Runes of Magic US / AU

Scout can keep up in endgame for sure. S/wd is top dps and S/r is a very close second. I personally would play s/wd. The problem with S/R is that they only do good dps if you have lots of vamp arrows in the party. For PvP you want to be either s/wdn or s/k, PvE s/wd is top. S/R/Wdn is probably your best bet because you can go rogue if you decide you don't want to be a scout, or go wdn/s, both of which are great classes.

Quoted from "Soulvengeance;544835"

Would you say if they could keep up to the other classes if all were wearing lvl 55 non moded gear? Best lvl 55 gear for that lvl. Or is it a class that only begans performing later on?

I've only ever really had experience with running with scouts at endgame, so I can't say at that level. :/

i have played a scout main since i started playing this game...and i will say that scouts are definitely late bloomers. if you can play ur class right, and know how to kite, i'd say yes, a scout can keep up with other classes in pvp.
one of the best(for pvp), but over looked scout classes is s/p, as it gets 2 instant cast regens, which are perfect for kiting, as well as holy aura and fast snipe

Scout absolutely is worth playing. Of course physical DPS classes aren't going to be killing tanks. That's not their job, so don't worry about that. But aside from that, Scouts are absolutely competitive DPS at end-game. You won't be seeing the same kind of crazy burn damage you get from M/W or R/S, but there aren't a lot of classes that can match Scouts' sustained damage.

Borella is partially correct, in that S/R is dependent on having multiple Vampire Arrows in party to do personal damage. However, S/R gets TWO strong debuffs (Exploiting Shot and Sapping Arrow) which more than make up for the lack of Entling Offering. In terms of which one a party wants more, there's no question that S/R would be preferred.

S/P is mostly worthless aside from PvP or solo questing. Sure, it gets a party critical buff, and a casting/attack speed buff, but that speed is less than Strong Stimulant/Ancient Spirit Water, so there's no point. It gets no strong offensive PvE skills, and it doesn't do support as well as S/R.

All Scouts have their usefulness but the way this game is set up is just burning bosses and ignoring tactics so that being said S/Wd, S/W and S/R are 3 best in DPS, S/P and S/K for PvP. S/M has the ability to be good at pvp but only good S/M i ever knew was Rustystaff. S/D is just plain awful and i dont recommend playing it.

Quoted from "Soulvengeance;544830"

I play on a pvp server and most scouts i fight cant even take my knight on that has about 60%-75% of their grear.

Scouts are ranged attackers, so long as they remain out of melee and pepper their foes with arrows, they are kings.
Much the same goes for the mage and their magic.

Knights and warriors are kings in melee so of course if they close into melee, they will be better than the scout.

Like others have said, S/Wd are a good combo for a primary scout class character.

Quoted from "xMagus;545022"

All Scouts have their usefulness but the way this game is set up is just burning bosses and ignoring tactics so that being said S/Wd, S/W and S/R are 3 best in DPS, S/P and S/K for PvP. S/M has the ability to be good at pvp but only good S/M i ever knew was Rustystaff. S/D is just plain awful and i dont recommend playing it.

Well i must disagree with the bolded part. This game used to be set up for burns and such and ignoring tactics but in the later game instances like GCH TosH and SC one must utilize tactics over burns. The lower level instacnes like the 55-60 i'd say are a mix of burn and tactics. try burning the color boss in HoS with out using the tactics to make him vulnerable. I'd love to watch you try that one.

On another note all S/x have their usefullness just as all class combos have some type of usefulness. PVP wise i find that scout is the underplayed underestimated king. Last night in siege our oponents placed x2 S/K's on our Mid A tower and then they threw everyone else on the Mid B tower. Well it was quite a balanaced defense but we overpowered them with Sheer strength on mid A.

ATM S/wd is a monster in PVP and great dps in PVE. For a PVP scout i would suggest s/k s/wd or S/w or S/P. For a dps pve scout your best bet is a S/R and S/WD. For an offtank scout i'd go S/K.

Quoted from "Pantherbait;545128"

Well i must disagree with the bolded part. This game used to be set up for burns and such and ignoring tactics but in the later game instances like GCH TosH and SC one must utilize tactics over burns. The lower level instacnes like the 55-60 i'd say are a mix of burn and tactics. try burning the color boss in HoS with out using the tactics to make him vulnerable. I'd love to watch you try that one.

On another note all S/x have their usefullness just as all class combos have some type of usefulness. PVP wise i find that scout is the underplayed underestimated king. Last night in siege our oponents placed x2 S/K's on our Mid A tower and then they threw everyone else on the Mid B tower. Well it was quite a balanaced defense but we overpowered them with Sheer strength on mid A.

ATM S/wd is a monster in PVP and great dps in PVE. For a PVP scout i would suggest s/k s/wd or S/w or S/P. For a dps pve scout your best bet is a S/R and S/WD. For an offtank scout i'd go S/K.

