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Saturday, February 16th 2013, 8:01pm

my friend your only lvl 67 which tells me you retired, or MIA :D. neways imo (which is just an opinion) k/p holds better aggro against w/m than k/s. A k/s with a extra hatred X that does no damage is crap compared to LOWERING a w/m aggro 25%, plus you got holy arua(however its spelled rofl), stuff like that, or hve priest as your third class swap to k/p for debuff, then switch back k/s for runs idk lol.
But in our guild we have atleast 4 w/m that have 100k ma unbuffed. And they all have wand/tali to help but wed all prefer that the dps is doin EVERYTHING they can in a fight. DPS shouldnt have to hold back at all. TBH i think knights need to change with the times... Days of negative aggro are long gone. Stack some PA, i think knights nowadays should have atleast 60k pa buffed. ATLEAST. Yes your gonna have to sacrifice defense, but you guys dont need over 800k pdef rofl.
I tank as wd/s with 675k pdef and ive done up to 6th kbnh multiple times :P (least im honest)

But i also tank with 93k pa too, and ill double any w/m all day. Why... PA..................

IDK im "under the influence" and rambling now :P c ya
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Saturday, February 16th 2013, 8:02pm

ROFL i started out with the lvl 67 guy and never finished hahahah. neways my POINT was i dont think youve run with todays w/m's friend. new ball game now. :D
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Saturday, February 16th 2013, 8:32pm

Quoted from "FarmerTom;589304"

my friend your only lvl 67 which tells me you retired, or MIA :D. neways imo (which is just an opinion) k/p holds better aggro against w/m than k/s. A k/s with a extra hatred X that does no damage is crap compared to LOWERING a w/m aggro 25%, plus you got holy arua(however its spelled rofl), stuff like that, or hve priest as your third class swap to k/p for debuff, then switch back k/s for runs idk lol.
But in our guild we have atleast 4 w/m that have 100k ma unbuffed. And they all have wand/tali to help but wed all prefer that the dps is doin EVERYTHING they can in a fight. DPS shouldnt have to hold back at all. TBH i think knights need to change with the times... Days of negative aggro are long gone. Stack some PA, i think knights nowadays should have atleast 60k pa buffed. ATLEAST. Yes your gonna have to sacrifice defense, but you guys dont need over 800k pdef rofl.
I tank as wd/s with 675k pdef and ive done up to 6th kbnh multiple times :P (least im honest)

But i also tank with 93k pa too, and ill double any w/m all day. Why... PA..................

IDK im "under the influence" and rambling now :P c ya

Somthing you must understand about knights, no weapon mastery which results in a lot of damage loss which dirrectly means less agro generation. I play a PVP knight/p build which is considerably more phy att than normal, but even then agro generation is still an issue from time to time. Knights need a major overhual. Its pretty bad when we have had almost no change since chapter 2. Ok we recieved a 10-15% increase in deff.

Point is, instead of getting all up set about your tanks inability to hold agro, complain to gameforge to ride RW harder about class balence. Knights needed an over hual in chapter 2. Really needed one in chapter 3. And chapter 4/5 full rehual. None of which ever happend. Also, want to complain about your knight not doing a good job, try lvling one yourself as a knight main. It is very time consuming even with 40k hp 30k att.

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Saturday, February 16th 2013, 8:49pm

@Cerb- In AU server, where the tank is being questioned, all the DPS have -90% aggro already. So being a K/S over a K/P is better in this case because aggro can no longer be lowered below -90%.
@Soul- While it is true that Knights need an overhaul, the situation in this thread is clearly a L2P issue.
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Sunday, February 17th 2013, 3:15am

Quoted from "Soulvengeance;589316"

Point is, instead of getting all up set about your tanks inability to hold agro, complain to gameforge to ride RW harder about class balence. Knights needed an over hual in chapter 2. Really needed one in chapter 3. And chapter 4/5 full rehual. None of which ever happend. Also, want to complain about your knight not doing a good job, try lvling one yourself as a knight main. It is very time consuming even with 40k hp 30k att.


I know what its like trying to level a k/s XD My p/k/s is 77/75/75 and for the knight side I tried questing on it....with priest gear >.< Took me about 10 minutes to kill 1 mob, got to love those 8k punishment hits....

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@Cerb- In AU server, where the tank is being questioned, all the DPS have -90% aggro already. So being a K/S over a K/P is better in this case because aggro can no longer be lowered below -90%.
@Soul- While it is true that Knights need an overhaul, the situation in this thread is clearly a L2P issue.


Correct with both. And yes, we had a major look into what he was buffing and using, while he was using his skill correctly, we overlooked possibly one of the most important parts...the initial burn foods such as strong stim etc.

Apparently our tank asked an old player a while back about whether or not to use normal 'physical dps' burn foods as a tank and they replied it was a stupid idea...im assuming that was their response due to the server running neg aggro anyway, so our tanks could even tank with a white level 1 sword (did that once in gch lol), but we discarded that false info and got his buff order down pat.

Now as long as I wait 3-4 seconds after he starts the boss I can finally full burn, though still only just manages to hold aggro. He is nerfing out a some of his dodge/parry gear for pa/crit items currently, so shouldn't have any issues soon. I believe he is almost 40k pa unbuffed atm...so sorta getting there.
Cammo (82 M/82 W/82 R) 116,147 unbuffed Matk :D (95k pa - r/m)
Livia (82 P/77 K/75 S) wisdom O.o wtf is that...
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