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Sunday, January 11th 2015, 4:33am

Druid/Warden... What should my 3rd class be.

I haven't played ROM for a while, but I might start again. I know that I'm about level 18 for both my Druid and Warden Classes, and wonder what the 3rd class should be.

I was thinking Mage, since it is very versatile with Druid since they have near identical clothing and weapons. I also heard that it's good for AOE attacks, which might be useful for my Warden Class, since I basically use my Tree Spirit as a tank while casting buffs, heals, and ranged DPS.

However, I also heard that Scout is also good for Druid, since it gives good healing skills. However, I'm not sure how the ammo works (how much we keep, what damage they do, and how much they cost).

From what I heard, Druid/Scout is better for parties since it has better heals, but Druid/Mage is better for solo since it gives both healing and Damage.

Can someone else explain which would be a better choice? Thanks.


Also, how do Elite Skills work with 3 classes? If I pick Scout or Mage as my third class, will I be able to get Druid-Scout Elite Skills or Druid-Mage Elite skills? Also would I be able to get Warden-Third Class Elite Skills?

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Sunday, January 11th 2015, 5:06am

I think D/S is still one of the best healers around, although D/Wd is also common because of the Mdam buff, as is D/W for giving melee classes damp (aka. Awakening of the wild - not sure if other server calls it damp as well, but everyone on Govinda I know of calls it damp for some reason lol).
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Sunday, January 11th 2015, 6:02am

I personally preferred D/wdn when I was questing my druid side up from 65+
With the briar elite skill you can make some magey gear/staff and be able to kill mobs fine(IMO the magic dmg buff helps) and your heals will still be great on yourself from briar(briar life elite)



D/wd is a fun healer to play and doing 500k crit heals on a Knight in an instance feels OP
But D/s is a really decent healer.... You get to lag everyone out with D/s camellia flower :evilgrin: but you do not get any nifty party buffs such as D/wdn m.dmg buff or D/w p.atk + p.dmg.


As for D/s and damage... your shot from scout side will not do very much because it is a physical attack :/
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Sunday, January 11th 2015, 10:41am

I was thinking Mage, since it is very versatile with Druid since they have near identical clothing and weapons.

First of all you should ask yourself what you want. Do you want to run instances or mostly alone (questing and killing mobs). If you want to run Instances, do you want to be DPS or Heal. You need to pick one, if you want to be decent in that role. Mage and Druid might both wear clothes but they use different stats to pimp.

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I also heard that it's good for AOE attacks, which might be useful for my Warden Class, since I basically use my Tree Spirit as a tank while casting buffs, heals, and ranged DPS.

Warden makes mostly physical dps, mage makes magical dps, so Wd/M is not a good idea ... Mage/Warden on the other hand is a good magical combo.

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From what I heard, Druid/Scout is better for parties since it has better heals, but Druid/Mage is better for solo since it gives both healing and Damage.

Yes, that's true, but i think that's all a Druid/Mage is good for, running around solo (for questing), Mage/Druid might be a good choice for siege war.

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Also, how do Elite Skills work with 3 classes? If I pick Scout or Mage as my third class, will I be able to get Druid-Scout Elite Skills or Druid-Mage Elite skills? Also would I be able to get Warden-Third Class Elite Skills?

The third class does not affect first/second class at all, it is simply there to give you a more choice of 1st/2nd combinations. Have in mind that there are not enough quests to level three classes to maximum, there are not even enough to level two classes. Most 2nd and 3rd classes stay level 50, 60 or 70, depending on useful elite skills.

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Sunday, January 11th 2015, 3:04pm

I would suggest to go either druid/scout or druid/rogue.

druid/scout it possibly the strongest healer in the entire game in terms of straight heals, it has a lot of aoe options with camelia and healing shot and also you'll bring a group cleanse and 2 interupts.

druid/rogue on the other hand is a very interesting less popular pick that will bring crit resist reduction and 20% attack speed/casting speed buff to the party wich in curent meta might be more usefull then any additionnal healing. for questing you do double damage with your 60 elite and earth arrow wich makes it the best questing combo for druid.

edit: the d/r catalyst doesnt stack with stim, just go d/s
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Sunday, January 11th 2015, 3:11pm

having just got our D/R to 90 on this part exp event I can say for questing it can be very fun. Even in Wailing Fjord with an old vahtos set, and some OLD OLD flower god pieces she was having no issue killing or dieing (we did have a T9 +16 staff though). We are starting to gear it up now and probably going to end up with a healing set and a dmg set. Mostly because we also picked M/Dr since we didn't have one already.

My druid however is D/Wd/S/W I did this cause he will pretty much just be a healer/buffer for any instances. Questing was a little slow, but he could easily live. Killing is where he was slow. If you were to go D/Wd/S you do get a wd/s or s/wd which while they are physical attack may be fun (different set of gear needed). I did this so that I could have the Mdmg buff, the pdmg/attk buff, and awesome group healing with a quick switch. Mostly he is on D/Wd however.

Dr/M I don't think will kill much faster than the other druid combos, or at least not enough to really make you go WOW. I think that part falls down on gear.


As some have said here 90% of it is what you want to do, and what you like though. Reading through the elite skills may shed some like on which would help your wants though.

