Runes of Magic US / AU

You don't need to max every skill just lvl ones that you use often, and that are usefull, if you lvl your toon during an xp event you will have a big shortage of tp, but its not the end of the world! I only have 3 or 4 skills maxed, and do juuust fine.
To earn more tp, grind mob kills during tp events, always do your 10 dalies a day and if you have the dias, buy tp charms and potions ^_^

That completely depends on your playstyle.

If he likes to play multiple class combos, ie. m/wd, wd/m, s/wd and wd/s etc etc, then yeah... tp will become a bigger issue because he will need lots of tp to put in all those elite skills.

If on the other hand, he picks one or maybe two class combos, say wd/s and s/wd, or m/s and m/wd etc, tp becomes a lot more manageable. He'll just need enough tp to level two sets of elite skills.

I play three class combos myself, m/p, m/s and p/s, and I am constantly tp starved. The best news for me is that magic casting combos don't derive nearly as much benefit from leveling attack skills as melee combos do, so I can get away with a lot of level 50 skills. I still want all my skills that I use to be level 70 though, so what I personally do is TP farm.

Don't waste your time buying orbs, ever. TP/XP orbs are obscenely overpriced when it comes to bang per buck. You get 100,000 tp from a 250 dia orb- you get 260,000 tp from a 50 dia (full price) daily reset ticket if you do a Xaviera daily (butterflies or dog meats).

Pots are a better deal, as is TP furniture, considering that you can get the "freebie" tp and xp pots from Adventurer Packages if you buy Zeevex, and tp furniture is forever and gives you a passive bonus.

Tell your hubby to strategize a little with his tp, and just suffer a little at the level he currently is. When he gets a bit bigger he can make up some of that lost tp by farming mobs during extra tp events and also tell him to do his dailies every day. Dailies are your number one source of needed tp. Remember too, when you get to max level you'll stop getting xp, but you accumulate tp forever. There's a nifty tp gathering trick waiting for him when he gets to 70 also; the easy mode instance Tomb of Seven Heroes has some magical tp making bugs in it that he will love.

In the meantime, have him get some tp furniture, and make sure he logs out each night in his house on his warden class, so he can accrue the max bonus.

Just don't let him waste any money on orbs. And don't let him reroll or discard a class he likes. He might want to focus on one class combo at a time though. YMMV.

Another way to help yourself to extras is to open up your housing, you can get items from the token shops that give tp/exp bonus points while LOGGED OFF IN YOUR HOUSE, when you log back into the game you will see an increase in your tp/exp earned, but need to go "earn" them also, eg: go fight some monsters lol, also can look on your experience bar for the saved total amount, it can be capped out, but not sure at where.

Thank you all for the suggestions. I am the hubby in question (and thank you, love, for asking).

I already have 490 in TP furniture and I am so obsessive that I will do things like not leave my house for seige until the TP tick, if I am anywhere near my house near at the hour, run in for the tick, if I am crafting, stop so I can run in for the tick. I will log back in after logging off to make absolutely certain I am in my house. I am very careful to log off in my house on my warden as well.

I asked in another question about this and have decided that scrapping my wd/m in favor of my wd/s is probably a good plan. So, on the reset, I will put all of my warden points on wd/s, ignoring wd/m for now. I am interested in seeing what is going to happen with the expansion.

I do not like killing a single thing without my house TP bonus and will not play my warden without it. When I am out of TP bonus, I play my m/wd (the other class combo I like). I only level my Scout to keep my Wd/S viable and have no TP bonus on him.

I am a bit obsessed.

Oh, the mindset I am coming from is an ex beastmaster Hunter in WoW who tanked instances. I left WoW for many reasons and, when I hit RoM, I had a "yipee I can play a strong pet class again!" moment.

With dailies, isn't the tp vs xp ratio the same? If so, am I not going to wind up in the same problems I am in now? Are Xaviera dailies different in TP?

What level is your toon right now?

You are going to have TP problems no matter what class combo you play.

TP is always 1/10 of XP for kills/quests before any XP/TP bonuses are applied.

Hello hubby-in-question

I have a guildie who is so tp-obsessed that he refuses to do quests of any kind during xp events lol, so I know how you feel.

To a certain extent, at level 40 or so you can afford to relax a little. Being tp-poor sucks, but it won't kill you, and you will recover massive amounts of tp once you hit level cap.

Yes, the daily ratio of tp vs xp is the same on all dailies, but the level 56 or 57 quests (can't remember offhand) in Xaviera give the highest total xp/tp of all dailies (with a few annoying and arcane exceptions that are functionally irrelevant). Using those dailies when they are level-appropriate will cause you to level faster, and you'll still be tp-poor, but as soon as you hit level cap you'll be cashing in on the high tp gain.

