When did wdn/m elite skill Wind Chop change

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Wednesday, November 14th 2012, 4:12pm

Does anyone know when Wind Chop went from a 1 to a 3 sec cool down skill? An already weak elite skill (only 2/3 the damage of Charged Chop), has been made 1/3 as effective over the a 3 sec time period. It now does less damage then PotWS over the same 3 sec time frame. Accept for the lvl 60 elite (which is tied to this elite skill), it was the wdn/m only non-pet related elite skill. Going to stop here before I start ranting.

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Galenwaithien

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Wednesday, November 14th 2012, 5:29pm

Just a note... Dont compare windchop to potws because the latter shares cd with cc and neither trigger gcd. So you'll never find yourself in the position of choosing potws vs wind chop or viceversa.

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Wednesday, November 14th 2012, 8:36pm

Note: not my 1st rodeo..., what use to be a a 1 sec cool down (now a 3 sec) skill can be compared to 1 sec cool down for damage done over the same period so your note does not apply. My question still remains when was it changed?

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Wednesday, November 14th 2012, 11:39pm

what i am trying to say is... you'll never have to compare potws to wind chop, because in 1 gcd, you can cast potws+wind chop.

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SaynoMor

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Thursday, November 15th 2012, 12:27am

The original question still remains unanswered 'when Wind Chop went from a 1 to a 3 sec cool down?' Your 'just a note' and 'what i am trying say' are not answering that question. And as original stated it does do less damage then PotWS, over a 3 sec time frame, you can use PotWS 3 times in 3 seconds, over a similar 3 sec time frame you can use Wind Chop once where as before you could use it 3 times therefore it does less damage now as original stated.

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Feanwyn

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Thursday, November 15th 2012, 4:36am

Go back through the patch notes and see if it says anything about it, if not then it's an undocumented change and should then be posted in the undocumented change posts. What Galen is saying is that yes, it does less damage, but you can cast both at the same time anyways, and for single target you should be using charged chop anyways. While wind chop may have been nerfed, cc got a huge boost a while back, so your dps will be up still from the patch before the warden change. As a side note, the ROMwiki does not list a cooldown for wind chop, though I suppose that's not saying a whole lot as the 60 elites were being added by me and I have no affiliation with the site at all.

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Thursday, November 15th 2012, 5:37am

And yet again the original question goes unanswered, 'Does anyone know when Wind Chop went from a 1 to a 3 sec cool down skill?'

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Thursday, November 15th 2012, 6:05am

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Go back through the patch notes and see if it says anything about it, if not then it's an undocumented change and should then be posted in the undocumented change posts.

Start with 5.01 and work your way to the patch notes of the most recent. It is likely there was no mention of it because there have been a lot of changes that have gone undocumented. You just have to do a little searching and if you don't find it then no one knows..

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Feanwyn

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Thursday, November 15th 2012, 6:46am

I answered your question, I said look through the patch notes, if nobody has an exact answer go find it yourself. I mean does it really matter when it was changed? If it's changed now chances are it's not gonna get changed back.

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Galenwaithien

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Thursday, November 15th 2012, 12:06pm

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I answered your question, I said look through the patch notes, if nobody has an exact answer go find it yourself. I mean does it really matter when it was changed? If it's changed now chances are it's not gonna get changed back.

I give up. I told him it was just a note -> don't get too focused on wind chop cd as overall wd/m dps got a boost - but I fear he doesn't understand gcd.

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SaynoMor

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Thursday, November 15th 2012, 4:55pm

And yet again you both never answered the question, 'Does anyone know when Wind Chop went from a 1 to a 3 sec cool down skill?'. Been playing this class combo since elf's were introduced back in chapter 2, I know how the cd's work, which skills to use in what combo, which are more effective to spam. Neither of you answered the question, you got hung up on an example, my fault for including it. A ticket was submitted, my post here was in the hopes that some other wdn/m noted when this change happened.

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Galenwaithien

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Thursday, November 15th 2012, 7:52pm

It's not that we hung up on an example on purpose. You phrased it in such a way that people could understand you didn't know cc and potws do not trigger gcd. Hence I thought I'd clarify a bit.
It's more about the fact you answered very aggressively. On purpose I said "just a note", as I do not know when the cd was changed.

The other guy (f something I'm from phone don't know how to multi quote)
didnt know either. So he provided a couple of suggestions. Either go through patch notes and check, or go through undocumented changes.
You didn't thank for his attempt at helping. You kept ranting. That's why I said I give up.

Probably it's due to my lack of proficiency with English, but you got some "help" and thought we were simply trolling.

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Friday, November 16th 2012, 2:04am

My Wind Chop is unchanged, still only GCD. Maybe the 3 sec change is from 60 elite skill (which I can't get, since I'm at work when bosses are killed).

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Galenwaithien

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Friday, November 16th 2012, 2:14am

Another r/k disarmament like nerf

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SaynoMor

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Friday, November 16th 2012, 8:13am

TY Purre and you might be right on the nerf Galenwaithien. Waiting for support to get back to me, will let you know the outcome. Might be prudent for other wdn/m to hold off getting their lvl 60 elite till we know.

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Tuesday, January 8th 2013, 11:24pm

http://forum.us.runesofmagic.com/showthread.php?t=73064

Was when the warden skill changes were done. Note that there is no mention of Wind Chop but would anyone be surprised if they forgot to mention it?

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Thursday, January 10th 2013, 6:38am

http://rom.onlinewelten.com/news,id5289,…ills.html?sec=1

This indicates a change to the wd/m wind chop with the level 60 elite. This is not the only level 60 elite that "breaks" another as the s/wd 60 elite made the level 15 elite Thorn Arrow not work. I recommend submitting a ticket asking for it to be changed back to the 1 sec and give a supporting arguement for that. It may not work as the change may be intended, similar to the r/k nerf galen pointed out.

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When did wdn/m elite skill Wind Chop change

When did wdn/m elite skill Wind Chop change

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