 80%-90% of it's health, so the bleeds on it are more or less meaningless, more meaningful in how quickly you can take down a processing though.

Quoted from "aglupus;523534"

That's another thing though, not many scouts are out there and all the good ones are taken, because everyone wants to be an OP rogue. We can't exhaust our only scout when the other team has 12 rogues.
This isn't a useless thread, they either need to buff us, or nerf them.
I know electric towers will bring rogues out of hide, but it wont do much good when they can one hit those too.

1) Electric towers / flame towers

2) Eye of True Knowledge

3) Scout's Detection

4) Turning on 'show damage' in interface options to see pots/yawaka's blessing on rogues

What more do you want to spot rogues?
And buff mages? You must be out of your mind... are you not happy with your already existing magma blade? Honestly, if you're going to sit here and whine about how rogues have hide, then you might as well use this time to create on yourself. Sell your mage gear. Go join those 12 rogues on the other team.

Acet I love how you devoted your sig to me, I'll be just fine with my 63k pa unbuffed, but you're obviously not fine with that fact I killed waves and waves of your guild over and over. I was one shotting you like crazy which means my PA is just fine to surpass your pdef, and dodge rate. Guess either I'm doing something wrong as a rogue or maybe I'm doing something right which would explain the hundreds of kills.

I loved every moment of that siege when you all came at be and one by one I dodged, one shot, dodge, one shot. Oops 8 of you down, better hurry and rez to get back to try and kill ebil.

Think about this I primarily siege only, why not have gear that will ensure optimal crit, damage, and survivability? Most rogues average 40-50k pdef, with pa above that damage is the mitigating factor.

But you keep being bitter pal and no one in your guild called people hacks but you. The only failure friend is your personality, sore loser. The whole stack PA is a philosophy chapter 3 scouts took to rogue, 80k pa is awesome but then you are truly a glass canon. Even with 63k pa im still in the top 10% of players. You need to find a happy medium when stating. As for PVE I have been tanking as r/k and hold aggro just fine, I have always prefered playing r/k in PVE.

I have been playing rogue since chapter one, and will always be a rogue, research your class, find what suits you, build your gear for your playing style, funny people hate the guy who stats differently, yet that guy manages to kill them. So who really is failing here?

Oh and quick edit my VA does 21k per tick no crit, the trick to that and keep your Xbow as a stat stick, wear Lekani light armor, tier it as high as you can afford to, the damage modifier makes it so you can clean T6-T7 your xbow and keep all those wonderful dex/hp stats on it.

Quoted from "L3g3nd;523530"

Scout+Mage versus 1 rogue = Shadow Pris. scout before they can see you (at 100-180 range), pop serenstrum, low blow scout, low blow mage.

lol even scouts and mages can use immune foods. scout detection+ attack skills and mage thunderstorm are a great combination to take down any rogue. shadow prison will be active for 3 sec ony in pvp.

@agluspus

lol taking 3 hits= 5sec by low stated rogue(30k hp) says how inexperienced you are at the moment.

This is my last post in this thread.

Quoted from "regentego;523542"

Acet I love how you devoted your sig to me, I'll be just fine with my 63k pa unbuffed, but you're obviously not fine with that fact I killed waves and waves of your guild over and over. I was one shotting you like crazy which means my PA is just fine to surpass your pdef, and dodge rate. Guess either I'm doing something wrong as a rogue or maybe I'm doing something right which would explain the hundreds of kills.

I loved every moment of that siege when you all came at be and one by one I dodged, one shot, dodge, one shot. Oops 8 of you down, better hurry and rez to get back to try and kill ebil.

Think about this I primarily siege only, why not have gear that will ensure optimal crit, damage, and survivability? Most rogues average 40-50k pdef, with pa above that damage is the mitigating factor.

But you keep being bitter pal and no one in your guild called people hacks but you. The only failure friend is your personality, sore loser. The whole stack PA is a philosophy chapter 3 scouts took to rogue, 80k pa is awesome but then you are truly a glass canon. Even with 63k pa im still in the top 10% of players. You need to find a happy medium when stating. As for PVE I have been tanking as r/k and hold aggro just fine, I have always prefered playing r/k in PVE.

