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To be honest, most of the rotation early on is similiar to other mages.

The notable exceptions before lvl 70 are as follows. Fire arrows=max-this gives you a spammable 1 second, near fireball with the right bow. Fire Rose is a decent bleed with a damage increase which is ok during non-sped spam of Flame during boss fights, most might disagree with me on this. Magic Crossflow max (50) asap- this gives the m/s its true advantage-crucial speed boost=.5 second Flame. Strength of Ashes is a nice damage booster(1/3 extra) when your Flame Spirit goes away either after 40 seconds or when it dies.

After you have your 70 elite(Wind Fire Cultivation), make sure your Power of the Wind is maxed as well as Fire Arrows. This gives you a near or better than double Fireball(or roughly 2/3 of a Flame) spammable every second. Interestingly this is greater than Iceblade but not as seemingly fast for the following reasons: it seems to be slow for a mage to initially pull out their bow, and IB does its damage as 1 tic while m/s's Shot with WFC does a Shot damage tic, then a fire damage tic and finally a wind damage tic.

M/S truest advantage is the bow. Make sure the speed is less than 2.9. Also use it as a stat stick. Also put a recon, miracle, and burst rune in it.

Quoted from "gander;595060"

The notable exceptions before lvl 70 are as follows. Fire arrows=max-this gives you a spammable 1 second, near fireball with the right bow.

After you have your 70 elite(Wind Fire Cultivation), make sure your Power of the Wind is maxed as well as Fire Arrows. This gives you a near or better than double Fireball(or roughly 2/3 of a Flame) spammable every second.

Am I missing something? Power of the Wind and Fire Arrow aren't level-able on my M/S side...does the 70 elite change this, or do you mean leveling Shot itself? O.o

i have both at 77 which levels the magical accuracy and m crit bonus respectively. The damage is based on your lvl of wind and fire mastery, i think.

Quoted from "effervescent;595165"

Am I missing something? Power of the Wind and Fire Arrow aren't level-able on my M/S side...does the 70 elite change this, or do you mean leveling Shot itself? O.o

Power of the wind and Fire arrow are upgrade-able when u reach lvl 65+

65 really? -weird

Quoted from "gander;595261"

65 really? -weird

Like elemental catalysis though

Here my top secret M/S fail rotation; get 70 elites and spam Shot, Shot, Shot, Shot to anything that moves and keep spamming until you see sparkling animation around them, but better be sure than sorry and try to spam some extra Shot to current target before tabbing to next moving thingy. Add some other of the multiple skills here or there to give a boost withn your taste. Multiple nice skills, but...

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To be honest, most of the rotation early on is similiar to other mages.

The notable exceptions before lvl 70 are as follows. Fire arrows=max-this gives you a spammable 1 second, near fireball with the right bow. Fire Rose is a decent bleed with a damage increase which is ok during non-sped spam of Flame during boss fights, most might disagree with me on this. Magic Crossflow max (50) asap- this gives the m/s its true advantage-crucial speed boost=.5 second Flame. Strength of Ashes is a nice damage booster(1/3 extra) when your Flame Spirit goes away either after 40 seconds or when it dies.

After you have your 70 elite(Wind Fire Cultivation), make sure your Power of the Wind is maxed as well as Fire Arrows. This gives you a near or better than double Fireball(or roughly 2/3 of a Flame) spammable every second. Interestingly this is greater than Iceblade but not as seemingly fast for the following reasons: it seems to be slow for a mage to initially pull out their bow, and IB does its damage as 1 tic while m/s's Shot with WFC does a Shot damage tic, then a fire damage tic and finally a wind damage tic.

M/S truest advantage is the bow. Make sure the speed is less than 2.9. Also use it as a stat stick. Also put a recon, miracle, and burst rune in it.

Yeah, after doing some testing with a lvl 75 crossbow with a speed of 4 and a lvl 50 bow with a speed of 2.5 I found that the front end damage from the physical shot itself is inconsequential, ranging from 1-8k total damage. The back end flame arrow and wind arrow are the real damage dealers and were no different when I swapped from crossbow to bow doing between 140-175k damage each on lvl 79 mobs. I was using a mage with about 80k matk and 70% crit rate (280-350k dmg per shot fired). So endgame but not necessarilly OP. The speed with which you manage to get off your shot is the real issue so yeah a faster bow is key. It may be UD when you get it, but the lvl 64 Puppet Operator's Evil Dark Bow has a speed of 1.8. It is part of the Morrok line in Land of Malevolance. A quest called "Fight For Justice " gives it as a reward, so you may want to have a lower lvl guildie that's doing the line grab that one as they go past like I did. It is only one of 2 bows with that speed and both are in that level range. I do not know of any that shoots faster. It is bound on quest completion so they'll need an abl, as well as you'll need an item cleaner before you make it into a stat stick as it comes with 2 stats on it. The nice thing about Mage/Scout is that after the initial burn phase for any boss fight, as long as you have arrows, you will continue to do pretty decent sustained damage.

