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Wednesday, July 2nd 2014, 3:57am

Thoughts about Ch/Wl and Ch/P

So, I got a ticket for 5th class, and was wondering what to pick. I have the the tanky ch/w and ch/m, and probably best dps ch/r between the champs. Was thinking about a Champion with good sustain, self heals to be exact. Considering Champions can yeld staffs, for siege, what would be better, UH, using a t10 healing staff(same gear as champ) or ch/wl rune siphon and the other buff that you can only use under 65% hp, and makes Dark Energy Strike hits harder, and heal when you use it.

And, besides the self heals, wanted to ask: How strong are the dark damage part of the Ch/Wl skills.


Ch/P: lvl 20 elite that reduces Holy Aura cd by 10s, you can only use it when you get a buff after being attacked in Shield Form? and if so, how often does it trigger?
How strong is self heal from 40 elite(Light Pulse)

Ch/Wl seems more fun, Ch/P seems more useful, and better overall in pvp, 2 mp based attacks, holy aura. and the 30% pdam boost for whole party.

Any Thoughts about them? Thanks.
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Roxzin m/wl 85/70 | Roxzn ch/m/r/w 87/70/70/70

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Wednesday, July 2nd 2014, 10:25pm

I don't really play Champ main but WL/Champ is my go to siege class.

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Wednesday, July 2nd 2014, 10:26pm

ch/p got hit with the nerf bat...hard...but then again, nobody that played it actually expected it to stay like it was forever...
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Wednesday, July 2nd 2014, 11:07pm

Was the nerf the UH and Rising Tide not able to be spammed when chain drive was triggered? Or was there something else too?
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Wednesday, July 2nd 2014, 11:21pm

that was it
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Thursday, July 3rd 2014, 1:09am

That was a nerf, aswell as an exploit fix.

Ch/p is just a buffing alt now.


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Thursday, July 3rd 2014, 2:17pm

But, what about ch/wl, any ideas which would be better? between ch/p and ch/wl
taking 70 elite out, since I won't use it often in siege.
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Thursday, July 3rd 2014, 4:07pm

Honestly Marcel, Looking over the skills, you would be better off playing Wl/Champ for sw. It is an HP monster which makes up for the squishiness. Think Mage that can take 2 or 3 shots from a rogue, very few rogues survive that. Not to mention because of the way ROM skill changes work, the 2 champion skills (changed to magical damage) still work like physical damage. So mage vs wl/champ goes like this

Mage silences Warlock, Warlock uses champion skills, Does magical damage but is immune to silence. Mage dies. Class also has magic immunes that can be cast on self and others, 4% hp regain per second that can be cast endlessly. (Can't tell you how much that has saved me) Plus people always think your hacking when they come out of the gate. take half your hp, they die, come back out to finish you off and your full hp again with no healer around.

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Thursday, July 3rd 2014, 11:46pm

Not to mention because of the way ROM skill changes work, the 2 champion skills (changed to magical damage) still work like physical damage

you mean like they ignore LoS as well? ;P
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Friday, July 4th 2014, 10:24pm

Well, I may go for that, as maybe a 4th toon. But now I already have my pvp champ gear done, and next I'd work on my m/wd, that soon will be able to go d/r for some fun too. well, picked ch/p, not going to use 60 ot 70, so I can reroll ch/wl easly later.
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Roxzin m/wl 85/70 | Roxzn ch/m/r/w 87/70/70/70

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Monday, July 7th 2014, 1:32pm

Cike Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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Thursday, July 10th 2014, 8:30am

I actually tank on c/p all the time and even heal on runs on c/p has great instant group heal. Wd/s + c/p = insane dps. I can get 700k dps while tanking end game on c/p I would say it is anything but just a buff alt. I have c/wl also, I wouldn't suggest that class at all. Wl/c is very fun though =).
Chapter 2 Elfuerte M/R reroll s/r chapter 3
Chapter 4 Eldebil S/WD/R
Chapter 5 Mizettto C/R/M/W/WL/P ( Now Wl/m buff alt)
Currently Eldebil WD/W tank/dps or S/WD dps

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Mizetto" (Jul 10th 2014, 8:39am)


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Thursday, July 10th 2014, 4:31pm

Awesome, thanks Mizetto, you are my idol haha, the reason I rolled champion xD
Roxzincrazy r/wd/s/m 87/85/85/85 | Crazybr wd/d 85/63
Roxzin m/wl 85/70 | Roxzn ch/m/r/w 87/70/70/70