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Sunday, October 14th 2012, 5:42am

Can anybody give me a good bonus stat balance?

This is so I can make a plan on which set/gears should I be getting to achieve a good balance, any ifno is welcome
What % crit rate should I be aiming to have?
What physical attack should I aim to have?
What is a good accurraci?
Is Paicha set still decent to have?

Thanks in advance.

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Sunday, October 14th 2012, 6:19am

Start with 4 str/pa and 2 stam/pa and adjust accordingly.

Instead of focusing on what physical attack you should have (since it takes a long time to get to end game) just figure out a model you would like to follow as you move forward.

Crit is most important (after damage) because of endgame crit resistance and level differential which reduces crit rate. Try to GEAR for crit as much as you can and STAT for strength and physical attack. There will be exceptions always but you'll be fine follow that guideline, as you learn more about warrior and talk to people along the way you'll tweak things here and there. Aim for at least 4k crit minimum. If you're not hitting that when ur geared up running end game, you need to fix that.

Don't worry about accuracy, ask druids to give you accuracy buff if it's really an issue, but it shouldn't be.

Paicha set is old now if you are able to get the set from proof of legends off level 75 world bosses, if you can't, paicha is fine.

Gear:
Kulech precision set (neck, earrings, ring)
Trap ring
Proofs chest (Wish of the Dead) (or GCH, ToSH, Kulech hard chest)
GCH, ToSH, or Kulech hard helmet and boots
Proofs set (Triumph song Leg guards, road of blood belt, confrontation battlefront shoulder armor) (or Paicha and GCH, ToSH, Kulech hard shoulders)
VN Aoth Strike cape for crit + pa
VN ragecape in inventory and macroed
Leather gloves of vigilance from AC easy

*Edit: Caveat...I'm not a warrior, nor have I ever been, but I tend to keep up on all class combos. Doublecheck with someone like greendeath or scootermtb or whathaveyous

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Sunday, October 14th 2012, 8:06am

Quoted from "kynamdoan;573916"

Start with 4 str/pa and 2 stam/pa and adjust accordingly.

Instead of focusing on what physical attack you should have (since it takes a long time to get to end game) just figure out a model you would like to follow as you move forward.

Crit is most important (after damage) because of endgame crit resistance and level differential which reduces crit rate. Try to GEAR for crit as much as you can and STAT for strength and physical attack. There will be exceptions always but you'll be fine follow that guideline, as you learn more about warrior and talk to people along the way you'll tweak things here and there. Aim for at least 4k crit minimum. If you're not hitting that when ur geared up running end game, you need to fix that.

Don't worry about accuracy, ask druids to give you accuracy buff if it's really an issue, but it shouldn't be.

Paicha set is old now if you are able to get the set from proof of legends off level 75 world bosses, if you can't, paicha is fine.

Gear:
Kulech precision set (neck, earrings, ring)
Trap ring
Proofs chest (Wish of the Dead) (or GCH, ToSH, Kulech hard chest)
GCH, ToSH, or Kulech hard helmet and boots
Proofs set (Triumph song Leg guards, road of blood belt, confrontation battlefront shoulder armor) (or Paicha and GCH, ToSH, Kulech hard shoulders)
VN Aoth Strike cape for crit + pa
VN ragecape in inventory and macroed
Leather gloves of vigilance from AC easy

*Edit: Caveat...I'm not a warrior, nor have I ever been, but I tend to keep up on all class combos. Doublecheck with someone like greendeath or scootermtb or whathaveyous


Thank you for your quick and informative answer. However I am not finding any information from "Proof's set" for the belt, leg guards.. can you tell me where to aquire them?

Also talking in a gear grind wise.. allowing me to run for my stuff should I start with shell/memento gear ? (I don't like to get carried along instances :P, I want to earn my gears) so there will be a need of a gear grind.
Any recomendations?

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Sunday, October 14th 2012, 8:09am

Quoted from "Hailm3;573923"

Thank you for your quick and informative answer. However I am not finding any information from "Proof's set" for the belt, leg guards.. can you tell me where to aquire them?

Also talking in a gear grind wise.. allowing me to run for my stuff should I start with shell/memento gear ? (I don't like to get carried along instances :P, I want to earn my gears) so there will be a need of a gear grind.
Any recomendations?


