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Saturday, March 7th 2015, 11:42pm

Totally agree with Soulcalibur that K/W is the best tank ( yes i said it) and hope they don't break it anytime soon.

I am sitting at 435 to 550K HP, 104K Patk and 143K patk with Berserk, crit 4850 at 69%, accuracy 3902, 650K pdef and that is with only my personal buffs. But also didn't use quick reflexes, crit pots for the crit rate. ( also have 6 pieces of gear to restat that have remain/mist/frost stats on them )

I ran Grotto hardmode with people from VVV and some friends and didn't have any issues on aggro except once, but i am still learning my rotation on my K/W. If i pop eggrice and pdef food i can reach 1.2M pdef but i think it is not needed that high.

It always depends of the DPS you have with you, when you burn a boss in 10 seconds doesn't matter which tank you have knight or warden. But if you got a fight that lingers on, your warden will be dead.

I would suggest to go at least T7 ot T8 on every piece of gear as a tank, i am gonna T9 my chest piece like i did my shield


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Monday, March 9th 2015, 4:06pm

So, what I am getting from this thread is that K/W has surpassed some balance point where they can now add Patt to the point of being relevant DPS without sacrificing survivability. I don't think it is to provide more aggro thru damage, but more damage to feel more involved. Should also help genral questing , minigames and such. Perhaps it is time to replace some Stam/Pdef with Stam/Patt.
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Monday, March 9th 2015, 11:03pm

i say give knights shield form, then they can stat 6 str pa on all pieces. trololol
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Tuesday, March 10th 2015, 5:20pm

Minus CoE hm stating pure stam/pa works completely fine and you can surpass the 20% pdef of bosses for harder hits which equals more aggro :pump: I am just going to stat some alt acc gear that has some added stam and def for the hard hitting trash. and get outa here cerb you're drunk :beer:
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Thursday, March 12th 2015, 4:36am

Good luck, statting like that, with trash and bosses in CoE HM/HoE/HoF/HoW (when those open)


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Thursday, March 12th 2015, 5:54am

Quoted from "Soulcalibur"

Good luck, statting like that, with trash and bosses in CoE HM/HoE/HoF/HoW (when those open)


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Funny thing is that they have! If you read what Silent and Duv said, they said they have been tanking those instances with little to no problems they way way they are statted.

My conclusion: You can stat 3 Stam/hp 3 Stam/Def or (now read realllllly carefully) You can stat with a mix of Str/Pa and Stam/Pa with a Stam/def here and there, and still be able to tank things.
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Thursday, March 12th 2015, 5:55am

I've seen my guild tanks get one shot at CoE HM single mob pulls.
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Thursday, March 12th 2015, 11:06am

and then we see mythomage here... tanking last boss coe hm... with what 85k hp??? and doing 60+mil on boss.....lmao and we are worried about how we stat as a knight??? go find it lol

lmao. and duv tanks daily for us with his set up, which is mostly sta pa and he can hold wd/w aggro pretty good, me, saela, and calon, dont even use a tranq, its nice to be able to use a rage pot mid fight and keep burning.
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Thursday, March 12th 2015, 2:30pm

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lmao. and duv tanks daily for us with his set up, which is mostly sta pa and he can hold wd/w aggro pretty good, me, saela, and calon, dont even use a tranq, its nice to be able to use a rage pot mid fight and keep burning.
I feel like most of the other servers run with mostly r/m so the K/w don't have to keep aggro over OP wd/w''s with 150k+ p.atk unbuff.. but I could be wrong

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I've seen my guild tanks get one shot at CoE HM single mob pulls.
if your tanks are getting 1 shot in CoE HM from a single mob... then they are not a tank lol

with 800k+ pdef on wd/s sustained(no dump or holy prot) I can survive fine and max hit that I have seen from trash was about 150k from one of the pirate zombie mobs
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Thursday, March 12th 2015, 4:23pm

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I feel like most of the other servers run with mostly r/m so the K/w don't have to keep aggro over OP wd/w''s with 150k+ p.atk unbuff.. but I could be wrong

if your tanks are getting 1 shot in CoE HM from a single mob... then they are not a tank lol

with 800k+ pdef on wd/s sustained(no dump or holy prot) I can survive fine and max hit that I have seen from trash was about 150k from one of the pirate zombie mobs
We have wd/w in party when there is 2 of them to deaggro each other.

