Runes of Magic US / AU

pssh tab low blow is an aoe kills all tha it hits lol, all im saying is r's problems aren't as severe as other class's

Go into Rogue Den and complain about Rogue, lmao, good try! It's like go to Middle East and complain about terrorists

Why do you think 75% of the players on the server play Rogue? because Rogue is fun? NO!!!

fun as => Favor of this game.. I don't think you can farm hard instance 1 solo Mage, but you can farm with 1 single Rogue, go figure. With enough Dex to dodge Rogue can also replace the Tank.

Class with the highest dps, probably even higher than warrior, which is kind of funny considered they using dagger vs. axe. Plus easiest role. If the party is wiped, do you think the Rogue get blame? or the healer and tank? lol probably not rogue, especially there are 3 Rogues Mouths vs. 1 Healer or 3 Rogue Mouths vs. 1 Tank.

Agh get used to it.
When someone gets killed by "X" they cry that "X" is OP; it's very typical.

ICE BLADE is OP... n3rf n0w.

Quoted from "acidkavu;539244"

Go into Rogue Den and complain about Rogue, lmao, good try! It's like go to Middle East and complain about terrorists

Why do you think 75% of the players on the server play Rogue? because Rogue is fun? NO!!!

fun as => Favor of this game.. I don't think you can farm hard instance 1 solo Mage, but you can farm with 1 single Rogue, go figure. With enough Dex to dodge Rogue can also replace the Tank.

Class with the highest dps, probably even higher than warrior, which is kind of funny considered they using dagger vs. axe. Plus easiest role. If the party is wiped, do you think the Rogue get blame? or the healer and tank? lol probably not rogue, especially there are 3 Rogues Mouths vs. 1 Healer or 3 Rogue Mouths vs. 1 Tank.

Acidkavu,

Rogues are not the highest DPS in the game. If I remember correctly at to what someone said 2 months ago. M/W is currently the highest DPS class in the game ... then some of the warrior classes. Scout Rogue and then RogueScout.

Don't throw information out there if you don't know that a Rogue's role is in the game. Rogues are a very fun class to play. Clearly by your comments, you have never played one.

i wish :/

m/w can top a scrut occasionally if lucky on crits...but r/s followed by w/r, w/wd seem the most consistently highest. mainly r/s ?

Quoted from "pazuzzu;539392"

i wish :/

m/w can top a scrut occasionally if lucky on crits...but r/s followed by w/r, w/wd seem the most consistently highest. mainly r/s ?

All of the classes there do amazing dps, along with a few other mage combos when played right. They can all top the dps scrut, the problem comes down to how they are played, and how lucky the person gets critting. R/S is the most likely to crit consistently, but that dosent mean that a mage or warrior who is playing their class well wont keep up with or demolish a R/S.

I agree with you completely. The rogues HAVE every advantage in this game and no disadvantages (aside from possibly not having an Areo of Effect attack (BUT! who needs one when you 1 hit Everything). The only true nemesis they have are other rogues.

They are the easiest to stat class-- with the most gratifying results (i.e. physical damage).

Hide instantly with no consequence.

Leather armor (better than cloth)

While it may be an old argument it is a completely vadid one. I am not saying Nerf the rogues ( I like them they way they are ) but perhaps make other classes more resistant to them.

Quoted from "ChetMichael;539750"

I agree with you completely. The rogues HAVE every advantage in this game and no disadvantages (aside from possibly not having an Areo of Effect attack (BUT! who needs one when you 1 hit Everything). The only true nemesis they have are other rogues.

They are the easiest to stat class-- with the most gratifying results (i.e. physical damage).

Hide instantly with no consequence.

Leather armor (better than cloth)

While it may be an old argument it is a completely vadid one. I am not saying Nerf the rogues ( I like them they way they are ) but perhaps make other classes more resistant to them.

Thats not even true...mages have just as much defense off their armor, since armor defense makes jack shit difference.

We lack aoes, we are close range so we die to close range aoes on boss fights and trash mobs if we are not careful.

I dont see how our statting is any harder than any other class...

In instances, no rogue one shots anything. People complain about rogues, but your complaining about pvp in a pve based game.

