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Im a tank on sio eng server
I used to stack patt but im switching all patt into dmg
right now i have 23k dmg
54k patt
316k hp
270k deff
50% crit
50%parry
I stack 3x sta patt
3x sta/hp
No sta deff since lvl 90/92 pieces give a sh.it load deff already speciale when all +20
Make sure your rings are +20 does alot in aggro
Also has 39.4 k stamina as k/w.
No aggro problems on trash just keep aggro skill on cd while tanking trash.
On bosses only problems i had was with a warden/w or w/wd
Talking in crypt. In hoe toale no problems so if somebody has questions just ask always open to give info already playing since 2009 knight.

Currently struggling to hold aggro vs OP wd/w in crypt on k/w. Comparing to other people in thread, my damage is really low (and to some others, so is my attack)...

Even putting 4 dps items (old stats but all str/pa), I have issues when Truth Shield Bash and/or Whirlwind shield don't crit....

So the question is: is using a 1h axe worth using? comapre to 1h sword, the max weapon skill is much lower, so I am worried about a lot of misses.

Also, current rotation is [charge/holy seal], punishment, Threaten, Authoratative Deterrence, Truth Shield Bash, Whirlwind shield, holy strike spam stuff.

This "seems" to gerenate the most aggro after 5s, but has low initial aggro compared to just threaten-->wws-->tsb-->AD rotation. Any suggesitons in this regard?

Quoted from "BlankMinded"

Currently struggling to hold aggro vs OP wd/w in crypt on k/w.

I asume you know asbw?

We're not even in the same party, but yes, I've been using asbw for years. The issue is the wd/w hitting 6m+ beast chops/pulse masteries that have a 5x aggro bonus.

I'm still wondering if a 1h axe is viable to use ----- do you miss any skills with maxed 1h axe skill? With 1h sword, I pretty much never miss anything in pve, but 1h axe max weapon skill is much lower, and if I miss threaten, wws or truth shield bash, ppl will die xD

what about putting an accuracy in the axe worse case scenario? I'm guess the difference in damage willl be greater then a fatal rune regardless

edit: actually looking at it in cp got 17.1k damage for crafted 92 axe t12+20 vs 17k for 95 crafted sword of same quality the axe has crit on it though so say you replace the wrath with an accuracy you get 100 extra damage and 300 more crit the axe also have about 2.5k more pa

Accuracy does not effect miss. Also, I've tanked before using an axe and the miss rate in my opinion is quite horrendous and I'd never use one. My rotation is generally threaten wws tsb then ad or a few holy strikes first. I never seem to have much of a problem even against wardens. But, somehow 1 warden always has way more aggro than with 2 in party even aggro capped when alone. I've always wondered if somehow the x5 mod gets reduced by "overbuffing" minus aggro. One warden I can almost never tank against while at least 2 isn't that bad.

Edit: the axe weap lvl was also maxed

Quoted from "Trogdor6996"

Also, I've tanked before using an axe and the miss rate in my opinion is quite horrendous and I'd never use one

ty, I shall not use 1h axe. I'll have to consider making some chain items then to up my crit. Even with 4.1k crit rate on bosses ubuffed, if I don't crit Truth Shield bash, life is hard.

Quoted from "Trogdor6996"

I've always wondered if somehow the x5 mod gets reduced by "overbuffing" minus aggro

This I shall look into.

EDIT: no change after overbuffing.

Ah, must be due to ch/p -30% aggro lasting 10s compared to feral leader 30s. Might be gone by the time the hard hitting stuff goes off.

fyi two wardens in same party should cancel out feral on eachother or so i thought. idr

The aggro reduction ad the damage incrase have different buff names/id's. They can be on a single player at the same time. So 2 wd/w give each other the -50% aggro while maintaining their damage output. But beast chop/pulse mastery still generate a lot of aggro. Maybe my issue the other night was solely due to him relying on c/p short duration rather than using tranq.

thats what i meant sorry i wasnt meaning to take away the damage aspect sorry.

But yes half the time i end up tanking the boss as wd/w if im only one... usually if theres two or more im ok..

Kingnothing the originator of this post, he stats like almost all sta pa, im not sure how else, but he always able to hold my aggro better than most knight tanks ive run with.. but alas he is another player who quit recently...

Dirty tier knight falcon boots

Quoted from "SaitoHajime"

Also, this too is additive not multiplicative

This. It means that during burn, with threaten, those boots only add ~3% aggro. Sure it helps, but I think patk statted chain boots would be better. Thanks for suggestion. I moved some old dps gear to my k/w, now I have 6 dps items, 75k patk unbuff with pdmg pants. Going to see if that works, and consider statting differently (more stam/pa) if it does indeed work out.

If you are using asbw to remove the feral leader -aggro buff
and the wd/w is using asbw to remove the pulse mastery +10% aggro buff

Then you could try 1 or more of the following things:

Rotation:
Quick Reflexes, Holy Power Explosion, Shield of Valor, Holy Strength, Charge, Punishment, Holy Seal, Threaten, Authoritative Deterrence, Whirlwind Shield, Truth Shield Bash, (Normal rotation: Holy Strike, Threaten, Whirlwind Shield rotation), every time when Holy Seal is up use it after Threaten, followed by Punishment and then continue normal rotation.

Weapon:
Crafted lvl95 T12 +20 1h sword

Shield:
Dont stat it, make it T11 +20

Equipment:
Damage on gear/sets
And enough crit is important

As really really REALLY last resort (but i dont think its needed) i would say:
Stat/gear so your PAtt is more then 20% of the boss PDef during burn (is that more then 120PAtt atm?) but if you have less than that 20%, you wasted all those patt because you've could have 0 patt and probably generate more aggro.
This normally works very well with chain gear str/patt & sta/patt statted until Shield of Discipline runs out


Other usual stuff for the dps like k/p Holy Protection, tranq powder, ch/p Salvation Engraving, recons, etc etc.

Quoted from "ShaWalker"

Dont stat it, make it T11 +20

This is an interesting idea, but do you have actual numerical data to support this being superior? I quickly tested a few days ago, an untiered shield vs t8 +16 od shield (difference of 16k pdef on the shield), and truth shield bash and whirlwind shield didn't really increase by any substantial amount. My shield is already tier 9 statted so I'm not changing it, but I'm curious to see someone actually try a dirty tiered shield.

I'm currently convinced that my issues were three fold: Not enough crit (even with 4.1k , not critting truth shield bash is a difference of like 5m aggro), a single wd/w not using tranq (he gets -90 aggro for a very short duration b/c of c/p), and a minor issue with rotation , which I have fixed.

Is the crafted 95 sword even worth using? It was only a mere 10% dps increase over my pillars sword....Doesn't quite seem like enough to make a new +20 item.

Last I saw the math, annelia's right hand was still the best shield for aggro, with both damage and the %aggro on every skill doing notably more than the "+0.x defense value as damage" of a higher level shield.

Aoth, hoe, or crit accessories?

Time to break out two parts of the red thunder set? +10% aggro!

Do you tank using diyce Rovie?

I do not.