Being tp-poor is a transient state in RoM as long as you are diligent about farming and doing dailies, and you sound super-diligent. This too shall pass.

Ironically, the best thing you can do to get max tp is sacrifice it in the short-term and level to max quickly, so you can accrue more of it in the long-term. Plus there are the bugs in Tomb of Seven Heroes. God bless the little buggers. Until you can level high enough to get into ToSH, and find some good farming buddies (even on easy you need a decently geared tank, healer and dps), you can always find high-level mobs to kill for their tp. Grinding tp is painful but rewarding. Become an obsessive grinder on tp-event weekends. Pop a pot, put your grinding mix cd on and bliss out.

I am level 40 on warden and reality has hit.

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I have a guildie who is so tp-obsessed that he refuses to do quests of any kind during xp events

*raises hand* That is me! Been there, done that. Ground, with pots, for I have no clue how many hours on the 300% weekend, ground, with pots, for a good chunk of this last 150% weekend. I refused to quest on TP bonus weekends and, when there is a quest xp bonus, not only do I refuse to turn in quests but I cuss at Frogster.

Last weekend was when we realized that we cannot keep up this TP thing forever. An example of how much we ground this last weekend: between my wife and I, we filled a dozen 100,000 TP charms... and had to stop when we realized how expensive this is. All but 1 of these went to feed my warden.

That is when I realized that, yes, I am an addict. We used up every diamond we had finishing up the orbs and we are not buying more. We spent part of my vacation check on diamonds, they are gone, even when they come on sale again, we are not buying many at all.

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To a certain extent, at level 40 or so you can afford to relax a little. Being tp-poor sucks, but it won't kill you, and you will recover massive amounts of tp once you hit level cap.

I have, I think it was, 1,300,000 of unused TP on that toon but I hit reality hard when I realized how little this actually is once I get higher in level.

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Yes, the daily ratio of tp vs xp is the same on all dailies, but the level 56 or 57 quests (can't remember offhand) in Xaviera give the highest total xp/tp of all dailies (with a few annoying and arcane exceptions that are functionally irrelevant). Using those dailies when they are level-appropriate will cause you to level faster, and you'll still be tp-poor, but as soon as you hit level cap you'll be cashing in on the high tp gain.

I am going to have to work a bit at getting this to settle easily into my worldview. It makes me twitch a bit right now. "Being tp-poor is a transient state" might become my new mantra. Well, I will try for it at least.

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Become an obsessive grinder on tp-event weekends. Pop a pot, put your grinding mix cd on and bliss out.

100 percent pots running full, what we did last weekend was decide to go as high as Wardenly and Priestly possible for shiggles and gits and grind a level below that. I was level 38 (my wife at 39) and we had to stop at level 50 because the mobs were coming from a few States over to attack us. Our hit boxes must have been the size of Canada. Lvl 38 Chiron could take out 1 to 2 lvl 50s but not floods of them. Then we spent I have no freaking clue how long grinding level 49 mobs as Chiron slaughtered everything, my wife healing and bubbling him so we did not have to stop, our magical pets looting.

Oh, yes, the tunes were blasting.

Oh god, I cannot even imagine grinding that long. o.O That is dedication.

Ok, to put this in perspective for you, like I said, I consider myself to be tp poor (because I am). My 2 year old toon is levels 70/70/58 and I have 80mil tp total on my mage and I think only 60 mil on my poor priesty. Poor scoutlet doesn't need any tp at all, so I just let her languish. Before you panic, I should add that I am one of those insanely lazy people who never does dailies at all, unless it's a new chapter and then I do one class exclusively with dailies to cap and quest the other one up. I am a bad, bad girl.

Now, I missed the exciting tp weekend, but one of my friends spent a few hours grinding the buggies in ToSH, and she raised her tp (on her priest no less) from 200million, to something obscene like 240 million, averaging something like 8mil tp per hour of grinding or so. She has enough tp to max even the crappy priest skills to max for at least 10 more levels. Now, to do so, she needed her guild's tank and the cooperation of her warrior guildie friend- but they wanted tp too, so it's a very popular thing to do on extra-tp weekends.

So, I promise, it gets better. Don't sweat it. You have time. Relax and level, choose only the skills you really use to put tp in now, and just rack up that passive furniture bonus. Stock up on tp pots, promise me you'll never buy another tp charm (I succumbed to the same syndrome the last time I leveled an alt until I did the math on the Xaviera daily and then I wanted to kill myself).

