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Sunday, December 7th 2014, 12:55pm

Champion/rogue Dps discussion

Hallo,
I'm a ch/r from the Eu server Isiltir. (Forgot my forum account details on the eu side hence I'm posting here)
Our server seems to have a lot of champs for a quiet little server like ours, I think we have like 5 endgame ch/r or so.
Coming to the point, I'm done quite a bit of dps testing on this combo, with Shield form @ 0, 50, I have a t11+16 1h hammer from Grotto and a 2h t12+20 from Dreamland (Found someone who was selling it so quickly snapped it up otherwise I have no hope of getting +20 stuff lol)
Since my 2h wep is @ a much higher tier and + than my 1h I've resorted to using the WA iss to dps and kept Shield form at 50.
This has resulted in me being able to keep up and even outdps r/m with similar gear in Grotto HM(t11+19 weaponry, t12+17 weaponry, +18 rings etc.)
In vids on youtube I've seen other ch/r's in action as dps, I'd like to know what do the ch/r on the US side prefer? Do you keep shield at 0 and use a 1h + daggy for rune pulse spam? or do you keep Shield @ 50 and use Clone Conversion for the patk bonus but spam primarily Shadowstab in burst because of Low chain drive proc in normal form/Disassembly mode?
In case its relevant, I have ~ 122k patk unb (with title) with 1h + kibensty offhand and 114k with the 2h wep, and ~ 6.6k crit (though I still have trouble critting in goh).
We still havent cleared b3 in PoM on our server :/
~Tsachamp
Thank you for your time.

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Sunday, December 7th 2014, 11:41pm

The last Ch/R I saw stopped playing awhile ago when amplified attack and awakening of the wild no longer worked together. I heard that those physical attack buffs do not work at all on ch/r's now.

The DPS we saw back then was ALRIGHT. Was better than r/s and r/wd, but worse than wd/w and r/m. That's all I have to say about that class though, sorry.

It'd be nice if you linked the videos you are talking about.


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Monday, December 8th 2014, 1:52am

What I prefer as a Ch/R dps is Shield @ 0, I have a 1-h Hammer from Grotto (T11, +20) and a Dim Light ( Clean T7,+18 ) and like you said I would surpass or stay at the same amount of DPS as a R/M. As I am running toward a boss I always, always, always put on Death Arrives and Rune Overload as it really does help a lot with your dps. Another thing someone could do before a fight is to use Shadowstep on the boss to gain that Pdam and PAspeed. Other than that I have tried doing CC before a fight but found that it took to long to use the skill and still have enough time to pop buffs and get back in shield form but it definitely helped out a bit. Shadowstab is in my rotation but not really a spam I mostly do the Rune Pulse spam. That is about all I do as a DPS :D.
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Monday, December 8th 2014, 3:09am

I've found 2h to always be better than 1h for tanking and dpsing, I have both and did many runs with both before completely using only 2h always. c/r is on par with r/m and wd/w only problem is almost no tanks can hold their aggro i can rune pulse crit for 5.7m in PoM hard on c/r and if i get 2 of those in a row = dead miz.
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Monday, December 8th 2014, 5:29am

As a nub ch/r could you experienced ones share your countdown buffs, what you pop for burns etc

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Tuesday, December 9th 2014, 8:42pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky3izR7CnjQ
Here you go Bb, I think there's a dps ch/r in there, cant see atm though as my connection is simply terrible ^^
Ehm, i think with this starsplinter wheel of fortune thing I could try to get my 1h to +20, because that would simply be ideal for dpsing, I've always been of the opinion that Rune pulse spam = best:P However I'm f2p so..seems unlikely that i'll be getting my hands on those jewels anytime soon lol
Mizetto, I've seen your vids yeah, but with 2h the chain drive proc's are so few and far in between that its pretty annoying which is why i always switch over to 1h
when tanking~
Uhm the CD's I use while dpsing are the usual melee dps ones? caviar, lute, tamb, stim, crit pot, Clone conversion, Forge, (running to boss) death arrives, rune overload, then Imprisonment pulse and Shadowstab spam on the boss until its dead (and rune pulse whenever chain drive is up) but like I said, in normal form, i maybe see 1 or 2 chain drives max in the first 15 seconds or so..
And miz, 5.7m? o.O dahell The hardest hit I've made is ~ 2.8m maybe in GoH HM lol, could you please state what debuffs is your party using on the boss, and do you have IBW?
Screenies if possible pleaaaase ^^
and Ch/r is definitely on par with r/m, although personally I feel wd/w is still wayyy better in terms of dps ofc (Me and one other friend shifted over from wd/w to ch/r and r/m respectively because no one on the server could hold our aggro ;()

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Tuesday, December 9th 2014, 10:43pm

Caviar Sandwich, Strong Stimulant, Deadly pot, Death Arrives, Clone Conversion, Disassembly mode, Rune Overload ,Iron Blood Will, throw down Imprisonment Pulse while running to the boss, shadow step then dps. If you are 2h which is the better dps rage pots, Sardo ISS and rage cape are very important to keep rune overload running the whole fight.
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Wednesday, December 10th 2014, 12:26am

ahh so I'm missing set skills and and the cape, I've been wd/w for a while since i swapped from k/s and I just fail at any form of dps to hold aggro and wanted to make sure there wasn't anything I was missing for countdown. I'm trying to get used to it but I fail pretty terribly at ch/r LOL

Thanks alot for your input, appreciate it :)

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