I saw a m/w hit a boss for 1.5 mil damage, even with my shints fully buffed there is no way in hell im able to do that.

a good s/wd can regularly out dps r/s if we are talking specific classes. m/w is competitive along with w/r. s/r generally does not out dps r/s but if you add in the party debuffs it puts on boss you could actually say s/r out dps just about any class out there.

Quoted from "thebadtouch09;539772"

Thats not even true...mages have just as much defense off their armor, since armor defense makes jack shit difference.

We lack aoes, we are close range so we die to close range aoes on boss fights and trash mobs if we are not careful.

I dont see how our statting is any harder than any other class...

In instances, no rogue one shots anything. People complain about rogues, but your complaining about pvp in a pve based game.

Eh. I can *sort of* see where they come from with "rogues are easier to stat" in that they DO have more stats that are possible to use from like shells and mementos. It's just that it's not as optimal to stat like that. However, Rogues can get sta/dex, dex/patt, sta/patt while mages can only get int/sta, int/matk. But either way, Rogues that stat the "right" way are by no means any easier to stat than any other class, since Dex/Stam isn't actually a very great stat for most people.

Rogues should NEVER use str/pa >.> EVER no excuses.

sta/dex maybe, but try to avoid it. Really, rogues should only be using dex/pa, stam/pa, and pa/hp (and core's only come out of tosh hard or gch). Dex/hp and stam/dex are rarely used filler stats or, more likely, fails. So rogues live off 2-3 stats TOPS.

Given that we compete with other rogues and with scouts for dex/pa and pa/hp and that we compete with every physical class including knigts and wardens for stam/pa, we are in no way easier to stat than a mage.

Quoted from "thebadtouch09;539798"

Rogues should NEVER use str/pa >.> EVER no excuses.

sta/dex maybe, but try to avoid it. Really, rogues should only be using dex/pa, stam/pa, and pa/hp (and core's only come out of tosh hard or gch). Dex/hp and stam/dex are rarely used filler stats or, more likely, fails. So rogues live off 2-3 stats TOPS.

Given that we compete with other rogues and with scouts for dex/pa and pa/hp and that we compete with every physical class including knigts and wardens for stam/pa, we are in no way easier to stat than a mage.

Ya I know that Dardar I was just pointing out that I can see how they might think that.

Honestly though mages... you compete with.. hey.. nobody, for your stats. And there's usually more rogues/scouts than there ever are mages. So you're much better off stat wise than Rogues are. And of course there's always the fact that sta/pa is wanted by every. single. physical. class.

On top of that, before any one tries to say other wise, there are certain mage combinations(m/w, m/s, m/p), warrior combos (w/r, w/wn), scout combos (s/wn), warden combos (wn/s), that all can keep up with rogues, and a new warlock class that no one has really experienced in end game content.

And before you say that "yes, but only very specific mage classes are viable" rogues arnt all op, r/s is the only good rogue. This thread shouldnt be about op rogues, the problem is that there are 8 viable end game dps classes out of twenty (ish).

All of those class combos can keep up or surpass rogue scouts in damage in pve, and 3-4 half assed (yeah, half assed they dont even have to be played well) scout/wn's or scout/knight's is all you need in sw to counter the rogues. Except everyone in siege war is either a priest/scout or a r/s so its just a gank fest. Whoops, guess ppl dident think that one through.

Quoted from "ChetMichael;539750"

I agree with you completely. The rogues HAVE every advantage in this game and no disadvantages (aside from possibly not having an Areo of Effect attack (BUT! who needs one when you 1 hit Everything). The only true nemesis they have are other rogues.

They are the easiest to stat class-- with the most gratifying results (i.e. physical damage).

Hide instantly with no consequence.

Leather armor (better than cloth)

While it may be an old argument it is a completely vadid one. I am not saying Nerf the rogues ( I like them they way they are ) but perhaps make other classes more resistant to them.

Hmmm disadvantages...

They're glass cannons; they get one-shot just like any softie class...

they run on 100 energy unlike mana, only 1 hit left after you premed and shadow prison...

they can't hide when there are eyes around (pertains only to sw)...

they get spotted by scouts (although it's still easy to outmaneuver a scout)...