And what server are you playing on Gregorii? I kinda wanna recruit you, you have style! Come to Notorious, we have cookies!

Also, it is not worth buying TP orbs to fill. Cheaper to buy daily resets and do it that way. Plus you can get TP from farming the daily items.

Dedication? I think of it as I am more like the TP equivalent of a drug addict combined with OCD.

I swear on my moss covered centaur to not buy more TP charms. Yeesh, I realized what a rip off they are.

I have been thinking about it as I quest tonight and just cannot wrap my mind around pushing up my warden through dailies because a part of my mind starts screaming "think of the TP, think of the TP." So, I will take longer to achieve max level which is find with me. I will continue not killing things on my warden unless I have my house bonus. I switch to my m/wd when I am out of TP bonus.

When they have a diamond sale again, I will finish out my TP furniture.

Heh, I am on Artemis. I have style, but most of it is bad. Think of me as the MMO equivalent of the guy dressed in three different kinds of plaid.

I wish we could kill ourselves, discharge TP debt only, and live in a state of perpetual xp debt.

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Thank you all for the suggestions. I am the hubby in question (and thank you, love, for asking).

I already have 490 in TP furniture and I am so obsessive that I will do things like not leave my house for seige until the TP tick, if I am anywhere near my house near at the hour, run in for the tick, if I am crafting, stop so I can run in for the tick. I will log back in after logging off to make absolutely certain I am in my house. I am very careful to log off in my house on my warden as well.

I asked in another question about this and have decided that scrapping my wd/m in favor of my wd/s is probably a good plan. So, on the reset, I will put all of my warden points on wd/s, ignoring wd/m for now. I am interested in seeing what is going to happen with the expansion.

I do not like killing a single thing without my house TP bonus and will not play my warden without it. When I am out of TP bonus, I play my m/wd (the other class combo I like). I only level my Scout to keep my Wd/S viable and have no TP bonus on him.

I am a bit obsessed.

Oh, the mindset I am coming from is an ex beastmaster Hunter in WoW who tanked instances. I left WoW for many reasons and, when I hit RoM, I had a "yipee I can play a strong pet class again!" moment.

With dailies, isn't the tp vs xp ratio the same? If so, am I not going to wind up in the same problems I am in now? Are Xaviera dailies different in TP?

Yes, you *might* be just a tad bit obsessive with your TP gathering and reluctance to quest during bonus XP events. But it's a bit understandable. I do have a few tips for you which have worked for me.

First, if you and your wife are buying diamonds, invest in perhaps a couple more pieces of TP furniture. For this, there's no set, or "hard and fast" XP/TP ratio. But in the past, I've personally used a 1:2 ratio or 1:3 ratio, XP to TP. If you're not obsessive (there's that word again) about how the furniture is arranged in your house or what it looks like, just try to find the highest-value TP furniture (usually 30 TP) and pair two, or maybe three of those. Then match it with XP furniture at the 1:2 ratio (30 XP : 60 TP, for example or a 1:3 ratio (20 XP : 60 TP).

Don't rush to your house to get your bonus on the tick at the top of the hour. Unless you're playing RoM for 8-10 hours straight, you're wasting time and effort, or Home Sweet Home runes, to get home for what's really a small bump in your reserve bonus XP/TP. Logging out inside your house is the key.

Remember that each of your classes has a separate TP pool. So, you will need to decide which two of those classes are going to be the ones you'll use most often and focus on those. You'll have to split some of your logged-off house time between those classes, which is a relatively minor consideration.

And, as your classes level up, the XP and TP bonuses you get from your furniture items will increase. In fact, after awhile it will be difficult to use up most or all of your accrued bonuses. I'm not saying that it can't be done--I used up every last bit of the accrued bonuses for the Priest side of my R/S/P during the recent events. Sadly, and since I'm cheap, I have the standard 10 furniture slots in my toons' houses. 8 of those are taken up by 20-slot Storage Chests, so I have one 20XP and one 30TP furniture piece with which to rebuild my bonus pools. Sucks to be me, I guess. (The Rogue side has 0 XP/TP house bonuses at the moment, the Scout side, @ lvl 70, is maxed on both.)

If you and your wife are buying diamonds and spending some on non-offer items, you'll receive rubies as a small reward. In the Ruby Shop, there are potions which will boost your XP and TP by 100% for 2 hours and 1 hour, respectively. And, of course, you can use the lesser 50% XP and TP potions from the main Diamond Shop. Definitely, in your case, use anything (pots, foods, or guild castle buff towers) that will increase the amount of TP that you gain when killing mobs--they won't work for turning in quests, sadly.