Our tanks stat like normal tanks, little bit of everything, they have around 500k+ pdef. Slime golems tend do that.
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Thursday, March 12th 2015, 4:49pm

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Our tanks stat like normal tanks, little bit of everything, they have around 500k+ pdef. Slime golems tend do that.
I believe those poison/slime mobs before 2nd boss can just be chain silence/stunned. But we tend to just skip that room and invis pot into 2nd boss room... if you hang a left inside there is PLENTY of room in there to just invis pot XD
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Thursday, March 12th 2015, 7:42pm

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Quoted from "Lolim"

I feel like most of the other servers run with mostly r/m so the K/w don't have to keep aggro over OP wd/w''s with 150k+ p.atk unbuff.. but I could be wrong

if your tanks are getting 1 shot in CoE HM from a single mob... then they are not a tank lol

with 800k+ pdef on wd/s sustained(no dump or holy prot) I can survive fine and max hit that I have seen from trash was about 150k from one of the pirate zombie mobs
We have wd/w in party when there is 2 of them to deaggro each other.

Our tanks stat like normal tanks, little bit of everything, they have around 500k+ pdef. Slime golems tend do that.
We run with wd/w no matter how many may be in the party..... Plus i can achieve over 500k pdef easily with my statting. If they are statting less pa and more pdef they should be well over that number
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Friday, March 13th 2015, 1:34am

Hurray for eggrice... Making paper tanks viable since chpt2

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Edit: well hurray RW for making all the newer instances burn or die. that probably explains this thread better.

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Friday, March 13th 2015, 2:55am

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Hurray for eggrice... Making paper tanks viable since chpt2

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Edit: well hurray RW for making all the newer instances burn or die. that probably explains this thread better.
LOL i don't use eggrice, ask lolim. Plus It is easy to break 500k pdef with newish stats and buffs like weave these days
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Friday, March 13th 2015, 3:04am

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LOL i don't use eggrice, ask lolim. Plus It is easy to break 500k pdef with newish stats and buffs like weave these days
Lol duva ^refuses to even use egg rice
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Friday, March 13th 2015, 4:10am

With a base of 211 k pdef I can easily get to 540 with my pet, hero pots, the crafted pet food and scarlet love. Higher if I use my zodiac pets. With egg rice you can get to like 700 even higher if you go k/p but that's a waste. I can have 556 pdef and 160 pattack once buffed even without weave, its really not hard. Then you can add transform pots or rice if you ever needed to but I only have like 5 rice so I'm saving them. Id rather use a santa pot, 20% stam ftw.

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Saturday, March 14th 2015, 2:04am

Idk I like running around with 680k hp, 530k pdef, 108k PA buffed. I like to use Rock pot for the pure HP%. (Sorry healers) Works well for me. I mean, I know we all have our own play styles and this is just what I choose. Just do what's best for you and your guild.

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Saturday, March 14th 2015, 2:37am

I have heard that each instance has a max pdef,so even if you are at 1 mil pdef you can still take damage in the windmill. Is there any way to confirm this? or find out the max for the end game-ish instances? That would be telling, we could then know exactly how much pdef starts to be a waste.

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Saturday, March 14th 2015, 2:49am

prob works same as adf in phys formula

5x boss/mob pa should be max
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Saturday, March 14th 2015, 11:35am

this isnt a your doing it wrong... my statting is better... my gear is better... omg you use more buffs than i do... or a what class is better tank thread.. as far as i know... correct me if im wrong.

i dont think there is a wrong way to stat, if you can hold aggro for your guild, and survive the fight, and clear the instance, well sir, then you are doing whats right.

But its a thread just to put together how other knights stat their gear, how they do things, just to get a better consensus, and to pool all resources together all on same thread. This thread hopefully will be a great tool down the road for up and coming knights, and well to anyone really, if such and such setup works great for them, someone may say well hmm, i may try it that way on my next piece.
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