I have been playing rogue since chapter one, and will always be a rogue, research your class, find what suits you, build your gear for your playing style, funny people hate the guy who stats differently, yet that guy manages to kill them. So who really is failing here?

Again, read my signature a few times and maybe you'll get it. I guess you still don't realize why your low blows hit for <80k and mine for 120k on you. Some people just never learn that dext/hp x6 is a failure.

I ranked 1 in kills in all my sieges since the first day I joined my guild. No macros, no add-ons.

Against your guild, looking at the war record right this minute, I managed 70 kills and <20 deaths. That's fighting a losing battle. Must've killed 4 of your guys before dying once. It's great that you can farm kills; you still gain no respect from that whatsoever.

You fail in PvE yet you do not realize that. I just wish some people can see their stupidity and realize it before fall deeper in their hole.

Quoted from "regentego;523542"

Acet I love how you devoted your sig to me, I'll be just fine with my 63k pa unbuffed, but you're obviously not fine with that fact I killed waves and waves of your guild over and over. I was one shotting you like crazy which means my PA is just fine to surpass your pdef, and dodge rate. Guess either I'm doing something wrong as a rogue or maybe I'm doing something right which would explain the hundreds of kills.

I loved every moment of that siege when you all came at be and one by one I dodged, one shot, dodge, one shot. Oops 8 of you down, better hurry and rez to get back to try and kill ebil.

Think about this I primarily siege only, why not have gear that will ensure optimal crit, damage, and survivability? Most rogues average 40-50k pdef, with pa above that damage is the mitigating factor.

But you keep being bitter pal and no one in your guild called people hacks but you. The only failure friend is your personality, sore loser. The whole stack PA is a philosophy chapter 3 scouts took to rogue, 80k pa is awesome but then you are truly a glass canon. Even with 63k pa im still in the top 10% of players. You need to find a happy medium when stating. As for PVE I have been tanking as r/k and hold aggro just fine, I have always prefered playing r/k in PVE.

I have been playing rogue since chapter one, and will always be a rogue, research your class, find what suits you, build your gear for your playing style, funny people hate the guy who stats differently, yet that guy manages to kill them. So who really is failing here?

You forget that he's calling you out on your dex, you're what 5th on artemis atm? Think that whole dex thing should be taken out.

Also @agulpus any class can do what a rogue does/what you're talking about, as long as you 1-hit/2-hit the first person you're out of combat you can go into a visual illusion or you can pop an invis pot or whatever you want, Rogue is just the most common class.

Either way, 'agulpus' the point you're really missing here is that your guild was fairly outgeared going against us, that's why I mentioned the whole 3 siege loss thing. It doesn't matter if we were rogues or not (if anything we probably have more mages than rogues anyways).

In fact you admitted to your problem right here

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[COLOR=black ! important]when you don't have the necessary people on your team there needs to be some sort of ultimatum.

don't have the nessecary people on your team, hmmmm hmmmmmm, can we make some sort of conclusion from this?

Hell, our guild could use a scout badly, but right now it's just not in the cards, but do you hear me complaining about it?
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Quoted from "aglupus;523541"

Oh Hey acet, nice defending your class. But this just isn't great, when you don't have the necessary people on your team there needs to be some sort of ultimatum.
That's where we need better traps.
I understand Rogues hide is a viable part of their class. To sneak around and do tons of damage, but they shouldn't be able to run around with 190k and just act like a tank.
I was thinking, if they got a cd on their hide once they came out it would force them to pull back a little bit, maybe make them to kill one person then run back wait for their hide to get ready, recover their energy, then go get that friend that is chasing after that rogue.
I think it will be better overall.

I think the 190k hp guy you keep referring to is the same idiot who statted wrong. Think of it this way, it's true they might have a crapload of hp but are they really a tank? Is dext/hp x6 really tanking? Chances are they only have 30k pdef and 25k mdef from their tiered gear.