Proof of Legends come from killing level 75 world bosses, so that's beyond your capabilities right now. Use shell gear but always be careful to check to ensure you're using pieces with crit. Chest pieces you always want damage, but 3 are from hardmode instances and worldbosses which is dependent on server/guild you're in. So if you can't get your hands on those, use shell pieces and focus on crit.

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Sunday, October 14th 2012, 8:40pm

What is your class combo? W/R/K? W/Wdn/S? W/Wdn/R? If you are W/Wdn/X I'd stat Str/P.Att x 4, Str/Hp x 2. If you are W/R/K, I'd stat Str/P.Att x 4, Stam/P.Att x 2. Str/Stam's and Str/Hp's give more P.Att for Warriors than Stam/P.Att does. But if you have a W/K side, the Stam is nice for SW. If you are W/Wdn/S, swap to Wdn/x for SW. Don't need much Stam or Def and you will be beasty. Use Shell/Mem gear/accessories for now.
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Monday, October 15th 2012, 3:41am

Quoted from "kynamdoan;573924"

Proof of Legends come from killing level 75 world bosses, so that's beyond your capabilities right now. Use shell gear but always be careful to check to ensure you're using pieces with crit. Chest pieces you always want damage, but 3 are from hardmode instances and worldbosses which is dependent on server/guild you're in. So if you can't get your hands on those, use shell pieces and focus on crit.


Thanks for your answer and info bro :)

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Monday, October 15th 2012, 3:59am

Quoted from "mikkehboii;573951"

What is your class combo? W/R/K? W/Wdn/S? W/Wdn/R? If you are W/Wdn/X I'd stat Str/P.Att x 4, Str/Hp x 2. If you are W/R/K, I'd stat Str/P.Att x 4, Stam/P.Att x 2. Str/Stam's and Str/Hp's give more P.Att for Warriors than Stam/P.Att does. But if you have a W/K side, the Stam is nice for SW. If you are W/Wdn/S, swap to Wdn/x for SW. Don't need much Stam or Def and you will be beasty. Use Shell/Mem gear/accessories for now.


I am W/R

thank you for your answer aswel :)

Would stats like Strength give more or less physical attack than raw physical attack stat?

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Monday, October 15th 2012, 4:39am

unless you find "physical attack/physical attack" go for Str/patt

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Monday, October 15th 2012, 6:16am

Quoted from "Hailm3;573981"

I am W/R

thank you for your answer aswel :)

Would stats like Strength give more or less physical attack than raw physical attack stat?


Str gives more P.Att than raw P.Att.
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Monday, October 15th 2012, 8:41am

Quoted from "mikkehboii;573989"

Str gives more P.Att than raw P.Att.


what bonuses do warriors get to str?

natural 2x str pa bonus
innate 6%? <- unsure about this
hero potion 20%

That gives more PA than statting raw pa already.

Then there's aoth 8% bump

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Monday, October 15th 2012, 7:53pm

Quoted from "kynamdoan;573994"

what bonuses do warriors get to str?

natural 2x str pa bonus
innate 6%? <- unsure about this
hero potion 20%

That gives more PA than statting raw pa already.

Then there's aoth 8% bump


The Str passive, same as Swiftness for Scout but with Strength of course instead of Dex. Hero Pot, Composure (GCH Set skill) +3% Str -3% Aggro, Aoth 8% if attainable. Aoth is better for Warrior than the vendor accessories, but of course, vendor is easier to obtain. And yea 2 P.Att per Strength.
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Monday, October 15th 2012, 10:47pm

Can't comment on the original stat mix question, but a few words about the STR vs. Patk topic...

A standard top stat currently is 135 STR or 337 Patk. On a warrior, 135 STR = 270 Patk base.

Notice that initially, advantage goes to Patk. But we have to start adding the % STR bonuses. These apply to STR, but not raw Patk.

Brute Strength +75: 8.2%. 270 * 1.082 = 292.14
Hero Potion: 20%. 292.14 * 1.2 = 350.568
Here we see that just hero potion and maxing your passive skill makes STR surpass Patk. But what if no Hero Potion?

