Runes of Magic US / AU

I have been K/r since the 3rd class was added was K/p before that. The big issue is no weapon Mastery so you have to do all your damage off the skill % and weapon tier/damage. I'm not sure if an Off-hand weapon with no shield is the way to go or not. You can't even use a dagger in the off-hand...why I have no idea....so you get no Bleeds. You can get your Crit rate really up there even with the Plate items from the shell vendors. I have tinkered with this to an extent and I crit very often and that helps you hit harder. I have found that you need some dex to help with Accuracy so you don't miss so often and the side effect is higher dodge and that helps too.

I imaging you might be able to find a balance between Leather/Chain/Plate items to give you the crit/Accuracy/Patk and maybe some Pdef as a side effect. I personally don't have the Gold/ Dias and or Time to test my theory. Not to mention I quit buying Diamonds after The Mighty Shield patch so I really don't play much any more. I'm just waiting for a game to launch and RoM is going to be another part of my gaming history.

If I recall they did something with the Dex awhile back because Dex was Trumping Pdef and basically you got hit every time because Rogues/Scouts stacked it like mad. I had/have more dex than most knights were stacking and it seemed to work for me to an extent. I have no idea if that's true in siege any more because i gave up on it due to frustration with the whole it's Beta and you just have to deal with the issues Mantra. I was around 75k Hp and really needed to run harder on the gear tredmill but I quit supporting the game with money and have no where near the time it takes to be F2P.

I was/am geared for PvE and couldn't afford a second set of PvP gear so I never got to try out the Leather/Chain/Plate mix theory. The game just got to costly to invest in test gear and I have to admit I just don't have the intrest in RoM that I did. The "Final Balance" for knights never came after the Mighty Shield so I kinda gave up. I'm having fun tinkering with a Champion/r in the little time I spend in RoM I think you might want to look in that direction for a PvP Tank type toon. The Champ seems to have all the things Knights begged for. A weapon Mastery/Better DPS/Good Pdef and you can basically spam Shadow stab until you get some rage for the dwarf skills .......but most quest/world mobs seem to drop before you can even use them. I've only done a couple dirty statted (twinked) chain items and some Twinked leather items on it and it's kinda OP for the level (30/30). I'm 2 and 3 hitting world mobs that are 10 levels above me. I have a Chain Chest and Legs with Leather Belt, Shoulders and Boots, along with two 1h hammers. It's fun to say the least but I have no idea what the toon can/will do in later levels or when they might Nerf Bat the class. I assume you could go with a Dagger in the off hand but I'm rolling with a Hammer.

Just wondering, how much has this patch changed the K/P (and K/M if any of you are listening)?

You'll have to wait on the results from people who actively play K/M to know for sure, but when I fiddled around with it this was my take. The main change they could have made was to change most of those less than useful skills from magical to physical damage. However, they left them as magic based. They did a bunch of stuff to the elites to add more magical damage which sounds good, but I just don't think anyone is ever going to stat enough MAtk on a K/M for it to matter. The buff to stamina should be a nice but fairly small change.

K/P. Holy Fury does 0 damage. It adds a debuff that says it is going to do damage, but no actual damage is done. The skill it is replacing didn't really do much damage either though, so it's not that much of a nerf I guess. I don't think that the party wide heal is going to be a particularly big deal. It seems pretty small.

Pretty underwhelming changes overall.

Without the weapon mastery for K/R to work the bonus damage from crits needs to equal/surpass the bonus damage you got from K/W's 2-handed axe mastery. Given you will take about a 50% hit in damage from the loss of weapon mastery, your crits need to do double damage or more to make your K/R as viable as your K/W is in siege. Also, your K/W likely critted at some rate, so to really have the K/R be useful you'll need your crit damage on the K/R surpass the normal damage your K/W did. The more often your K/R crits over your K/W the less damage your crit damage will have to be over your K/W damage.

Quoted from "impsbro;547685"

Without the weapon mastery for K/R to work the bonus damage from crits needs to equal/surpass the bonus damage you got from K/W's 2-handed axe mastery. Given you will take about a 50% hit in damage from the loss of weapon mastery, your crits need to do double damage or more to make your K/R as viable as your K/W is in siege. Also, your K/W likely critted at some rate, so to really have the K/R be useful you'll need your crit damage on the K/R surpass the normal damage your K/W did. The more often your K/R crits over your K/W the less damage your crit damage will have to be over your K/W damage.

Yes....K/r is pretty much all about Crit.....if you plan to do any damage. I was working on the shell gear with the Crit bonuses and adding anything that would give crit in some way. The Piacha set was my goal at one point and I had figured a Crit knight might actually work. I don't think you can pull this off in the 30K HP range tho.

Well if your K/r works out drop me a PM and let me know how you did the gear......I'm very curious how this works out. Glad there is someone still willing to play knight.

Quoted from "squirrlee;559678"

Well if your K/r works out drop me a PM and let me know how you did the gear......I'm very curious how this works out. Glad there is someone still willing to play knight.

I'm curious, are you using throw on your k/r, given its based on mainhand DPS it must do some major damage with a 2 hander.

Quoted from "regentego;559691"

I'm curious, are you using throw on your k/r, given its based on mainhand DPS it must do some major damage with a 2 hander.

If the skill is blah blah does XXX% Main hand weapon DPS, then it would be stronger as a R/x or W/R, and weaker as a K/R with a 2-hander. Skills are multiplied by the DPS number on your weapon, and Daggers have the highest DPS. Also K/R doesn't have a weapon mastery so the DPS is much lower than a rogue's

My K/S has about 23.5k stam, 37.5k PA, Im all Plate, 68% Parry*, only like 28% Crit, but Im not going for crit at all.

My Bow is Jenny's Anger at T8, so I have no problem killing kiters or range attackers (K/S has Vamp, and two 1 sec CD instant shots basically), when a melee comes up to me, they got to deal with all my Parry and Pdef, which almost all wont outlast me. The only issue I have is with Mages or W/M who can one shot me, Im talking about mages who buff past 100k MA, T10-T11 Shackles, root and blast lol. If it lasts more than 2 seconds, im good (63% Mag Dmg mitigation for 30 sec), 90-99% of the time, I win 1v1, but in SW, its not always 1v1 lol.

Quoted from "regentego;559691"

I'm curious, are you using throw on your k/r, given its based on mainhand DPS it must do some major damage with a 2 hander.

Nope.....Haven't even been playing my knight since the new chapter. Also I was a Sword + Shield before that, not to mention if I wanted to roll with a 2h I might as well be a K/w or W/x or even Wdn/x if I were going with 2h swords for real damage. I've been playing around with the Champ/r but nothing serious since I don't play much anymore.

I don't think Throw is going to help K/r much other than pulling.