I was playing m/s and I can say that rotation on bosses is first you buff up with all speed casting buffs and pots you got then spam flame till your casting slow again then spam shot. As for a bow the best one would be Purple Rattan Bow http://www.runesdatabase.com/item/211906/purple-rattan-bow as it's speed is 2.0 which makes your shot spams be the fastest and also it drops OD in many places like DL/ZS/HoS. If you run those instances for some low lvls at least sometimes it drops OD almost every run.( just tell low lvls to loot the mobs).

I dont even play m/s but from what i hear spam flame, then spam shot after buffs, with 60/70 elite m/s does pretty good mage dps.

Quoted from "gigilomann"

I dont even play m/s but from what i hear spam flame, then spam shot after buffs, with 60/70 elite m/s does pretty good mage dps.

What is after buffs?

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I dont even play m/s but from what i hear spam flame, then spam shot after buffs, with 60/70 elite m/s does pretty good mage dps.

What is after buffs?

spam shot. With the mage 60/70 elites this is how they can maximize their dps.

Quoted from "gigilomann"

spam shot. With the mage 60/70 elites this is how they can maximize their dps.

ah, so m/s is now another s/wdn...

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Quoted from "gigilomann"

spam shot. With the mage 60/70 elites this is how they can maximize their dps.

ah, so m/s is now another s/wdn...

what? O.o no but their elite make it to where shot not only does fire damage or whatever but wind damage as well. So after a mages "burn phase" this helps them spread themselves apart from other mage classes.

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Quoted from "gigilomann"

spam shot. With the mage 60/70 elites this is how they can maximize their dps.

ah, so m/s is now another s/wdn...

what? O.o no but their elite make it to where shot not only does fire damage or whatever but wind damage as well. So after a mages "burn phase" this helps them spread themselves apart from other mage classes.

"Spam shot" like a s/wdn. That's what he meant.

Quoted from "Borella"

Quoted from "gigilomann"

Quoted from "Cike"

Quoted from "gigilomann"

spam shot. With the mage 60/70 elites this is how they can maximize their dps.

ah, so m/s is now another s/wdn...

what? O.o no but their elite make it to where shot not only does fire damage or whatever but wind damage as well. So after a mages "burn phase" this helps them spread themselves apart from other mage classes.

"Spam shot" like a s/wdn. That's what he meant.

I dont even honestly think s/wd's spam shot.

Quoted from "gigilomann"

I dont even honestly think s/wd's spam shot.

when you have GCD shot with speed buffs, shot is their highest dps skill...unless they changed it again >.>

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Quoted from "gigilomann"

I dont even honestly think s/wd's spam shot.

when you have GCD shot with speed buffs, shot is their highest dps skill...unless they changed it again >.>

No I think you're right just as a scout you'd want to rotate your highest dps'ing skills, dont thinkt hey'd have time to spam shot, maybe.

I used to have a guide made for this.

Statting: Magical Attack, Intelligence, Stamina. You're set. Aim for high magical critical hit rate on your equips.

Weapon: Use a bow, generally faster and physical damage doesn't make a difference. Weapon runes can go in both Bow and Staff.

Skills to use:

• Fire Arrows - Always have this active and max level unless you have the 70 elite skill
  
• Fire Rose - Deals damage over time, and additionally boosts your magical damage
  
• Flame - Your go to skill
  
• Fire Rose Explosion - This skill does more damage than Fireball (Doesn't share a cooldown with Fireball last I checked)
  
• Magic Crossflow - Increases casting speed, good for "burn phase"
  
• Shot - Leave it at level 0 unless you think that leveling it up will do anything, or you want to use it as scout primary. Carries fire/wind damage if you have Fire Arrows/Wind Fire Cultivation active
  

Rotation: If you don't have the 60 and 70 elite skills, here should be your rotation:

1. Buffs, Potions, Instruments + Magic Crossflow
   
2. Flame
   
3. Fire Rose (Fire Rose Explosion on the round after you get 3 stacks)
   
4. Fireball/Shot
   

Repeat 2 through 4. You can pick the skills depending on which does more damage and if you are running low on mana.

Not much of an expert for the 60 and 70 elites.