I can't stress enough how important this first-strike opportunity theory is. If you want that first-strike opportunity over the rogue, turn on your 'show damage' in interface options. Chances are the rogue is stupid enough to be using a pot at that moment or they have Yawaka's blessing on. AoE that spot so rogue pops out and then just stun.

Shadow prisoned? No problem. Pop a candy, after SP use a discharge and follow it up with a Magma Blade + fireball...

Rogues aren't OPed. It's just that the people going against them 1) can't react fast enough 2) doesn't use their immunes

Quoted from "L3g3nd;523546"

Again, read my signature a few times and maybe you'll get it. I guess you still don't realize why your low blows hit for <80k and mine for 120k on you. Some people just never learn that dext/hp x6 is a failure.

I ranked 1 in kills in all my sieges since the first day I joined my guild. No macros, no add-ons.

Against your guild, looking at the war record right this minute, I managed 70 kills and <20 deaths. That's fighting a losing battle. Must've killed 4 of your guys before dying once. It's great that you can farm kills; you still gain no respect from that whatsoever.

You fail in PvE yet you do not realize that. I just wish some people can see their stupidity and realize it before fall deeper in their hole.

Dude my low blow hit you for 140k, my SS hit you for 80k, I use SS for the AOE when I'm being rushed. In PVE I do just fine, and I've run every instance just fine also, but you're on Reni you wouldn't know that. I've never seen someone so bitter about getting owned. Or is it because you got owned by someone who doesn't gear like everyone says your supposed too!!!

The best part is you are now obsessed, you took time out of your life to devote your sig to me. I have a new stalker YaY!

Oh and this idiot has unbuffed, 119k HP 16436 dex, 10200 Sta, 63k pa, 10943 pdam, 58k pdef, 48k mdef.

That's all unbuffed, what do you got Acet?

Quoted from "regentego;523556"

Dude my low blow hit you for 140k, my SS hit you for 80k, I use SS for the AOE when I'm being rushed. In PVE I do just fine, and I've run every instance just fine also, but you're on Reni you wouldn't know that. I've never seen someone so bitter about getting owned. Or is it because you got owned by someone who doesn't gear like everyone says your supposed too!!!

The best part is you are now obsessed, you took time out of your life to devote your sig to me. I have a new stalker YaY!

Bro... lol. 140k is my hp as in you would've 1-hit me. Sorry to disappoint you but that did not happen during the course of the sw ever.

But I guess you can enjoy my signature. Maybe it can inspire you to stat the "right" way. I took time out of my life to create my sig while you took time and bank to stat wrong. *slow clap*

*puts another package of popcorn into microwave*

Quoted from "L3g3nd;523558"

Bro... lol. 140k is my hp as in you would've 1-hit me. Sorry to disappoint you but that did not happen during the course of the sw ever.

But I guess you can enjoy my signature. Maybe it can inspire you to stat the "right" way. I took time out of my life to create my sig while you took time and bank to stat wrong. *slow clap*

Your base HP is 77k, you buffed up to a bit under 110k that night, why all the lying?

Chiron>all

That is all.

Quoted from "regentego;523561"

Your base HP is 77k, you buffed up to a bit under 110k that night, why all the lying?

92.5k. You seriously think you know my hp? LMAO. gtfo kid.

There's only one way to settle this! Both of you queue up 1v1 and one of you use fraps to record it, then upload link here

Quoted from "L3g3nd;523550"

Rogues aren't OPed. It's just that the people going against them 1) can't react fast enough 2) doesn't use their immunes

3) they can't play their class, but since they have the best gear and highest lvl, they think they should win..but they been playing for 2 months, and have no idea about how the game mechanics work

When mages stop double flame critting me for over 100K i'll feel sorry that you died to a rogue. XD

Quoted from "Borella;524014"

When mages stop double flame critting me for over 100K i'll feel sorry that you died to a rogue. XD

I agree put me down for mages being OP

Edit They have intelligently given the rogue it's power for a reason. That being that they have to go into the lion's den and fight. They can't stand at the entrance (200 - 217) like the scouts and mages.