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Wednesday, December 10th 2014, 1:03pm

hmm this last post reminds me of a certain time when Cerburus used to tank stuff for EDH or when he was dpsin on private server always getting us wiped because of his damn chiron -.-"

pretty good guide IMO. thanks to the creator of this post :thumbup:
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Friday, August 28th 2015, 4:54pm

Hey, sorry to necro an old thread, but I was curious if anyone knows if the Chiron skills are still bugged? What I mean is, am I just wasting to by leveling the Chiron skills, do they do the same damage regardless of the to in their respective skills?

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Friday, August 28th 2015, 11:31pm

AFAIK still bugged unfortunately. :(
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Monday, August 31st 2015, 12:51pm

Well, strictly speaking they aren't bugged, but they just scale poorly. That said, it doesn't hurt to put like 50 lvl into arrow of the centaur just for the incresed crit rate bonus.

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Monday, August 31st 2015, 4:42pm

What about beast tamer? Does that have any impact?

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Monday, August 31st 2015, 10:36pm

isnt the crit rate bonus only for chiron itself? its been a while...
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Tuesday, September 1st 2015, 12:38am

ITs definitely the Chrion not all pets right? so adding points to the oak it does scale?

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Thursday, October 15th 2015, 11:07pm

Updated the guide a bit. It's still pretty full of holes, but at least there isn't quite as much misinformation in it anymore. It's probably still relevant enough to endgame to be useful to a mid-level player now?

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Friday, October 16th 2015, 8:25am

Some thoughts/additions:

  • Frantic Briar doesn't trigger GCD (like CC), so you can do combos like CC -> FB -> another skill -> CC -> ... without "wasting" a slot in your rotation.
  • Why aren't you using Cross chop in your Wd/W boss burn rotation? Especially if you are able to hit the silence of a Wl/M, the combo CC -> Frantic Briar -> Cross Chop can deal huge amounts of damage (CC and Frantic Briar don't trigger GCD, so with a bit of luck you can land all 3 skills on 1 silence). Since Frantic Briar and Cross Chop deal AoE damage, they somehow get double increase from the silence.
  • Don't use Vampire Arrow on Wd/S (unless there is a S/R in raid, as you said). It just doesn't give enough damage to justify using so much focus on it.
  • There are some good mana potions craftable by alchemists (high level ones give over 6k mana, which can be massive)
  • I agree that Briar shield is good, but I don't think you should max it on a dps warden when you're short on TP
  • Generally, I think pet choice should be dependant on raid setup, e.g. it might be preferable to let a Wd/W summon the crystal so the Wd/S in the same group can summon his chiron (especially on bossfights longer than 10s or bosses with high crit resistance)


Might add some other points later, just took a glimpse at it ;)

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Sunday, October 18th 2015, 10:21am

Some thoughts/additions:

  • Frantic Briar doesn't trigger GCD (like CC), so you can do combos like CC -> FB -> another skill -> CC -> ... without "wasting" a slot in your rotation.
  • Why aren't you using Cross chop in your Wd/W boss burn rotation? Especially if you are able to hit the silence of a Wl/M, the combo CC -> Frantic Briar -> Cross Chop can deal huge amounts of damage (CC and Frantic Briar don't trigger GCD, so with a bit of luck you can land all 3 skills on 1 silence). Since Frantic Briar and Cross Chop deal AoE damage, they somehow get double increase from the silence.
  • Don't use Vampire Arrow on Wd/S (unless there is a S/R in raid, as you said). It just doesn't give enough damage to justify using so much focus on it.
  • There are some good mana potions craftable by alchemists (high level ones give over 6k mana, which can be massive)
  • I agree that Briar shield is good, but I don't think you should max it on a dps warden when you're short on TP
  • Generally, I think pet choice should be dependant on raid setup, e.g. it might be preferable to let a Wd/W summon the crystal so the Wd/S in the same group can summon his chiron (especially on bossfights longer than 10s or bosses with high crit resistance)


Might add some other points later, just took a glimpse at it ;)
Your first point is true, I do my rotation in DIYCE for wd/w so it will automatically do that, I did mention that in the skill section though I think. At least mentioned it doesnt trigger GCD


I do use Cross Chop in my rotation, just forgot to put it in there.

You might be right about vamp arrow. To be honest I just got in the habit of using it because oftentimes the fights dont even last long enough for me to run out of focus, but ill probably try out just leaving it out of rotation I guess.


I use craftable mana potions, Im not sure what part of the guide to put that in? I guess the buff section? Idk but its true that its good


Again you're right on briar shield but its too amazing as a skill with so much utility even when playing warden secondary that its hard for me not to tell someone to max it. But for the subsection of people that dont care about siege, never want to tank, but want to dps on warden then you're right its not particularly useful to max.


Every endgame fight that lasts more than 10 seconds will end with chiron dead before he gets off more than a few shots. That said, a fully patk buffed chiron >>> oak walker so its true that chiron is situationally better.


All good points