Brute Strength +75: 8.2%. 270 * 1.082 = 292.14
Aoth set bonus: 8%. 292.14 * 1.08 = 315.5112
Warlock Sublimation Weave Curse: 6% (uncertain on this one, but it's probably right). 315.5112 * 1.06 = 334.441872
Skill flower 20 min click effect: 3%. This would put STR over the top again.


Conclusion: STR beats Patk when you use Hero Potion. STR can beat Patk if you stack enough other % stat increase buffs, but for me that never happens. If anyone has more % str buffs to add beyond those I listed above, that would be interesting.

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Tuesday, October 16th 2012, 2:52am

If you're running something that matters, you'll be using Hero Potion. If you are running something without Hero Potion, you already have enough P.Att for it so debating raw P.Att vs Strength for it is pointless.
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Wednesday, October 17th 2012, 2:43am

Quoted from "RhazeCain;574053"

Can't comment on the original stat mix question, but a few words about the STR vs. Patk topic...

A standard top stat currently is 135 STR or 337 Patk. On a warrior, 135 STR = 270 Patk base.

Notice that initially, advantage goes to Patk. But we have to start adding the % STR bonuses. These apply to STR, but not raw Patk.

Brute Strength +75: 8.2%. 270 * 1.082 = 292.14
Hero Potion: 20%. 292.14 * 1.2 = 350.568
Here we see that just hero potion and maxing your passive skill makes STR surpass Patk. But what if no Hero Potion?

Brute Strength +75: 8.2%. 270 * 1.082 = 292.14
Aoth set bonus: 8%. 292.14 * 1.08 = 315.5112
Warlock Sublimation Weave Curse: 6% (uncertain on this one, but it's probably right). 315.5112 * 1.06 = 334.441872
Skill flower 20 min click effect: 3%. This would put STR over the top again.


Conclusion: STR beats Patk when you use Hero Potion. STR can beat Patk if you stack enough other % stat increase buffs, but for me that never happens. If anyone has more % str buffs to add beyond those I listed above, that would be interesting.


Nice answer

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Saturday, October 27th 2012, 9:40pm

4 str / patt + 2 str / hp f you dont care about pdef and you are not w/k which with hero would benefit more from stam then HP.
Also if u feel that you want a higher HP pool using only 3 str / patt and the rest str / hp is a viable option. I tried many combination and using stam/patt is a bad choise (if def bonus is not taken into consideration). For w/k best str / patt and str / stam should be ideal. I'll put the excel spreadsheet on googledrive these days so that you can see all stat combination of str/patt , str/hp and stam/patt. I didn't include str/stam because is rare (kuleck HM only i think). The analysis takes into consideration Brute str 8%, Str2HP 0.2 and Hero pot effect.

LINK

Hope i didn't make errors.

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Saturday, October 27th 2012, 10:47pm

Paicha set is outdated, but is fine for a hold over if you get it cheap.

I stat 3 str/patk 1 str/stam 1 str/hp and 1 stam/patk on most pieces of gear. Last three can be mixed and matched, more sta/pa or str/hp. Can't double up on high end str/stam as its a raid stat only. Depending on how our guild raids go in the coming days i'll hopfully be statting with 4 str/patk 1 sta/str and 1 sta/patk or str/hp.

For the str vs patk depate, it depends on a lot of factors. Personally I like haven't the raw patk to have more patk without a hero, and adding the defense in there. Kulech bones nest mobs hit hard, little more def helps the healers keep you up. With brute strength and hero pot, you get about the same amount of patk from the raw patk as str, but not enough to make a significant difference early on. And if you try to stat "perfectly" early on, you are going to be missing something. Early focus should be on survivability. Getting your hp up to survive more.

Aoth set isn't something you should count on. VN can't be "farmed" and the rings from the set comes from a quest that takes a conciderable amount of time and resources to complete(also gotta die by the fear from boss 50 times) Also, it takes a considerable amount of strength stacking to gain patk over the kulech set(little over 4k patk over raw values of aoth set) so thats a better bet. Its quite easy to get if you don't mind ud gear, high dura will take either a lot of gold or time farming mems(10 rings so far for me, non over 85 dura, done wasting energy on it)


For gear

Hardmode set of armor, 4 peicesl; helm, chest, shoulders, boots.Grafu castle, Tomb of the seven heros, Kulech Bones nest. Of these three, You're really only going to be able to complete the tosh set. Why? Because Annelia doesn't get done often, its a very difficult and unforgiving encounter. Tosh gear is plentiful, KBN was only recently cleared(last night on artimis), and likely won't see much of that gear on the market for a while, and even then, not going to be very cheap. It's not significantly better that tosh gear, so dont try to shoot for the moon here, you'll be dissapointed, broke and likely useless because you can't afford anything else. Once you get your Proof of legend legs and belt you can swap out the shoulders in this set for the proof shoulders gaining some crit and damage.

