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Tuesday, June 4th 2013, 4:16pm

R/P or R/W?

I plan to main R/S, but I'm not sure what to pick for my 3rd class (I probably won't use it much if it all but I don't want to pick something useless in case I ever need it.) I was thinking about Priest because the general skills heals, holy arua, and magic barrier would be useful. Even some of the elites would be nice (especially Quickness Aura.) Though it would be a pain to level..

I've also been considering Warrior because the Berserk/Defensive Formations could come in handy, Brute Strength would help a lot too. Also, would the Slash's bleed count towards Wound Attack? I also like how the Warrior adds more to the Rouge's poison techniques. I think the biggest drawback for me is the Rage.. I also wouldn't like the idea of having two weapon sets depending on if I'm playing R/S (Dagger and Sword I'd guess) and for R/W Axes, since the elite skill mastery for 1h Axe seems vital.

Any thoughts or opinions on either? Or a different suggestion?

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Tuesday, June 4th 2013, 4:52pm

R/P is still a very viable combo, the dodge boost is pretty good if you plan on soloing, healing is almost negligible when you start stacking stats, but the passive boosts are nice and Holy Aura is nice for when you get in over your head in PvE and PvP. The crit boost on Wound Attack is really nice for finishing the combo but is probably not worth much when you get to 60%+ crit rate. It's not an impressive class like R/S is, but still a valid combination.
R/W is a great alternative to playing R/S, you get lots of nice temporary boosts, 1h Axe mastery (Although your weapon skill for axes caps at half of daggers meaning more missed attacks). Slash doesn't add in to Wound Attack damage, but is still a viable alternative skill to use in alternating with Shadowstab (Axes trigger bleed from Shadowstab once you get 50 elite skill). This combo really never has a dull moment in your rotation, and you can pretty much always be using one of your skills.

R/K is also a combo to consider, does about the same if not more damage than R/P and has some handy defense skills. No immunity or dodge boost but some extra Patk, Damage mitigation and extra crit boosters. Enhanced Armor is a massive help that probably more than covers what you get from Quickness Aura.

That's my input from seeing what others choose and why they choose the classes. I talk to people in game about that kind of stuff, you can try doing that if you need more specific info.

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Tuesday, June 4th 2013, 5:37pm

Rogue/Mage is a pretty good combo as well right now. A lot of end-game or close to end-game rogues rolled that class. I personally didn't roll it and I don't know the perks of the class besides just the general skills you get (Silence, Lightning..) but by the number of people rolling it, it's definitely worth looking into.

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Tuesday, June 4th 2013, 5:53pm

Quoted from "Gutterboy;603206"

Rogue/Mage is a pretty good combo as well right now. A lot of end-game or close to end-game rogues rolled that class. I personally didn't roll it and I don't know the perks of the class besides just the general skills you get (Silence, Lightning..) but by the number of people rolling it, it's definitely worth looking into.


It's because the 15 elite skill is vastly overpowered right now. It adds a Throw skill use onto every auto-attack, thus you get 2 for 1 attacks. And ranged AoE skills are nice, but it puts a cooldown timer on Premeditation. It's a good class but a bit broken at the moment which is why I didn't suggest it.

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Monday, June 10th 2013, 3:32pm

Quoted from "Rossbot;603213"

It's because the 15 elite skill is vastly overpowered right now. It adds a Throw skill use onto every auto-attack, thus you get 2 for 1 attacks. And ranged AoE skills are nice, but it puts a cooldown timer on Premeditation. It's a good class but a bit broken at the moment which is why I didn't suggest it.


could not be more wrong, the main elite skill is illusion blade dance which makes the r/m atm the highest dps r/anything in game during burn phase ( r/wrd will win otherwise ) all said the r/m is the best human combo u can get when it comes to dps (and i think the best in pvp or atleast up there)

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Monday, June 10th 2013, 3:56pm

Quoted from "romod;604262"

could not be more wrong, the main elite skill is illusion blade dance which makes the r/m atm the highest dps r/anything in game during burn phase ( r/wrd will win otherwise ) all said the r/m is the best human combo u can get when it comes to dps (and i think the best in pvp or atleast up there)


Yes, everyone rolled r/m for the 70 elite. Forget about the 15 elite that adds in tons more damage during every fight with every mob, its all about the last elite in game for the combo that lasts for only 30 seconds. Yep, makes sense.

