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Saturday, May 5th 2012, 5:33am

Group Heal, how much can you heal for normally?

I am really just trying to see where I sit at when trying to use group heal at max with my mage gear. How much can you cure yourself or party members for without any buffs? Just gear alone and let me know. The only reason i ask, is because with group heal at level 70 and I am using my mage gear which has some wisdom mixed in there. I critical hit the heals 72% of the time at 70k. I only see every so often 1-2 heals go not critical.

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Saturday, May 5th 2012, 5:40pm

Without any buffs at all... not even my self P/K buff, (Note this does include my Nautilus Shell Leader title) my GH sits at:

~50.2K non critical
~112-118K critical hits

I don't think I've ever healed a group of 6 and not had at least ONE group heal critical. It's extremely rare. Usually quite a few of them crit.
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Saturday, May 5th 2012, 6:39pm

We got a priest that GH for 225k crit in EDH. But also watchin tosh videos on youtube theres a priest on there using a staff that hit 300k + group heal, i almost pooooped my pants lol , but dont forget thats with a staff not a wand and a shield, which you should be usin.

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Saturday, May 5th 2012, 7:12pm

Ya it's pretty easy to hit over 200K with a staff. With my t10 Clown I can do about 180K crits. Would be much higher with a staff but i'd miss my pdef too much XD

But except for bragging rights it doesn't really matter. Most of your dps aren't gonna average much over 120K hp anyway. Only person a 200-300K GH is gonna benefit is the tank and you.
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Saturday, May 5th 2012, 8:29pm

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Wednesday, June 27th 2012, 4:54am

So as a priest should you use staff or wand?
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Wednesday, June 27th 2012, 7:19pm

Quoted from "Shadowkuna;541464"

So as a priest should you use staff or wand?


Really depends on your preference, but in my opinion priests should use wand/shield. The extra stats, hp, stam, def all make yourself more survivable. Last time I checked, if you die then you can't heal anyone. Also, it will make you a better siege weapon to be more durable when healing people.
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Wednesday, June 27th 2012, 7:23pm

Quoted from "Shadowkuna;541464"

So as a priest should you use staff or wand?


My philosophy has always been if you're not a /k, don't use a shield. But that's just my opinion. If I was anything but a P/K i wouldn't use a shield or stat the way that I do (5/6 pdef a piece). I'd rather have the higher heals of a staff with any other combination.
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Wednesday, June 27th 2012, 7:46pm

And, Shadowkuna I see you sometimes talking like a battlemonk. Of course a battlemonk would be using an axe and shield, so would have a statted/tiered shield already available; so the move to wand and shield for healing would be self evident.

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Friday, June 29th 2012, 8:06am

Quoted from "Shadowkuna;541464"

So as a priest should you use staff or wand?


All priest class combo's should be using wand/tali (except those painful pvp p/s's and p/w of course XD). The reason? Not only does it give you an extra stat list but the main benefit is those extra wep runes. Having 2 burst, Miracle, recon and most importantly Curse runes is far more effective. A priests main concern is cast rate and crit. As mentioned in some of the other posts a staff gives stronger heals, but i would take the extra crit (is no crit resistance when healing players :D) and cast speed over the extra heals. (What is the point of casting 1 strong uh on somebody if you couldn't get in another fast enough on a different player?)
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Friday, June 29th 2012, 9:04am

I used to crit for 180k with my group heal. Of course, I also had the highest Wisdom on Reni. I kind of miss those days :/ Meh, I've moved on lol. What I used was a wand and a talisman, and stacked as much healing bonus as I could get. I did the math and the healing bonus provided by the two including the magic damage is more than the staff itself. So go that route if you aren't going for damage.
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Friday, June 29th 2012, 9:10am

There's no REASON to need to crit that high though. As long as your GH's are critting over 100K it really doesn't matter that much if they're any higher.

Plus wisdom doesn't do squat after 8K so doesn't really matter if you stat more after that.

If you're p/k, use a shield. If you're p/anything else, use a talisman or a 2h staff.
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Saturday, June 30th 2012, 9:03am

Quoted from "Borella;542160"

If you're p/k, use a shield. If you're p/anything else, use a talisman or a 2h staff.


I know p/k with a shield is awesome because of the insane pdef, but really you should still be using tali. I only use shield if i need to tank or if the tank dies, in which case i have it on my action bar for easy access. But besides that the runes in the Tali make up for the loss in pdef. 2 Curse runes speeds up those urgent and group heals quite a lot, and considering p/k really has no effective HoT's you need to be casting heals as fast as possible.
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Tuesday, July 3rd 2012, 5:36pm

Quoted from "CammoXD;542417"

I know p/k with a shield is awesome because of the insane pdef, but really you should still be using tali. I only use shield if i need to tank or if the tank dies, in which case i have it on my action bar for easy access. But besides that the runes in the Tali make up for the loss in pdef. 2 Curse runes speeds up those urgent and group heals quite a lot, and considering p/k really has no effective HoT's you need to be casting heals as fast as possible.


