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Quoted from "PorckyPiggy;532936"

I was always under the impression that P/S was a dps class that could also heal. But after I made one when i say i wanna dps people laugh or ask why.

P/S is only viable dps wise in siege war. Outside of siege war it's useless as a dps and only useful as a healer.

P/S is a good killer in PvP if you're in mage gear, but you won't be useful outside of PvP.
P/S is a good healer if you have healer gear, but you won't be able to kill very well in PvP.

Quoted from "Borella;532937"

P/S is only viable dps wise in siege war. Outside of siege war it's useless as a dps and only useful as a healer.

P/S is a good killer in PvP if you're in mage gear, but you won't be useful outside of PvP.
P/S is a good healer if you have healer gear, but you won't be able to kill very well in PvP.

Disagree to an extent.
P/s is a good solo class for questing, and wicked in siege/pvp. Heals depend on how you gear.
There is gear with both MA and heal bonus, but not super common, using that you won't be top DPS, or top heals, but you won't be useless in instances.

I'm consistently 3rd DPS, and normally top heals according to scrut.
You will have a hard time with pugs, because most people think P/s is a straight DPS priest, but P/s does have good heals.
I have a hard time getting invited to pugs, but once people have run with me a time or two, I'm often the first one they invite on the next run.

I'd say P/S is one of the best healers to be honest. And even mage geared, you'd be way better off just as a mage.

The reason P/S isn't good dps in an instance is because they have no burn phase whatsoever and cast speed buffs or whatever don't really help when you're iceblading.

If you want to know about p/s in pvp, please refer to one of the many QQ threads with like 1k posts

I fully disagree with people who say, p/s is only good in sw. It's good nearly everywhere, and that is all from spamming only one bugged skill. Only area where p/s lack is burst phase, but that is only couple seconds at the start of every boss fight. if you ask me, I'd remove whole being able to burn bosses from the game completely, unless boss is over 2-3 chapters old already...

P/S is above average in in Siege. Having 2 group heals, one that hit's your party and Curing shot to hit the others. Works very well in instances also.
A P/S DPS is fantastic in Siege and great for questing. While you won't be at the Top of the DPS scale in instances if your in a well geared party you should fit in around the middle.
P/S and every other Priest DOES have a burn phase at the begining of a fight. Every Priest has the option for instruments and spirit water to get Rising tide to a 1 second cast. Leave Ice blade on the sideline when your in a burn phase and pick it up when your potions wear off.
Then you'll be doing the DPS you should be doing on a boss fight.
If you don't believe me about Priest burn phase, ask around and find those that I out DPS as my P/K in RT.

i have to agree with Turbo i have also been in the top 2 spots for dps in rt.but to do this it is expensive.i get my rising tide to .6 seconds for 20 seconds and do around 170k per rising tide. ancient spirit water + arcane poition + guitar.i have also spent a fortune to get the gear i have.1 set of mage gear and 1 set of healer gear.

There's just absolutely no reason to dps as a p/s in an instance. Might as well go mage in the same gear and do double or triple the damage.

Quoted from "PorckyPiggy;532936"

I was always under the impression that P/S was a dps class that could also heal. But after I made one when i say i wanna dps people laugh or ask why.

To answer your question of what is a P/S, two words: "Ice Blade".

Quoted from "Lavenderine;532960"

I fully disagree with people who say, p/s is only good in sw. It's good nearly everywhere, and that is all from spamming only one bugged skill. Only area where p/s lack is burst phase, but that is only couple seconds at the start of every boss fight. if you ask me, I'd remove whole being able to burn bosses from the game completely, unless boss is over 2-3 chapters old already...

That "only a couple seconds" is when a mage does 80% of their total damage on average; even more if the boss fight is short.

I am M/P/S and I played around with p/s burn mode dps, using guitar, spirit water, arcane pot, and a scout's tiered bow (since the fairy gives Rising Tide bonus damage based on bow damage). Frankly, it sucked. I did 1/3rd of the damage I can do on my mage, in the exact same gear.

In my opinion, and I've tested this extensively, p/s is not viable dps in instances. I have used p/s successfully in only one instance, Sardo Castle, and only on two bosses- first and second. That's because Ice Blade is ideal for breaking barrels and also for killing traps on second boss. Now that my group has enough dps to burn boss 2 without doing traps, I take my mage to Sardo instead. There's nothing a dps P/S can do in an instance that a mage can't do better.

P/S geared for healing, on the other hand, is a powerful asset to an instance group. There's nothing better, in my opinion, than having one p/k, one p/s and one p/r in a group. Add a druid into the mix, and you're golden. The diversity of buffs, having the p/k anchor-heal the tank, the p/s using curing shot interwoven with GH, the p/r popping off next to instant urgents as needed, and the druid hotting everyone and using their instant raid-wide party heal is... fabulous.

P/S geared for heals is also perfectly capable of solo-healing a six-man. It's a strong healer.

It just does not have enough dps to contribute in a meaningful way in instances. You can take a mage-geared dps p/s to DoD or HoS and be fine, assuming you are geared for ToSH, but you'll still only do OK dps. Change classes at a housemaid, get on your mage, and look at the difference. DPS p/s is a pvp one-trick pony.

