Runes of Magic US / AU

I do this... and i have about 89k patk unbuffed, 13.7k dex unbuffed;

dex/patk hero
dex/patk glorious
dex/patk eternity
dex/patk bygone
stam/patk bygone
stam/patk eternity

Patk stacking is the best DPS route, but dex stacking is cheaper, but won't get the results patk stacking will

Quoted from "bleedingblak;545189"

dex/patk hero
dex/patk glorious
dex/patk eternity
dex/patk bygone
stam/patk bygone
stam/patk eternity

Unless you use VN strike set, go with the above method.

Quoted from "RealTelstarUS;545286"

Unless you use VN strike set, go with the above method.

Even with the vn strike set, I'd use this method.

Quoted from "bleedingblak;545348"

Even with the vn strike set, I'd use this method.

Yep, agreed

The dexterity multiplier does next to nothing really.
If you're going dext, the benefits would be a higher dodge rate which could be really useful in siege war.

For PvE, Phys Attack stacking is far superior to Dex stacking.

Quoted from "s9109569;560454"

For PvE, Phys Attack stacking is far superior to Dex stacking.

I dunno crap about rogues, but I'm standing next to a dex-stacking rogue who is probably the top dps toon on Palenque period and who could probably go toe to toe for dps against most of the rest of the servers. He also tanks stuff rogue's should get eaten alive by, like VN and GCH, and he can solo RT dia, no healer.

Dex stacking works just fine if you do whatever it is Walky does. Ask Odell. PA is definitely the preferred method, and may in fact may be marginally superior, but there's room for dex stacking. Come to Palenque, I am sure it would not be hard to get Walky to show off his DPS lol. He's a phenomenon.

what rune setup does he use

Doesn't really matter I guess. Point is he has high dex AND high pattk. 30k/130k is high for both. Getting that amount of both isn't easy and I wouldn't be surprised if someone said he has keenness/enlightenment runes of a very high rank. Citing that kind of build as a reasonable choice for others to follow isn't realistic.

You're also comparing different setups when you compare walky and odell.

T10 vs T11.
Standard runes on odell (I'm assuming rev/pot/agg/block) or whatever vs. Keen/enlightenment X (another assumption til someone can confirm).

If you compare same rune and dagger builds, same level of skill, and swap a couple of pattk stats for dex stats, pattk is the winner period.

Quoted from "TWMXC;560499"

Doesn't really matter I guess. Point is he has high dex AND high pattk. 30k/130k is high for both. Getting that amount of both isn't easy and I wouldn't be surprised if someone said he has keenness/enlightenment runes of a very high rank. Citing that kind of build as a reasonable choice for others to follow isn't realistic.

You're also comparing different setups when you compare walky and odell.

T10 vs T11.
Standard runes on odell (I'm assuming rev/pot/agg/block) or whatever vs. Keen/enlightenment X (another assumption til someone can confirm).

If you compare same rune and dagger builds, same level of skill, and swap a couple of pattk stats for dex stats, pattk is the winner period.

I don't know how he gets that high either, even with all the combinations I've tried, nothing comes close. If you can get to 130k patk (maybe with hot stew...?) and 30k dex, then by all means that's awesome. Just sounds like you're gonna have to dupe some runes first

Quoted from "bleedingblak;560558"

i don't know how he gets that high either, even with all the combinations i've tried, nothing comes close. If you can get to 130k patk (maybe with hot stew...?) and 30k dex, then by all means that's awesome. Just sounds like you're gonna have to dupe some runes first

i <3 bb!

Quoted from "bleedingblak;560558"

I don't know how he gets that high either, even with all the combinations I've tried, nothing comes close. If you can get to 130k patk (maybe with hot stew...?) and 30k dex, then by all means that's awesome. Just sounds like you're gonna have to dupe some runes first

How on earth does sacredmagic have enlightenment X runes?

I don't know

From when you could dupe runes i'm sure.

Full enlightenment X geared? Christmas came early for someone or maybe it was Hanukkah. Sounds more realistic doesn't it. Seven days of runes.....

Maybe its just a PPK thing, I was just super shocked see it.

Quoted from "mnkmurphy885;560463"

I dunno crap about rogues, but I'm standing next to a dex-stacking rogue who is probably the top dps toon on Palenque period and who could probably go toe to toe for dps against most of the rest of the servers. He also tanks stuff rogue's should get eaten alive by, like VN and GCH, and he can solo RT dia, no healer.

Dex stacking works just fine if you do whatever it is Walky does. Ask Odell. PA is definitely the preferred method, and may in fact may be marginally superior, but there's room for dex stacking. Come to Palenque, I am sure it would not be hard to get Walky to show off his DPS lol. He's a phenomenon.

I'm from the AU server so I can't really be bothered. However, to get those kind of stats your hp would be ridiculously low and you would need to have t8/t9 clean stat all your gear. And to get that kind of PA you'd have to stack 6x PA anyway. I am really doubting he has any non PA stats in his gear. So he really is PA stating and just sacrificing HP for Dex. However I can't say for sure since I haven't seen his gear.

So i took the best in slot gear for both dex stacking and patk stacking used several different accesorie sets and here is my findings.

Dex Stacking 4 dex/pa 2 Dex/Stams (for getting the most outta dex and still have sufficient patk) VN strike set

76k HP unbuffed
82k patk unbuffed
24k dex unbuffed

Dex Stacking (swapping 1 dex/stam for dex/hp less pdef though)
82k HP unbuffed

Patk Stacking: 3 dex/pa 3 Stam/pa as many people have suggested this was best for patk stacking rogues (with Mem crit set it was MORE patk then using VN strike and stack all patk stacks)

86k hp unbuffed
85k patk unbuffed
15k dex

This was using character plan on my level 72/72 Rogue/Scout

The difference in patk was only 3k however the difference in Dex was OVER 9000! (sorry just wanted to say that)

So these so called 100k patk unbuffed rogues dont exist ive tryed every gear patk combonation available and i just dont reach that high. i could see topping 90k tops giving up most of your hp but patk stacking isnt too far from dex stacking and i think with Hero Pot, Pet and Patk food the dex built just may even out.

(My findings were using the same stat combonation on every piece of gear however i did take out aggression X for Ferocity VII instead to make up for the lack of HP and i also know yes that is a patk loss however i didnt find it impactful as the same runes will be used on both builds)

So whatever you do chose whether its patk or dex stacking your not wrong just chose wisely and stick to one route.

Quoted from "s9109569;561155"

I'm from the AU server so I can't really be bothered. However, to get those kind of stats your hp would be ridiculously low and you would need to have t8/t9 clean stat all your gear. And to get that kind of PA you'd have to stack 6x PA anyway. I am really doubting he has any non PA stats in his gear. So he really is PA stating and just sacrificing HP for Dex. However I can't say for sure since I haven't seen his gear.

Ok first of all Walky's Hp is not low, he buffs to 150k hp with priest buff(with touch of the unicorn would be even more), hero pot and grassland mix. His gear is mostly tier 7. His DPS is really incredible. He is best rogue on a server and so many other rogues just copy his stating but they can't get even close to walky.