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Wednesday, October 15th 2014, 8:22am

Warrior/Mage Tanking

I was bored one day and I had heard about Warrior/Mage being a viable Magical based Tank.

I started a party, got us a healer and some DPS. It ended up being around 6 of us. We went into Bethomia (while the holes in the ground were still there :S). I was able to tank and do around 25m+ DMG :missilelauncher: on the bosses, thanks to the really low MDef. We cleared 1-3 and gave up on the way to fourth because it was close to siege time and the holes were eating people.

I dont' have any specialized gear or anything. I just used a mix of my DPS and Honor gear. For this reason I think Something like Grotto that has like double the MDef would be a little more difficult to keep aggro on in my current state.

Unfortunately I never thought my little fun side-project would go anywhere so I didn't record it. Hopefully I can get another group of people willing do die a few times, since my aggro vs groups of mobs as W/M is really bad, and record my little adventure.

Anyways, where I'm trying to go with this is. Has anyone out there actually tried to make a specialized Warrior/Mage tank?
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Wednesday, October 15th 2014, 8:41am

I was my guilds offtank a lot of the time. Our tank had some pretty horrid net, and half the time he would lag out so bad that somebody had to take aggro....at the time I was doing the most damage in guild, so I naturally pulled aggro, so I made a heap of stam/def and stam/hp cloth gear to tank in....and it worked pretty well lol.

Of course dealing with mobs is a nightmare and near impossible to hold any aggro outside of your fail 5min cd group taunt, but it worked fine on bosses. At level I had tanked 1-5 of KBNhm (6 was the furthest AU got before server went down completely) and all of the ToSH bosses at around the same time.

So yes and no, I didn't stat solely as tank, used only 50/50 dps/tank gear, but it sure as hell helped our guild in progression at the time.
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Wednesday, October 15th 2014, 11:30am

We had 3 w/m in my guild that were able to tank Bethomia at lvl cap.
Now, one of them has sold his tank gear, and the two others are now sometimes tanking as K/M (much better tank).

I think that dealing with trash packs in grotto would be really painful. You will not keep agro on them, and not sure you will have enough pdef to tank properly... On bossfights it is fine. High pdef, high aggro, high damage.

About Pillars HM, well... don't know if it's possible. That would be crazy :hail:

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Wednesday, October 15th 2014, 11:36am

Grotto hm bosses should be fine, but as suggested above trash would be a real pain to a) hold aggro. And b) to actually survive. PoM I've seen some of those mobs wipe out a full geared k/w from 600k hp to almost dead so for sure not possible :D but if your party was good at ccing grotto hm could be possible I guess.
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Wednesday, October 15th 2014, 2:31pm

There were plenty of videos on w/m's tanking a long while ago, you being from PPK, thought you wouldve known about a w/m tanking long long ago lol
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Wednesday, October 15th 2014, 4:24pm


I was my guilds offtank a lot of the time. Our tank had some pretty horrid net, and half the time he would lag out so bad that somebody had to take aggro....at the time I was doing the most damage in guild, so I naturally pulled aggro, so I made a heap of stam/def and stam/hp cloth gear to tank in....and it worked pretty well lol.

So yes and no, I didn't stat solely as tank, used only 50/50 dps/tank gear, but it sure as hell helped our guild in progression at the time.
I used my Honor Gear. So the ghost stats aren't much help. INT/HP/Crist Resists/DMG Resists. PvE gear would Give me more crit and a lot of MAtk.

We had 3 w/m in my guild that were able to tank Bethomia at lvl cap.

I think that dealing with trash packs in grotto would be really painful. You will not keep agro on them, and not sure you will have enough pdef to tank properly... On bossfights it is fine. High pdef, high aggro, high damage.

About Pillars HM, well... don't know if it's possible. That would be crazy :hail:
Grotto hm bosses should be fine, but as suggested above trash would be a real pain to a) hold aggro. And b) to actually survive.
Wow, and yeah I was having problems on groups. That 5 minute cooldown on
Group Taunt is dumb. PoM is another beast entirely. SoD is so OP. Even
Wardens have trouble with those packs of mobs.