Quoted from "L3g3nd;532986"

To answer your question of what is a P/S, two words: "Ice Blade".

When leveling, yes. When in PvP, yes.

In a party, a P/S is: Curing Shot, Group Heal, Urgent Heal. In a party, a p/s is just a priest with a bow.

Quoted from "mnkmurphy885;533013"

When leveling, yes. When in PvP, yes.

In a party, a P/S is: Curing Shot, Group Heal, Urgent Heal. In a party, a p/s is just a priest with a bow.

Yes. P/S is ONLY Iceblade when levelling and in PvP. Though even in PvP.. it's still more than that. Candy, Cake, HA, HCS, Soul Source, Urgent heal.

But Iceblade has nothing to do with anything in an instance. As Fan's long explanation said: P/S sucks in instances as a dps, but it is a phenomenal healer, beat out only by P/K, and even then it's barely.

Quoted from "Borella;532984"

There's just absolutely no reason to dps as a p/s in an instance. Might as well go mage in the same gear and do double or triple the damage.

Depends on the rest of your party. Not every group is made up of OP DPS, nor do you always have the exact preferred template of what classes you have available to take into the instance. Since the in game population of "End Gamers" is consistently dwindling there are lot's of occasions where a P/S DPS'ing in an instance is completely worth while as they can balance a party with say an extra half healer and extra half DPS'er.
But a very good reason to Bring a P/S instead of a mage if the rest of your party is slightly lacking in DPS is during the burn phase (first 20 seconds or so) all the caster speed buffs increase the heal speed also so it's actually a nice fun rotation.

RT / RT / Curing shot / RT / RT / GH / RT / RT /GH,
Then when the buffs wear off jump right into
IB / BC /Curing Shot / IB / IB / GH / IB / BC / IB / GH

Maximum DPS and heals from a P/S and balances the party.
Now if you only run with OP DPS'ers then that changes things.
But realistically it's always more about the other people in your party, not yourself that decides whether your DPS is good enough, or not.

Quoted from "turboreaper666;533048"

Depends on the rest of your party. Not every group is made up of OP DPS, nor do you always have the exact preferred template of what classes you have available to take into the instance. Since the in game population of "End Gamers" is consistently dwindling there are lot's of occasions where a P/S DPS'ing in an instance is completely worth while as they can balance a party with say an extra half healer and extra half DPS'er.
But a very good reason to Bring a P/S instead of a mage if the rest of your party is slightly lacking in DPS is during the burn phase (first 20 seconds or so) all the caster speed buffs increase the heal speed also so it's actually a nice fun rotation.

RT / RT / Curing shot / RT / RT / GH / RT / RT /GH,
Then when the buffs wear off jump right into
IB / BC /Curing Shot / IB / IB / GH / IB / BC / IB / GH

Maximum DPS and heals from a P/S and balances the party.
Now if you only run with OP DPS'ers then that changes things.
But realistically it's always more about the other people in your party, not yourself that decides whether your DPS is good enough, or not.

That's true too Shadowlaw, and your experience is different than mine, since you're P/S/K, with no mage class to fall back on.

If you are M/P/S, there is never going to be a situation where you'll want to basically gimp your dps. If you have mage available, it outclasses p/s dps by at least two-thirds. But if you are healy or hybrid p/s/k or p/s/x, utility rules all. If you can manage to bridge that gap, I can see that being handy.

So, I guess it's more about combo than anything else. For a p/s/k, p/s is good dps. For an m/p/s, you'll get more hybrid utility from m/p than p/s. I can single-target heal as well on my m/p as my p/s. So I guess it would depend on what your party needs. But I know that in my experience as a mage/priest/scout, for dps I always always go mage. For utility off-heals, I go m/p. For crappy party heals (crappy cause my healy gear consists of three DoD-statted bits of Holy Source), I go p/s.

But p/s is definitely the best priest (caster, battlemonk excepted) dps available. Compared to a mage though, it's not a dps class.

Quoted from "Borella;533022"

Yes. P/S is ONLY Iceblade when levelling and in PvP. Though even in PvP.. it's still more than that. Candy, Cake, HA, HCS, Soul Source, Urgent heal.

But Iceblade has nothing to do with anything in an instance. As Fan's long explanation said: P/S sucks in instances as a dps, but it is a phenomenal healer, beat out only by P/K, and even then it's barely.

Yah you're right Bor, people forget we do use other stuff too. Don't forget Healing Salve, the bubble shield thinger, regenerate, and my new favorite toy, Garlic Bread Especially if you get a Curing Shot off before they get to you. Two hots and two healing power boosters is fun. It's kinda like having your own level 50 pocket priest lol, who only lives for 20 seconds.

You don't need Garlic Bread though, do ya, since you're a Real Priest. I'm just a mage in drag.

Quoted from "mnkmurphy885;533054"

Yah you're right Bor, people forget we do use other stuff too. Don't forget Healing Salve, the bubble shield thinger, regenerate, and my new favorite toy, Garlic Bread Especially if you get a Curing Shot off before they get to you. Two hots and two healing power boosters is fun. It's kinda like having your own level 50 pocket priest lol, who only lives for 20 seconds.

You don't need Garlic Bread though, do ya, since you're a Real Priest. I'm just a mage in drag.

I use Garlic Bread when healing like.. Annelia. XD