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Mrpushpop

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Tuesday, May 20th 2014, 7:24pm

9 days, no scout thread

I think Cike forgot his weekly new thread asking for a scout fix. Luckily I am here to support my forum friend. FIX SCOUTS PLZ

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Tuesday, May 20th 2014, 8:34pm

Keep it up fellas. Maybe someday they will listen. I'll be happy when scouts are playable again

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Tuesday, May 20th 2014, 8:41pm

thanks pushpop :P

the support is greatly appreciated...

^.^

p.s. plz fix scouts :D
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Tuesday, May 20th 2014, 8:42pm

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and hoping for a different result. I guess asking for a Scout fix fits that definition perfectly.

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Tuesday, May 20th 2014, 8:44pm

We'll get it some day guys! ...right?

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Thursday, May 22nd 2014, 7:57am

We can always hope.

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Thursday, May 22nd 2014, 1:05pm

Yer meaneth "wish"

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Thursday, May 22nd 2014, 4:02pm

"We shall over come,,,some,,,day..."

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Thursday, May 22nd 2014, 4:03pm

Long Live the Scout...

Dreams count right?

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Saturday, May 24th 2014, 8:53pm

WTB OP Scout/(insert class of choice here). Resurrect a dead class.

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Saturday, May 24th 2014, 8:54pm

(insert class of choice here)

(druid)


:D



i've been thinking a bit about scouts and ranged damage lately(no surprise), and one of the biggest issues i have personally(most of you are just gonna roll your eyes and complain that there are larger issues etc) is the fact that bows are essentially useless for any scout main.

the over-dependence on damage essentially kills the flexibility of choosing between bow and xbow. there is simply no contest.

not only does it kill bows, but there is another issue as well...

the fact that attack speed increases have a substantially smaller effect for scouts than melee classes. even at attack speed cap, a 25% attack speed buff DIRECTLY correlates to a 25% damage increase, due to the fact that the output damage is a function of the char's DPS. since scouts damage is more dependent upon raw weapon damage rather than DPS, the attack speed increase has less effect, such that a 25% speed increase correlates to a <25% damage increase.

if scout damage formula was changed to model the melee formula a bit more, i think we would see a large improvement in scout dps.


going to test to get exact values.

did a quick test, and melee attack with stims hit ~23% harder than normal, yet ranged attacks with stims hit ~11% harder than normal.

was a VERY brief test, but results were already apparent. one may want to test some more, but the screenies of my test are here .


pretty much right on par with what one should expect with the current damage formula.
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This post has been edited 3 times, last edit by "Cike" (May 24th 2014, 9:43pm)


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Sunday, May 25th 2014, 8:31am

I wish they'd remove the cast time and knockdown on CC from S/Wd's, so at least people will play Scouts in SW again.
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Tuesday, May 27th 2014, 3:06am

increase range of skills(at least 1-2) as well as detection and scouts will instantly become viable in pvp again.

i propose an effective ranged of ~250 for detection and about the same for 1-2 instant skills with an xbow.
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Wednesday, May 28th 2014, 12:52am

I think everything should get nerfed to the scout level. Make people really work.

:borg:

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Wednesday, May 28th 2014, 1:28am

I think everything should get nerfed to the scout level. Make people really work.

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Wednesday, May 28th 2014, 2:55am

I think everything should get nerfed to the scout level. Make people really work.

:borg:

hehe, this is actually a good idea.

would at least prevent instances from being all burns :D
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Thursday, May 29th 2014, 12:53am


So lovely


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Sunday, June 8th 2014, 11:48pm

my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

Mrpushpop

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Monday, June 9th 2014, 1:50pm

Dear GM's, You should march to Runewaker and force them to fix scouts. Or forever be tormented by Cike. He will find you even if you are sleeping and remind you that scouts are broken. You have been warned.

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Tuesday, June 10th 2014, 4:03pm

You have to admit it cike your scout posts ARE getting old fast lol just find another class you like at this point i think the GM's found a way to blist you :P


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