There were plenty of videos on w/m's tanking a long while ago, you being from PPK, thought you wouldve known about a w/m tanking long long ago lol
I came back like at level 77 cap from a two year break from RoM lol. I was working on leveling up and then establishing myself. Wasn't really paying attention to anything going on. Then, I joined PPK not even a year ago I don't think. And even 8 months ago (I have a video) I didn't have W/M yet. So no, I never looked at anything about it lol.
I did hear from BB and saw on his google class combo list that W/M was a viable tank a month or so ago. But just this past week I was bored enough to look into it.
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Thursday, October 16th 2014, 4:38am


There were plenty of videos on w/m's tanking a long while ago, you being from PPK, thought you wouldve known about a w/m tanking long long ago lol

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I came back like at level 77 cap from a two year break from RoM lol. I was working on leveling up and then establishing myself. Wasn't really paying attention to anything going on. Then, I joined PPK not even a year ago I don't think. And even 8 months ago (I have a video) I didn't have W/M yet. So no, I never looked at anything about it lol.
I did hear from BB and saw on his google class combo list that W/M was a viable tank a month or so ago. But just this past week I was bored enough to look into it.


It was big when KBNH was the highest instance.
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Thursday, October 16th 2014, 5:52am

w/m is an exellent tank untill you have to deal with multiple ennemys at once. the problem with the class is that you have no magic based aoe so you wont be able to keep agro on more then 1 target effectivly. on the other hand with a shield, def bonus from your elites you should be able to get high enough to tank most bosses. well... at least beth high, dont know too much about the higher places pdef requirement. from what i've seen you almost need a 2nd tank for trash if you plan on bringing a w/m in as boss tank.
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Thursday, October 16th 2014, 6:55am

It was big when KBNH was the highest instance.
Yeah I heard around 80-82 cap. I was playing at that time but I was just leveling... lol Not much endgame action/knowledge for me then lol

w/m is an exellent tank untill you have to deal with multiple ennemys at once. the problem with the class is that you have no magic based aoe so you wont be able to keep agro on more then 1 target effectivly. on the other hand with a shield, def bonus from your elites you should be able to get high enough to tank most bosses. well... at least beth high, dont know too much about the higher places pdef requirement. from what i've seen you almost need a 2nd tank for trash if you plan on bringing a w/m in as boss tank.
Exactly. I was having trouble with the groups of mobs around the instance. I'd tell the DPS to only attack what I'm attacking, but one heal and the healer would pull the entire group. A magic based AoE with a short cooldown and W/M tanking would be much, much more effective.
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Thursday, October 16th 2014, 9:53am

I imagine this for the w/m lvl 80 elite : Transforms blasting cyclone into magical damage. Also increases aggro if a shield is equiped.

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Thursday, October 16th 2014, 4:50pm

and lower cooldown! lol :)

Knight's WW Shield is like what 6 seconds? not sure.
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Friday, October 17th 2014, 1:40am

6 seconds yeah. and i think making blasting magical damage would be a great idea, currently w/m really doesnt need to invest so much tp into its skills. and i think adding a nice aoe hit would be great to further enhance the class, think it was suggested on en forum before.
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Friday, October 17th 2014, 2:15am

I haven't played W/M DPS in a while, so this is off the top of my head...

3 skills do 90% if not more of your DPS?

Let's See: Fire/Electric weapons and Electrical Rage.
Lightning's Touch is just extra. Some ppl prefer to not even use it. Thunder Sword is more of a PvP skill imo.
Anything else for CC is Patk based and leveling the skill will do nothing.
That's it. Ty come again. Lol
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Thursday, October 23rd 2014, 6:29am

Late Night Pug! By the end so many ppl had to leave so we Trio'd last boss lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDKqtSmUQfI
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Thursday, October 23rd 2014, 4:49pm

Nice vid

Did the modify the last boss? Gasp on the undead used to be deathly. Everyone had to spread out the whole fight

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Thursday, October 23rd 2014, 5:10pm

He still does it. I was just lucky since some guy kept walking over me. Unless you mean the Wd/W. You've alway been able to have up to 3 ppl on the boss, but it had to be like perfect or ppl would die.
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