TP charms (and specifically, the Superior TP charms) are okay to buy, but *only* when they're on offer @ 50% of the regular price. The 100K orbs from the Superior charms can be used to fill in when you're half a slug short of being able to level a critical or particularly useful skill. If you have enough of them saved up, perhaps two levels.

And now, the biggest issue: Determining which skills for your two main classes (and elites for them) to use regularly and upgrade. That's going to depend on the classes, of course. Look on the forums for some of the class build guides, and talk with your guildies who have similar class combos. But remember that the build guides and your guildies' builds will be *opinions*, not decisions which are set in stone, or the god's honest biblical truth. And the gear (armor, weapons, and accessories), along with whatever stats you add to them, are going to modify the skills you level and use.

I hope this gives you at least a little bit of help.

Might be a tad obsessive? Who, me?

As soon as they have a diamond sale again, I plan on maxing out my TP furniture. This one is already planned. I also only am in my house on my warden. I figure that I will, when I manage to eventually max out my warden, I can start working on my mage.

I can put all the oogly furniture in my basement and ignore it so I am good. I would like to get some nice rugs and other things but I cannot stand the thought of having xp anything in there. Obsessive?

I have not seen 30 tp furniture. Mine is 25.

I only go for the tick when I am in town. I will not spend money on home sweet home runes unless I have to and the tick is not have to. I am already displeased with Frogster over the lack of sales and upped prices. My only planned spends are to finish out my TP furniture, get TP pots, a couple of cheap others, and, other than that, I am going to do my best to be f2p.

We have already learned about the ruby shop TP pots.

I grind mobs a lot more than I turn in quests. When I am out farming ore, herbs, and wood, Chiron is busy farming mobs.

Here is how crazy I am (this has nothing to do with TP): when I am farming, if Chiron is not killing things, I think he is slacking off and we are doing it wrong. Here is even more crazy: in my mind, Chiron is the main toon. He does most of the killing, I am support. It is the mindset I carried over from being a beastmaster Hunter.

If I could turn off my xp until I have my tp where I want it, I would. If I could cancel my tp death debt while leaving my xp death debt, I would suicide a lot.

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If I could cancel my tp death debt while leaving my xp death debt, I would suicide a lot.

This is an easy one, just dont use xp furniture in your house, only tp. That way when you are out grinding, eventually you will still have xp debt but no tp debt.....

Amazing that you would spend 5x as many dias on 100k tp orb as you would on a daily reset that gives 260k tp.... once you hit lvl cap its all tp (no xp is awarded) so just doing the simple math your spending 250 dia for 100k tp using an orb when you could buy 5 reset tickets and get 1.3mil tp as they say they're your diamonds......

I can tell you that I did many of the recommendations above. One of the best is the tp bonus from house furniture only and then just carry xp debt/0 tp debt. That automatically gives close to 1tp/1ep ratio.

I recommend:
tp pots(both party and individual)
tp food
xp debt/no tp debt
tp house furniture
tp guild castle tower
master disciple buff(the master gets the extra tp bonus)
grind mobs on ep/tp events, daily quest turnins on secondary.
pets that give tp bonus(ie zodiac)
reset tickets*

*reset tickets also work for guild quest and repeatable quest. The pasper shrine guild daily is really easy to get to and quick to do, plus it can be a gold run as well.

I selectively level skills. The TP costs will lessen once you hit level 50 since about 300,000 TP is used to upgrade those passive level 50 capped skills such as Two-Handed Mastery.

Generally, I select one main DPS skill to invest TP in (charged chop personally), and then totally ignore the others. Power of the Wood Spirit is nice if you like to tank since you'll be hitting 3 mobs at once. That being said, you won't get the sheer destructive single target capabilities of Charged Chop.

So, as a general warden, here's what your going to want to put TP into:

-Charged Chop OR Power of the Wood Spirit (don't invest in both, you'll just come up dry).
-Two handed weapon mastery.
-Passives like Protection of Nature and Natural Lifeline.
-Briar Shield ONLY AFTER YOU'VE GOT YOUR PASSIVES TO THEIR LEVEL 50 CAP. You won't have much pdef under level 55 so the boost won't be very effective at all and therefore not worth the TP investment until later.

Some of the pet skills are pretty much useless. Focus on 1 pet to help you. If you're using a DPS pet, you'll want to invest TP into Explosion of Power. It's pretty much a beserk mode for your pet

you get 100k tp pies from completing malas haunted house and getting a score over 100 on the ghost scaring thing in varanas west atm too