Gloves - AC easy, leather Gloves of vigilance, have fun farming these, may take a while, but worth it.

Belt - Have some options here, can use paicha sacrificing hp and patk for a little crit. I suggest getting a Tinc belt from AC normal, really, anything with patk will do. Leather or Chain. There is even some serviceable OD! chain/leather belts from quests in Crystalia. They have a bit less patk and hp than the Tinc, but not by enough to cry over, making it a perfect hold over til you can go big(Proof gear). Aformentioned Proof of Legend/world boss gear is the untimate goal, but don't count on it unless you get into a power guild on your server, or have a lot of money. Low dura peices on arti are going for 75mil.

Legs - Like gloves, you can use paicha, but there isnt really any advantage to it other than it possibly being cheap, however it is the least attainable peice of this set, coming out of platinum RT. Other options are Heurtons Leg guards or Kulech Black Magic chain pants or whatever they're called, same stats as Heurtions legs, maybe bit more def. They do come from codex tho, so crappy stat, and durability headaches abound. As with the belt there is serviceable chain legs from Crysalia quests, only a little bit less than the heurtons on stats, but guaranteed OD and free. Proof of legend legs being ultimate goal(and first in the progression of the set ideally)

Cape - Aoth strike while nice, is one of those things you just aren't going to come across any day, if you do find one for sale, its gonna cost a pretty penny. Other great capes are codex capes, Black Magic moniker, Dex and Patk, dex gives you accuracy and dodge, nothing to complain about and patk is great. These are codex capes so can take some time, or if you are lucky you might find a seller, most likely a used 70 cape. Easiest option for cape is Codex, readily available using your shells or purchase.

Jewely has been touched on. Codex is easest to get. but thats only 3 pieces. For your other ring and earring you have a lot of options. For ring, ideally Trap ring, hard to beat crit and patk, Reflection of the blue sky or even a second codex ring can also be used gaining stam and accuracy in place of the crit, trap ring isn't easy to get, so you may need to get a hold over anyway. Also have the tried and true Dilany ring for a big boos to crit without the patk, but keep in mind you want as much patk as you can get while balancing your crit and hp.def along with it. For second earring, another Kulech codex earring is ideal, but can be a waiting game for OD, can also use a Tinc earring or even a Lekani earring early on for the crit and patk, but that will definitely need replacing, miss out on quite a bit of crit/patk/hp with the 60 jewelry.

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Friday, November 16th 2012, 4:08pm

My stating suggestion would be the following. Most of my gear follows the first pattern, 5 pieces follow the second.

Str/Stam
Str/pattack x3
Stam/pattack x2

Str/pattack x4
Stam/pattack x2
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Thursday, January 24th 2013, 9:33pm

wait, aoth is better than the current vendor stuff? how so, sorry for semi necro, also stam phys is a no no

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Thursday, January 24th 2013, 10:20pm

Quoted from "1stfaze;586153"

wait, aoth is better than the current vendor stuff? how so, sorry for semi necro, also stam phys is a no no


Comparing after attribute buffs, Vendor set has ~2,500 more P.Att, ~540 more crit and ~340 less P.dmg. Aoth wins in my eyes because 2,500 P.Att is nothing to a Warrior, especially W/Wdn, which is what I am. 540 more crit also means nothing to me because you will have well over 70% crit with Aoth set, and increase to crit at this point won't do much for you. It's either you're lucky and crit, or you don't crit. So the 340 P.Dmg does it for me. Majority of CD's are increase to Damage and Attack Speed. The more P.Dmg you have, the more effective the CD's are for you.
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Thursday, January 24th 2013, 10:50pm

looks like im farming a set, valliance or forrest?