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Monday, June 10th 2013, 4:28pm

If your set on maining r/s and nothing else, get warrior as 3rd, the w/s 70/70 elite bugs out scouts Blood Arrow general skill and you can use it on r/s. Which means it gives like 40% more damage along with the usual 40% pa or w/e it is.

p.s not sure if it was fixed in the last patch or not though lol
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Monday, June 10th 2013, 10:30pm

Quoted from "ghostwolf82;604267"

Yes, everyone rolled r/m for the 70 elite. Forget about the 15 elite that adds in tons more damage during every fight with every mob, its all about the last elite in game for the combo that lasts for only 30 seconds. Yep, makes sense.


what lol? read what the guy wrote again. everything i wrote in response was right. if you tell me that the 15 elite adds tons of damage its because of the 70 elite because otherwise outside of burst the 15 elite does not add tons of damage

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Monday, June 10th 2013, 10:56pm

r/wd > r/m

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Monday, June 10th 2013, 11:15pm

Quoted from "RoMunited;604319"

r/wd > r/m


plus, pdef buff can never be overlooked...
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Monday, June 10th 2013, 11:40pm

as much as i love the r/wd it doesn't have any interupt/silence skill :(
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Monday, June 10th 2013, 11:48pm

Quoted from "RoMunited;604319"

r/wd > r/m


yea i said that in my post but atm with how stupid easy the new instance is its r/m > r/wrd in there. other wise r/wrd is boss >> r/any combo

but the point was to prove the other poster wrong when he said the reason everyone is rolling r/m is because of 15 elite (while its ok its not the reason) and that its broken class which is why he would not suggest it, but everything the class has going for it would suggest the opposite. its hands down the best human rogue combo atm

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Tuesday, June 11th 2013, 7:55pm

Quoted from "romod;604330"

yea i said that in my post but atm with how stupid easy the new instance is its r/m > r/wrd in there. other wise r/wrd is boss >> r/any combo

but the point was to prove the other poster wrong when he said the reason everyone is rolling r/m is because of 15 elite (while its ok its not the reason) and that its broken class which is why he would not suggest it, but everything the class has going for it would suggest the opposite. its hands down the best human rogue combo atm


R/Wd is invalid in this arguement as the OP is a human. I can't imagine he'd want to make a new character...

But you are right, forgot about the Combo Throw damage boost, makes it throw 4 weapons instead of 2.
The main issues I remember from R/M when I played it for a while after the rework were that Combo Throw damage was broken (Fixed now), Day of Rain damage was broken (Broken still), and that Enlivened Blade damage was broken (Fixed now). Day of Rain damage is still broken right now, and I don't know where the 15 elite skill is figuring out what level Throw to use.

The 70 elite is nice but it's guaranteed not the reason why players are flocking to R/M over other rogue combos. The prevailing mechanics are Enchanted Throw and Combo Throw, the 70 elite is nice for burn mechanics in PvE but otherwise proves that there isn't much use for it in PvP.

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Tuesday, June 11th 2013, 8:35pm

Quoted from "Rossbot;604452"

R/Wd is invalid in this arguement as the OP is a human. I can't imagine he'd want to make a new character...

But you are right, forgot about the Combo Throw damage boost, makes it throw 4 weapons instead of 2.
The main issues I remember from R/M when I played it for a while after the rework were that Combo Throw damage was broken (Fixed now), Day of Rain damage was broken (Broken still), and that Enlivened Blade damage was broken (Fixed now). Day of Rain damage is still broken right now, and I don't know where the 15 elite skill is figuring out what level Throw to use.

The 70 elite is nice but it's guaranteed not the reason why players are flocking to R/M over other rogue combos. The prevailing mechanics are Enchanted Throw and Combo Throw, the 70 elite is nice for burn mechanics in PvE but otherwise proves that there isn't much use for it in PvP.


again ppl roll r/m bcs its dps is really good atm. the dps is really good mainly because of the 70 elite . its really that simple