You can disagree all you want there are very few bosses in which tactics are needed the majority of this game is burn

Quoted from "Pantherbait;545128"

Well i must disagree with the bolded part. This game used to be set up for burns and such and ignoring tactics but in the later game instances like GCH TosH and SC one must utilize tactics over burns. The lower level instacnes like the 55-60 i'd say are a mix of burn and tactics. try burning the color boss in HoS with out using the tactics to make him vulnerable. I'd love to watch you try that one.

On another note all S/x have their usefullness just as all class combos have some type of usefulness. PVP wise i find that scout is the underplayed underestimated king. Last night in siege our oponents placed x2 S/K's on our Mid A tower and then they threw everyone else on the Mid B tower. Well it was quite a balanaced defense but we overpowered them with Sheer strength on mid A.

ATM S/wd is a monster in PVP and great dps in PVE. For a PVP scout i would suggest s/k s/wd or S/w or S/P. For a dps pve scout your best bet is a S/R and S/WD. For an offtank scout i'd go S/K.

Ummm even tosh and gch, AND AC are now burn instances.. sorry friend. Ive been playing scout/rogue for a very long time.. and when tosh FIRST came out.. I was equal with the rogues for dps.. because the boss fights were long and difficult.. NOW that everybody got gear and new weapons.. its all burn now, no sustained long fights nemore sorry. EVEN 6th boss is now a 15 sec fight. and thats a very hard boss, or was. And color boss in HOS? you mean the boss that takes like three to five unbuffed hits to kill? Cmon you cant compare at all.

Anyways yes everyone is correct the best dps your gonna find is s/wd. S/r is def behind, but the fact you can lower a bosses defense by 31% between sapping arrow and exploiting shot, makes scout/rogue still very liked even if just for that.

I have since stopped using scout for pve, and went warden/scout, and tbh im not looking back

I still use s/k for siege, i will never not use anything but my s/k for siege. But after playing warden/scout for a while im starting to think wardens can be JUST as good in pvp as scouts are if played right. just my two cents.

You cannot burn ToSh.. it is not possible. First boss, all strat. Second boss, strat. Third boss, statue strat. Fourth boss, rocks are gonna fall however fast you burn it, strat. Fifth sixth and seventh i agree are mostly burnable. But up to fifth it's all strat.

GCH: Fourth, strat. Fifth, strat. You can't even GET to the boss without using strat. Seventh, Annelia is probably the most strat intensive fight in the game at the moment.

AC: I dare you to find a way to burn the lastboss in AC, or the green boss.

The instances these days are NOT all about burns.

lol with a good group first boss each 20 percent goes within like 5 seconds... sometimes less.. 2nd boss to 30% happens before you can blink an eye, with RS, gama, or any group theyre level the last 30% will go in a blink of an eye as well, third boss statues, ive done that boss to where he only did statues twice, thats it.. rock boss.. ive been in a party where they burned him straight to less than 20%... to where we got four back to back rounds of falling rocks to catch back up (killed a few people because of that) but he only had like 10 to 15% once rocks were done.. umm fifth boss is straight burn, and 7th boss.. 6th boss ive been in a party to where he didnt even throw his axe to anyone he got burned so fast...
you put the right party together.. and ud be amazed how fast you can blow thru tosh.
Well just have to show ya

Quoted from "FarmerTom;545497"

lol with a good group first boss each 20 percent goes within like 5 seconds... sometimes less.. 2nd boss to 30% happens before you can blink an eye, with RS, gama, or any group theyre level the last 30% will go in a blink of an eye as well, third boss statues, ive done that boss to where he only did statues twice, thats it.. rock boss.. ive been in a party where they burned him straight to less than 20%... to where we got four back to back rounds of falling rocks to catch back up (killed a few people because of that) but he only had like 10 to 15% once rocks were done.. umm fifth boss is straight burn, and 7th boss.. 6th boss ive been in a party to where he didnt even throw his axe to anyone he got burned so fast...
you put the right party together.. and ud be amazed how fast you can blow thru tosh.
Well just have to show ya

Your logic fails because even if the 20 percent or the percentages are going fast, you still have to do the strat. xD It's not a burn. You HAVE to do the strat, if you fail at the strat, you die. Sure he might not do the strat AS OFTEN, but you still have to do the strat.

yea but... just about every two rounds half of ur cds r up again and u can keep burning them, i can hit all cds twice or even three except the 5 min cd ones during that fight tho.. so ur burning over and over right? no?

but either way we are derailing here from topic..

Yes but you still have to do the strat. You're never going to get away with not doing the strat like you could in RT or KT.

I play S/K, 2 years ago... when I return... I find that s/k have it weakness... because
s/k is not good in dps... and k/s will cost to alot of $$ to stat the gears..

s/wd and s/r are cool... as they max the dps out..