Depends, I have a wand and shield as a p/k and i have about 135-150k gh. I will not use a tali because there isn't much point in having a higher gh atm when all the dps barely have that much hp. What about the tank you might say. My urgent heal crits from 65k to 75k, so I will stick with wand and shield until content requires otherwise.
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Tuesday, July 3rd 2012, 5:40pm

Quoted from "Winston;543008"

Depends, I have a wand and shield as a p/k and i have about 135-150k gh. I will not use a tali because there isn't much point in having a higher gh atm when all the dps barely have that much hp. What about the tank you might say. My urgent heal crits from 65k to 75k, so I will stick with wand and shield until content requires otherwise.


Yup.. there's no need to have a GH any higher than I already have. And the shield helps so much that there's no reason to use a Talisman. If I was going to go talisman I would just go staff. The entire reason I use a wand is for the pdef and stats on the shield.
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Tuesday, July 3rd 2012, 5:56pm

Quoted from "CammoXD;542417"

I know p/k with a shield is awesome because of the insane pdef, but really you should still be using tali. I only use shield if i need to tank or if the tank dies, in which case i have it on my action bar for easy access. But besides that the runes in the Tali make up for the loss in pdef. 2 Curse runes speeds up those urgent and group heals quite a lot, and considering p/k really has no effective HoT's you need to be casting heals as fast as possible.


Pretty sure priests can get by fine without the extra casting speed. Another curse rune doesn't do squat for GH, you would just stack higher heal exhaustions? If you're in a pinch, last prayer + gh or soul source. If it is a boss fight I am using ancient spirit water and clear thought, plus I have my pet's increased casting speed lvl'd as high as possible - I promise the UH are casting just fine.

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Tuesday, July 3rd 2012, 7:25pm

Quoted from "humilitea;543017"

Pretty sure priests can get by fine without the extra casting speed. Another curse rune doesn't do squat for GH, you would just stack higher heal exhaustions? If you're in a pinch, last prayer + gh or soul source. If it is a boss fight I am using ancient spirit water and clear thought, plus I have my pet's increased casting speed lvl'd as high as possible - I promise the UH are casting just fine.


+1 It's easy enough to get Urgent down to the casting speed cap of .5, and once it's there, it can't go any lower, so the casting speed increase of another Curse would do nothing to it. So i'll take my shield and that extra ton of buffed pdef over a curse rune anyday.
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Friday, July 13th 2012, 2:09pm

Quoted from "tmblake09;542158"

What I used was a wand and a talisman, and stacked as much healing bonus as I could get. I did the math and the healing bonus provided by the two including the magic damage is more than the staff itself. So go that route if you aren't going for damage.


Well depends on the staff... and if its tier 11 or not, but going with a tiered staff you trade heals for lost of off-hand stats. Going with wand + shield or talisman is a better choice than a tiered 2-hand staff. But its all opinion based.

Quoted from "Borella;542160"


Plus wisdom doesn't do squat after 8K so doesn't really matter if you stat more after that.


Wisdom still has an affect on heals but is very minimal after a certain point. That point increases a little as level cap increases just as critical percentage value per point decrease with every level increase.

Quoted from "Winston;543008"

Depends, I have a wand and shield as a p/k and i have about 135-150k gh. I will not use a tali because there isn't much point in having a higher gh atm when all the dps barely have that much hp. What about the tank you might say. My urgent heal crits from 65k to 75k, so I will stick with wand and shield until content requires otherwise.


Pretty much a good answer. But whether using a talisman or shield its up to preference of the healer or situation. Talisman is useful against magic users or magic based attacks, which I use in pvp if I am fighting against lots of magic users. Extra critical from burst runes probably add 1% critical so its not too huge of a gain. But if you are perhaps using a Aoth scared defense shield or annelia shield those are very good to have and shouldn't really have the need to use a talisman. If you have a tank shield with no heal bonus is good for extra physical defense but not really ideal to have.

Quoted from "humilitea;543017"

Pretty sure priests can get by fine without the extra casting speed. Another curse rune doesn't do squat for GH, you would just stack higher heal exhaustions? If you're in a pinch, last prayer + gh or soul source. If it is a boss fight I am using ancient spirit water and clear thought, plus I have my pet's increased casting speed lvl'd as high as possible - I promise the UH are casting just fine.


Ancient spirit water and clear thought do not stack and using ancient spirit water overrides clear thought. Although the only priest class that has a consistent .5 urgent heal (which is the limit) is p/r due to their elites. Having extra curse runes will still benefit cast time even after initial burn phase. But also dependent on the preference of the healer and class combo. Any priest is fine without or with a extra curse runes you wouldn't notice to much a difference anyways unless you carrying curse X.
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Tuesday, July 24th 2012, 5:54pm

I use a wand and 1h hammer from tosh mem vendor (p/r) i rarely find the need to group heal unless i see an AoE cast coming highest ive critted was 140k but im still healing with mostly RT sets healing bonus from hammer is nice plus you get a some extra damage mines clean t7 currently at 8k mdmg 4.3 healing power not many p/r that ive seen which i dont understand not many on my server can keep up with my constant .5 urgents or 1.5 gh






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