M/wd is very good and I have seen some Wd/M statted in such a way that they were pretty nice... however I think that may be only if you are willing to dump a decent amount into it. I wouldn't say it is bad dmg, I think it is more the case you gotta design the gear in a certain way. (I haven't tried so this is off of others that I have seen playing it)

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Sunday, January 11th 2015, 7:25pm

Repeating what everyone else is saying, it all depends on what play style you want. Magical dps, healer, physical dps, tank, or support.
In my opinion, d/s is the top group healer, and a good one can solo heal a 12 man raid easily. This is accredited to its group heals that reach beyond one's group in a raid.
However, if you go d/wd, you're gonna have the strongest heals due to your level 60 elite. You also get a nice magic damage buff for your magical users in the party.
I honestly do not know much about d/r, though it is a pain when trying to heal a gate in sw, because they can make enemy gates (and even enemy players) not receive any heals.
I honestly do not know much about d/m either, however, with m/d, the high the level of your earth pulse, you can provide a nice magic defense debuff on a boss that does stack with all the other common defense debuffs.

Note: I'll say a little more when I get on a computer later instead of my phone and can look at each elite skill more easily.
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Sunday, January 11th 2015, 7:26pm


Also, how do Elite Skills work with 3 classes? If I pick Scout or Mage as my third class, will I be able to get Druid-Scout Elite Skills or Druid-Mage Elite skills? Also would I be able to get Warden-Third Class Elite Skills?
The third class does not affect first/second class at all, it is simply there to give you a more choice of 1st/2nd combinations. Have in mind that there are not enough quests to level three classes to maximum, there are not even enough to level two classes. Most 2nd and 3rd classes stay level 50, 60 or 70, depending on useful elite skills.


So I'm already a Druid/Warden, does that mean I'm only able to get Druid/Warden elite skills?

If that is the case, then is going for scout worth it since we wouldn't get the elite skills? They have to use another combat resource than mana, which might make things difficult.

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Sunday, January 11th 2015, 7:38pm

One may have elite skills from all permutations of class matchup. Acquiring them all can be a challenge. However, only those related to currently active classes may be used at any given time.

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Sunday, January 11th 2015, 8:04pm

So I'm already a Druid/Warden, does that mean I'm only able to get Druid/Warden elite skills?

If that is the case, then is going for scout worth it since we wouldn't get the elite skills? They have to use another combat resource than mana, which might make things difficult.

As Heron said you can have every elite skill for every class combination your character has. You can get lvl 15-45 elite skills as soon as your character hits the corresponding level, but for elite skills 50, 60 and 70 both, your main class and secundary class, must have that level.

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Sunday, January 11th 2015, 9:32pm

So asuming I get Mage as my third class this means I'm elgible for

Druid/Warden Elite Skills
Druid/Mage Elite Skills
Warden/Druid Elite Skills
Warden/Mage Elite Kills
Mage/Druid Elite Skills
Mage/Warden Elite Skills

As long as the levels match up

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Sunday, January 11th 2015, 10:37pm

and only when you are on that class combination, but yes

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Sunday, January 11th 2015, 10:38pm

So asuming I get Mage as my third class this means I'm elgible for

Druid/Warden Elite Skills
Druid/Mage Elite Skills
Warden/Druid Elite Skills
Warden/Mage Elite Kills
Mage/Druid Elite Skills
Mage/Warden Elite Skills

As long as the levels match up

So it is.

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Monday, January 12th 2015, 12:42am

and only when you are on that class combination, but yes

So I can play as a Druid/Warden and get those elite skills, and then switch to Warden/Druid and get those Elite skills. If that's the case, then I might make another thread in the Warden section to see whether Mage/Warden or Warden/Scout is better.

My choices are either Mage or Scout. Overall I like using Ranged DPS, whether magic or physical, although I'm not sure how much harder it is to manage Focus and Ammunition.

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Monday, January 12th 2015, 1:37pm

and only when you are on that class combination, but yes

So I can play as a Druid/Warden and get those elite skills, and then switch to Warden/Druid and get those Elite skills. If that's the case, then I might make another thread in the Warden section to see whether Mage/Warden or Warden/Scout is better.

My choices are either Mage or Scout. Overall I like using Ranged DPS, whether magic or physical, although I'm not sure how much harder it is to manage Focus and Ammunition.


As i said before, you can get level 15 - 45 elite skills when your character arrived at the corresponding level. When you want to have level 50, 60 and 70 elite skill both, your main class and secundary class need to have this level. But you will get level 50, 60 and 70 elite skill for both combinations of your classes, e.g. you are level 50/50 with Druid/Warden and both classes have the elite skills up to level 45 (required to get lvl 50 elite skill), then you will get the lvl 50 elite skill for Druid/Warden and Warden/Druid when you finish the quest. Same for level 60 and 70 skill.

And if i am not mistaken, you can omit all elite skills up to level 60, then when you go get level 70 elite skill you will get all other elite skill for that class combination, BUT you will have to go all the way for elite skill with at least one class combination.

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Tuesday, January 13th 2015, 2:03am

Looking at other threads, it seems that Scout is really only good for backing up other skills, and isn't a very good class by itself, while Mage is a pretty decent class and Mage/Warden is a good combo, so I'm leaning towards mage. Although I might change my mind if Scout isn't nerfed anymore.

I'll be making threads in appropriate sub-class forums to ask more questions.