Runes of Magic US / AU

Quoted from "EsxCape;546437"

Gah don't say that. You'll jinx it. xD I actually don't want my class combo to be OP...having rogue at all is OP enough as it is. Runewaker could even balance it out a bit or else bring other classes up to par. I do rather like just being at the mid-range in terms of dps. I wouldn't like to be the lowest, but I definitely know that I don't want to be the highest. If my goal had been for high OP damage, I wouldn't have chosen r/wd in the first place. Viable is fine, OP is not.

I do feel like Runewaker might rethink the damage output on Throw and Combo Throw. If it turns out to be matched with Scout, it could be seen as an imbalance since Rogue (the class itself, with no secondary) is not a ranged class. But it's too soon to say.

I honestly dont see a reason to use throw or cthrow as a rogue still. As a r/s i will still use shot and vamp. As a r/wn i will only use throw if an enemy is escaping in pvp, it has no pve usage since i have plenty of other, stronger, spammable skills. No need for throw as a filler.

New Test (unbuffed):

Level 70ish mobs:

386k blind spot. ~372k Combo Throw (each individual knife is approx 186k). I have both skills at level 70 and I'm using level 63 projectiles.

Seems like the full skill combo throw is ALMOST as good as a blind spot which is a rogue's strongest skill. Hmmm...

Wonder what RUNEWHACKER was thinking anyway,rogues are fine and they gave them a new shiny toy that make them ranged attacker and broke the warden class .
But should be interesting to see rogues hide and use combo throw to take out players in siege.

Quoted from "regentego;546495"

So yes this makes shot/va look like a spit ball. So what this means is watch the heck out for r/k and r/wd. Now they will range kill you faster then a r/s, oh and their not easy to kill.

If that person is really PvP oriented, you're exactly right. But as you've already heard, it's still not appealing to every Rogue. Idk how other r/x combos feel about it... but I'm still saying if I wanted ranged I'd go with scout. And this coming from someone who was on a PvP server for most of my RoM experience. xD Hmmm...like maybe if I was still on a PvP server I'd be persuaded to level Throw. But have you seen r/wd skills? I already have a crap ton of TP in the variety of skills at my disposal. Even if I wanted to level Throw/Combo Throw I simply don't have enough TP to spare, not by far. @_@ I'm not really interested in gimping my entire skill rotation just to include 1-2 more attacks.

But for the other half who are going to level it, watch out. Actually 2x the watch out...because you might get blindsided by a nerf later on. xD I just see that this isn't going to go over well. Suppose the majority of rogues like the skill change; let me tell you how many non-rogues are going to ask for a nerf...and they'll probably be able to support their arguments well since rogues are already on the chopping block for OP FOTM. Forums are going to become Flame Wars of Magic. xD Hahaha

The combo throw works better on my r/s than my r/x class. Lol will max it and try out in siege. Should be interesting haha

Quoted from "EsxCape;546519"

[COLOR=black !important]Forums are going to become Flame Wars of Magic. xD Hahaha [/COLOR]

You mean that wasn't already the unofficial name of the forums?

Quoted from "regentego;546566"

Well I sieged as r/p, and throw works just fine, I placed the skills where I had shot/va so i didn't feel awkward. For the life of me though I don't understand why you wouldnt use this skillif you were a r/k r/wd ECT...

i might level them for use in siege war with my r/wn, they dont serve a purpose for r/wn in pve because r/wn has other skills that do more damage an server as better fillers.

Quoted from "Quaffy2;546579"

You mean that wasn't already the unofficial name of the forums?

Hard to say...some days I think it's Trolls of Magic. xD

If I were still on a PvP server, then yeah I would probably level it. The issues for my current characters are the following: 1) not enough TP...not even close. 2) if it gets nerfed, i'm out the TP since Frogster doesn't send out reset stones for single-skill changes. 3) i'm on a PvE server in a guild that never sieges (due to some complications that I won't get into), so I don't see any PvP these days. 4) I'm always fighting close-range, so any long-ranged attacks are going to be very rarely used.

I think if there are rogues who are actively engaging in PvP regularly (either siege or arenas or PvP servers) and who have the TP to spare, they should just go for it. The fact that a once useless skill is now viable is not a bad thing, so by all means take advantage of it. There is a chance the damage will be re-scaled in the future, who knows, but I think even if it is adjusted, it'll still be viable. If the damage was comparable to shadow stab instead of low blow, it would still be an improvement over what it was before.
Although I think R/S are still probably better off with (x)bow + arrows, since having a statted bow is better than an empty slot + projectiles...imho.

I will use for faces and eyes in siege. Stopping that flame from a mage that has frozen me. Hitting that player that is running away, or backing up, faster than I can get to them. Hitting people on mounts that are immune to my shadow prison (MOST ANNOYING THING EVER).

Quoted from "xMagus;546390"

My Combo throw hits harder then my Shot so i dont know about just all non-R/S benefiting from it.

Its pretty OP now

I know lol makes my bow seems so worthless now, its more like stat boosting lol

I used to be r/s in SW...now I'm r/k That range added is ridiculously good

Good fun in siege tonight, Silent Justice!

Man I love this skill, it's so great for r/w. If only it's range was 200 so I could get those pesky p/s!

Ok, so how much damage is the new and improved combo throw in siege?

Quoted from "CROMI80;547210"

Ok, so how much damage is the new and improved combo throw in siege?

40-90k against non p/k & k/*'s