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Tuesday, April 23rd 2013, 5:24am

WD/W Question. DPS.

Curious on how WD/W does as a DPS instead of a Tank. Thank you in advance.;)
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Tuesday, April 23rd 2013, 2:51pm

Well probably it would be insane, but you will have to have good healers, to allow your CH or another WD/W make good aggro, to hold you. Otherwise there is not many good skills for rotation.... Well there are only set skill from GC and slash on warrior side (besides CC of course). You have 3 skills if there is anyone to hold you Double Chop, Beast Chop and Pulse Mastery. The last one is the most problematic, as you will have to cancel + aggro buff.

From my personal experience as tank with DPS jewelery I can easily make 1/2 of best DPS in party during boss fight, with berserk on, so on full DPS gear.....

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Tuesday, April 23rd 2013, 4:21pm

wd/w GREAT dps if youd like it to be :P just like all combos just need tp, work, and gold :P
TBh any combo with CC is now a good class :P
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Wednesday, April 24th 2013, 8:56am

wd/w does great as a dps, but has to pay more attention to aggro, and rage. A concern about rage is heals. Direct heals and regens reduce rage, but group heals do not. I forget if d/wd healing ripple or d/s camelia flower. When I play healer, I try and keep w/x, x/w at 80% with targeted heals if needed to get the most heals and less impact on rage. Your healer should already know about healing and rage, if not: just simply let them know and practice a bit.
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Wednesday, April 24th 2013, 8:34pm

i never knew anything about this.. regens, etc. reduce rage etc ... how?
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Wednesday, April 24th 2013, 8:40pm

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i never knew anything about this.. regens, etc. reduce rage etc ... how?


I'm calling BS... never in my life has a warrior ever told me to "stop healing them because it's reducing their rage".
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Wednesday, April 24th 2013, 9:34pm

im def curious about it tho if anybody else knows anything more into it? theres been d/s solo healin parties and for some reason ( not saying it is or isnt) but mytseriously my rage regeneration absolutely suckkkkkkkkkkked and never could figure out why.

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Wednesday, April 24th 2013, 10:45pm

Lol. Heals affecting Rage generation. Just Lol.
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Wednesday, April 24th 2013, 10:45pm

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i never knew anything about this.. regens, etc. reduce rage etc ... how?


As a Warrior, I have never seen my Rage affected by heal skills of any kind.
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Thursday, April 25th 2013, 7:51am

Quoted from "Borella;599037"

I'm calling BS... never in my life has a warrior ever told me to "stop healing them because it's reducing their rage".


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As a Warrior, I have never seen my Rage affected by heal skills of any kind.



Feel free to practice with it. It will only take about 1 min to see that direct target heals(Urgent Heal or Recover) do affect rage regeneration and AOE heals(GH or MEF) do not. I recommend trying it out in the battle grounds.

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MEF can be cast directly on the warrior, or x/w, and it still wont affect rage regeneration.
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Thursday, April 25th 2013, 8:10am

by how much though? is it the rage generation from being hit? or the rage generation from white hits? or both?
i know that recover registers as a magical damage skill (the initial burst heal) maybe this interferes with the rage generation mechanics when being hit by a mob?

i never noticed this before, but i can see it being a possibility with incoming burst heals and being hit by a mob/boss at the same time.

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Thursday, April 25th 2013, 9:00am

It is a chain effect. Direct target heals(*), reduce rage regen, which for a wd/w reduces the use of rage skills(ie slash), which is a dps generater. Now if they are doing a tanking role, it ends up affecting aggro generation in that chain too.

It seems that players are either so OP, or used to it already, that it is transparent, which is all a really good thing. This is mainly for players that want to improve or do not know about the link between heals and rage regen.


* examples of direct target heals are:
druid-Recover, Restore Life, Blossoming Life
priest-Urgent Heal, Regeneration, Heal
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Thursday, April 25th 2013, 11:43am

I'm anxious to hear more about this, but in all my time as playing a warrior, even P/W, the only link I've ever noticed between healers and rage is that if I get bubbled (wave armor) I don't generate rage for hits it absorbs. That's not necessarily a bad thing if I need the bubble, but I've had to right click remove bubbles some times. At risk of taking this thread further off topic, I think a P/W elite should make hits absorbed by Wave Armor still generate rage. Just sayin.
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Thursday, April 25th 2013, 12:26pm

im dying to see more convo about this topic, because if it is in fact true you got a lot of people that will have foot in mouth disease :P
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Thursday, April 25th 2013, 2:05pm

I fear this will be akin to the mage guy who claimed to be the top magic dps by statting dex as he was m/s...

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Thursday, April 25th 2013, 3:26pm

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I fear this will be akin to the mage guy who claimed to be the top magic dps by statting dex as he was m/s...


Lmao. They're probably related too. Camagic advised Statting Dex/P.Att as a Wdn/S.
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Thursday, April 25th 2013, 3:57pm

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Lmao. They're probably related too. Camagic advised Statting Dex/P.Att as a Wdn/S.


Camagic no longer advises statting dex to improve chiron accuracy. I guess that he got to the point where Druffbaum was trying to explain like... a year ago?

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Thursday, April 25th 2013, 8:02pm

Tested it. Heals did not reduce the rate I gained rage. Just his usual.
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Thursday, April 25th 2013, 8:57pm

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Just his usual.


Sums it up.

Even as a d/w I could never tell the difference between heals/not healing. If I was *casting* a heal, sure, rage generation slows, since you are not white hitting during a cast.

I just gotta say, some of the things people say on here makes me /facepalm so, soooo much.

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Friday, April 26th 2013, 3:54am

If it really works that way (heals reduce rage regeneration), it will probably be due to delay between rage regen and getting hit by something.
So you get hit--->heal to 100%---> no HP lost, no rage regen or you get hit --->no heal or under 100% ---> hp loos, rage reneg.
Personally I wouldn't care as CC would do most of the work anyway, but still worth knowing.
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