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Wednesday, May 16th 2012, 2:56pm

Priest/Rogue Weapon Choice

Im interested to know what weapon/s should a priest/rogue be using:
1 Staff
2 wand+hammer
3 wand+wand
4 wand+shield

And for what reasons (pve healing/dps or pvp)?

Im only level 40/40 but I'm planning to focus more on healing and im curious as to what I have to look foward to.

Is this a duel wielding class?

Thanks.

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Wednesday, May 16th 2012, 10:02pm

Yes, its a dual wielding class. Around lvl 55 you can dual wield two healing hammers if you want, and later you can do some other combos with wands + hammers, but at the moment it is argued that the best healing weapon set up in game is the end game 2H staff which gives a load of heal point bonus and magical damage.

Don't let that stop you from being a full fledged P/R dual wielding though. Either way, you can make it work. :)

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Friday, May 18th 2012, 12:58am

Thanks mate,

Thats good to hear that both the duel wield combo or a staff can work. (Duel wield looks very nice and unique) :D

Im thinking about re-rolling my third class (its scout and i find 1 button ice blade quite boring even if it is quite powerfull).
I'm curious to know if any priest combos use a shield?

I am aware that the battlemonk uses a shield+axe but are any of the other combos effective with a shield, such as priest/knight or even my priest/rogue? Im thinking that priest/knight my be good for this due to enhanced armour...

Is a shield better for pvp or when you arent healing?

Cheeers and thanks heaps for the help.

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Friday, May 18th 2012, 4:51am

As a p/r I will say go ahead and dual wield, I personally prefer staff, but two hammers with healing bonus is the same and your shadowstab will get you through pve questing. Yes you can carry a shield.

Advantage to dual wield is two speed runes, p/r is already the fastest healer but your heals will be insane. As for PvP you are support, purge to wipe buffs, curse of the snake to stun, and UH your people. I hope they fix the Dots chapter 5, as of now they fo not do percentage damage, so when it says you hit for 200 damage, that's all you get.

But p/r is the best highest crit healer in game, you also get dodge which does help often. With the new chapter coming its hard to tell what they are going to do to classes.

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Friday, May 18th 2012, 6:21am

wand+healing hammer would probably be your best choice

tier mainhand
stats offhand ( t7 or maybe even t8 )

it should give you around just as good heal as a 2hand staff ( maybe slightly better maybe slightly worse too tired to run som calcs ) but you will either way get good heal + stats from offhand
not to mention you get 4 more weapon rune slots, curse ( cast speed ), miracle ( mdmg ), burst ( magic crit ), and last rune i actually dont know what healers use :p

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Friday, May 18th 2012, 6:38am

Recon? Lol.

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Friday, May 18th 2012, 7:14pm

Quoted from "gokarter77;531162"

Thanks mate,

Thats good to hear that both the duel wield combo or a staff can work. (Duel wield looks very nice and unique) :D

Im thinking about re-rolling my third class (its scout and i find 1 button ice blade quite boring even if it is quite powerfull).
I'm curious to know if any priest combos use a shield?

I am aware that the battlemonk uses a shield+axe but are any of the other combos effective with a shield, such as priest/knight or even my priest/rogue? Im thinking that priest/knight my be good for this due to enhanced armour...

Is a shield better for pvp or when you arent healing?

Cheeers and thanks heaps for the help.


If you aren't healing don't bother with a shield. Otherwise most priest combos and even some druids use wand + shield. At a certain point the mdam from a 2-hander or other dual wielding options become pointless - they only make a noticeable difference in hots (which is why most druids still use 2h). In other words they won't add to your heals that much - therefore the pdef and stam from a shield are much better for survivability.

And yeah I do know a lot of priests that do wand + talisman in boss fights and then only use their shield for pvp - but it doesn't really make that much of a difference, plus you'd be statting/plussing two end game pieces of gear.


Quoted from "Zetpro;531162"

stats offhand ( t7 or maybe even t8 )

LOL, don't do this. I would only t8 like an annelia shield - for the extra pdef. If it is a hammer or other offhand i don't even think i would t7 unless it was endgame and you have the money to spend on it.

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Friday, May 18th 2012, 7:37pm

For leveling purposes, go with a 2h Staff. It will provide you better magical damage because there aren't any offhand weapons you can use in the 55 and lower range. Shield is predominantly for PvP. 2h Staff is very easy to use and very cost effective. If you get deep into the endgame and want to really upgrade, I suggest you get the Wand + Hammer combo. It for sure provides more magical damage and healing power than using an Annelia's Left Hand (Healing Shield). While you do lose a lot of physical defense, you gain much more from using an offhand hammer and shouldn't be taking hits in instances at all really. A lot of other priests don't even have to opportunity to see the true advantages of using an offhand weapon.

Comparison for those of you skeptics out there: runes database comparison

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Friday, May 18th 2012, 9:00pm

Quoted from "Rossbot;531249"

For leveling purposes, go with a 2h Staff. It will provide you better magical damage because there aren't any offhand weapons you can use in the 55 and lower range. Shield is predominantly for PvP. 2h Staff is very easy to use and very cost effective. If you get deep into the endgame and want to really upgrade, I suggest you get the Wand + Hammer combo. It for sure provides more magical damage and healing power than using an Annelia's Left Hand (Healing Shield). While you do lose a lot of physical defense, you gain much more from using an offhand hammer and shouldn't be taking hits in instances at all really. A lot of other priests don't even have to opportunity to see the true advantages of using an offhand weapon.

Comparison for those of you skeptics out there: runes database comparison


Yes for leveling absolutely go with a staff. There isn't even a good wand until RT level imo. After that what weapon combo you use is purely based on your play style.

So from this comparison, you would get like 550 healing added from the extra mdam. It really isn't that noticeable if you are already endgame statted. 10k pdef base is extremely noticeable. And in GCH and Tosh hard, even in sc I can't tell you how many times the tank has been stunned or just did a crappy pull and I end up tanking. The shield has saved the party and myself a dozen times at least.In "deep endgame" I usually am the tank and I am two or three manning boss fights. So saying you shouldn't be getting hit in instances is not all that realistic. Considering my GH when buffed can heal for twice of most peoples hp, I am not sure what the benefit would be besides having the mdam for killing mobs(which you wouldn't be doing in instances).


Like i said, you can use whatever you want based on your play style. But in answer to some of the questions in this forum, yes priest combos use a shield - in fact I don't think I know any endgame priests that don't at least have one.

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Saturday, May 19th 2012, 10:55am

Thanks guys.

I think I will plan on being p/r/k and run priest/rogue duel wield or staff as my main and switch to priest/knight when more defense is required (possibly with wand+shield).

Great to hear all weapon combos can be effective, espically with the ability to have faster casts with more curse runes.

I will be buying dia when endgame when i need to, so shouldnt be a problem.

Thanks for the help :D

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Tuesday, May 22nd 2012, 5:41pm

Healers are ALWAYS taking hits in instances. More so now cause of many dps combo's able to reach negative aggro, with the help of k/p elite. Telling any healer in GCH or ToSH that they wont take hits is just flat out wrong. Happens all the time with the big mob pulls in both.

For PvE, wear a tali/hammer, for pvp wear a shield. Unfortunately, what you will find out is that p/k is the far better for pve, do to elites and survivability, then p/r and you will probably just end up going p/k. Other then the spell casting elite, the other elites for p/r just plain suck for pve. P/r is meant for being a dmg dealing healer, much like p/s but again the elites don't scale well/suck.