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HadMatter

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Thursday, September 6th 2012, 7:40pm

Scouts and Patk

Still curious to know why scouts are only getting 1:1 patt from dex and str? I can understand given the old school mechanics since they relied on dex mods for damage rather than straight patt. Since they have done everything they can to prevent scouts from actually matching the outright burn dps of other classes I still don't understand why they have to work that much harder for patt. For a rogue they get 1.3 per patt and 1.2 for str? Still curious to know why this was never reworked. Maybe I just don't understand the mechanics correctly, but I can't figure out what advantage that would give a scout.
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Thursday, September 6th 2012, 7:43pm

Scout's get more P.Att per Dex than all rogue combos except R/S. It's just that 95% of current rogues are R/S though lol. A better Weapon Mastery or an increase in %DPS of Scout skills would benefit you guys more.
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Friday, September 7th 2012, 2:16am

Quoted from "mikkehboii;568524"

Scout's get more P.Att per Dex than all rogue combos except R/S. It's just that 95% of current rogues are R/S though lol. A better Weapon Mastery or an increase in %DPS of Scout skills would benefit you guys more.


ah...good point. Dex passive. And yes they need to rework the class some, but it wont happen. Not enough people care at this point...all the scouts went back to playing rogue like they were prior to scouts of magic. I imagine Frogster/Runewaker were glad enough to stifle all the incessant whining from mages.
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Friday, September 7th 2012, 2:22am

the dex passive is like 8% max...so yeah...1.08 PA per dex, thats really up there with 1.3 rogues have...
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Friday, September 7th 2012, 5:01am

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the dex passive is like 8% max...so yeah...1.08 PA per dex, thats really up there with 1.3 rogues have...


Hmm.. I could have sworn I did the math before and found it to be higher... O wells.. time for me to stop posting on these forums anyways...
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Friday, September 7th 2012, 5:26am

What do rogues get then if they get 1.3pa per dex... with swiftness plussed the same.


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Friday, September 7th 2012, 5:30am

Multiply with Hero Potion and Swiftness, 20% then 7.5%, add them up and multiply by 1.3.
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Friday, September 7th 2012, 7:25am

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For a rogue they get 1.3 per patt and 1.2 for str?


Well there's the problem right there. A rogue stacks 1 patk and gets 1.3 patk in return. Keep looping that and rogues end up with infinite patk, tough to compete with that if you ask me.
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Monday, September 10th 2012, 11:10pm

We are being punished, and not all of us switched to rogue. I probably would, but I know as soon as I do, they'll fix scouts and I'll have to change back, since scout is my one true love.

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Tuesday, September 11th 2012, 5:49am

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Multiply with Hero Potion and Swiftness, 20% then 7.5%, add them up and multiply by 1.3.

Thanks. I'm half retarded.


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Tuesday, September 11th 2012, 2:28pm

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Multiply with Hero Potion and Swiftness, 20% then 7.5%, add them up and multiply by 1.3.


That doesn't look right.

You do know that Rogues can use Hero Potions too right? o.O

Rogues get more PA per point of Dex.

I think only ScoutWarriors can get the most PA.

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Tuesday, September 11th 2012, 2:31pm

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That doesn't look right.

You do know that Rogues can use Hero Potions too right? o.O

Rogues get more PA per point of Dex.

I think only ScoutWarriors can get the most PA.


Ya, that was for BleedingBlak he was asking how much P.Att a R/S gets lol. And yea, I admitted I was wrong. Could have sworn I calculated it before in the past and found Scout's to get more but I was wrong and probably high lol
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