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Sadly, no. You would not be invited to one of our endgame runs. We would bring an alt that could buff us instead (wl/m m/wl ch/p wd/s k/p etc).

If you don't care about endgame, then by all means enjoy the battlemonk and gear it. If getting the best gear to run the hardest instances is your goal, then battlemonk will not achieve this for you.

what class is a battlemonk or monk?

I can start with the basics and say that p/w does not have the ability to wear chain like its elven counterpart, druid/warrior.

This means that the gear that a p/w can wear that is good is very limited. You need crit and patk on most pieces. Most physical cloth gears do not meet this criteria.

Also depends how loosely you define endgame... The top of the line instances, unfortunately taking in a class like P/W who couldn't carry their weight (not cause of skill, just cause of class choice) would make the run MUCH more difficult to pull off, as every spot in that 12 man run should be assisting the party's success. However there are also instances that are a couple caps old, but still can be challenging and good gear. Like Grotto and maybe even Pillars of Morfan. Instances like this You should be able to get into, as long as you do have some epic gear to back you up, with a good party.

However, now you must ask yourself.. Is the cost of making that gear, which btw is only useful on P/W so not like you can sell the gear easily afterwards, or transfer it to a different toon/class. But is the cost of making that epic gear worth it to you to never reach full endgame content, the top of the top instances and such? It can be a fun class yes, and you can probably have a lot of fun with it in the hardmode instances like Grotto ect. But you will be stuck at the level, never able to progress any further, stuck by your choice of class.

It is very unfortunate though as it's a super fun class to play around on...

If you choose to re-roll, you mentioned there was only a couple of endgaame viable options, but there is quite a few actually (meaning more then 3 ^.^) being; Warrior/Warden, Warden/Warrior, Mage/Warrior, Warrior/Mage, Champion/Rogue, Rogue/Mage, Knight/Warrior... As for healers, a group usually choses its healer based on the party's dps, for example, in a mostly magic dps party, healers chosen would be; Priest/Scout, Priest/Rogue, Druid/Warden... As for a physical dps party the most wanted healer is a Druid/Warrior. Druids are most popular as they can reduce the bosses pdef/mdef quite a bit. However near all of the healers are viable for endgame healing, it's just the buffs/debuffs they can bring with them that put those ones over the top.

Hope you can piece together the correct decision for yourself

Edit: Forgot to mention buffing/debuffing classes that are also played in endgame instances, expanding the list of used classes you could consider; Champion/Priest, Mage/Warlock, Warlock/Mage, Warden/Scout... and in some cases Knight/Priest, Druid/Rogue

Honestly, like scouts the battlemonk wouldn't be invited to "endgame" runs because it cant hold its own dps, it sucks, which Is why I heal my mage cant do top endgame dps as it's too costly or time consuming.

If it's any consilation though, BM's are really good in seige hit like trucks. We had one on Palenque back at 82 cap I think he may have quit. Name was Amazin he could buff I think to 3-400k hp and hit people for 2-300k.

The problem with battlemonk in PvP now-a-days is if you want to be tanky, honor gear is the way to go, however cloth honor gear for a battle monk will give it intel rather the strength and/or patk it could rather use (not that you get much from the chain honor set either but JSING)

I would always run with a Monk even in Instances

But on the more serious side: It all depends on your guild wether or not they'll save a spot for your Monk. But unfortunatly, nowadays the majority of (end-game) guilds only save spots for the heaviest hitting combo's.

Because I'll not top the dps-charts, I've changed my gear (but not my statting!), so instead of mem-cloth-gear with melee non-stats, I'm using healer-gear, statted with melee-stats (even threw in a cpl of wis/patt stats). this way I can heal while outside instances I can dps. Imo the monk isn't a full blown pdd'er, but rather the physical counterpart of a p/m.

Lets face it BM is a quizotic choice. However it issssss so fun?

Has any1 else played around with gear changing macros? for example mage gear for rt and col and healer gear of course for healing.

Drop the P/W and stick to the criteria of what is endgame. If you want to always be viable and never fear that Runewaker will nerf your class where it drops off completely, go rogue or warrior. Both of those classes have very strong combos for both PVP and PVE. If your current class combo gets a nerf there is always another combo in the same range, or very close to the DPS would be doing w/o a nerf.

Of course if P/W is your passion and you want to see it through, I wish you luck. Haven't seen it done before but hey, crazier things have happened.

Bleeding brought up a great point where you'd be extremely limited to gear options. I seriously doubt a P/W will reach the PA/DMG endgame instances, like CoEHM/HoE/HoW, will require you to have.

Quoted from "Soulcalibur"

Drop the P/W and stick to the criteria of what is endgame. If you want to always be viable and never fear that Runewaker will nerf your class where it drops off completely, go rogue or warrior. Both of those classes have very strong combos for both PVP and PVE. If your current class combo gets a nerf there is always another combo in the same range, or very close to the DPS would be doing w/o a nerf.

Of course if P/W is your passion and you want to see it through, I wish you luck. Haven't seen it done before but hey, crazier things have happened.

Bleeding brought up a great point where you'd be extremely limited to gear options. I seriously doubt a P/W will reach the PA/DMG endgame instances, like CoEHM/HoE/HoW, will require you to have.

Soulcalibur,

Have you ever considered that there are people who do NOT care about being the #1 on the dps/tank/heal charts, but just play this game for the fun of it?

I, myself, don't really care that I'm unable to run the latest instances. Luckily I have a Priest/Warrior combo so I don't need to be afraid of getting it nerved in the future

Quoted from "Undrentide"

Quoted from "Soulcalibur"

Drop the P/W and stick to the criteria of what is endgame. If you want to always be viable and never fear that Runewaker will nerf your class where it drops off completely, go rogue or warrior. Both of those classes have very strong combos for both PVP and PVE. If your current class combo gets a nerf there is always another combo in the same range, or very close to the DPS would be doing w/o a nerf.

Of course if P/W is your passion and you want to see it through, I wish you luck. Haven't seen it done before but hey, crazier things have happened.

Bleeding brought up a great point where you'd be extremely limited to gear options. I seriously doubt a P/W will reach the PA/DMG endgame instances, like CoEHM/HoE/HoW, will require you to have.

Soulcalibur,

Have you ever considered that there are people who do NOT care about being the #1 on the dps/tank/heal charts, but just play this game for the fun of it?

I, myself, don't really care that I'm unable to run the latest instances. Luckily I have a Priest/Warrior combo so I don't need to be afraid of getting it nerved in the future

Yes I do, which is why I said "Of course if P/W is your passion and you want to see it through, I wish you luck."

but of course, I'm always the bad guy.

Here we go again, and another reason this game is so broken in terms of balancing. I know some people will say that the game is balanced now better than it has ever been, because we have 6 classes to choose combos from,but I disagree with that. Once you get 3 toons to level 90, getting the other 3 there is so hard and unless you want to use exploits like TOSH to level them, or spend a fortune on resets, it is time consuming to the extreme!! I have said this many times before and I will say it again , people should be able to join Runes of Magic and pick classes that they really like to play without fear of being snubbed for instances. Every class should be able to run EndGame, whether it be for DPS, Heals, or just for buffing. It should not be you have to pick Rogue or Warrior to be safe.

People spend lots of money on their toons on this game, me included, to make a toon that they love to play, and it should NOT be that once you get to most recent Instances, your toon is no longer viable and will not be considered for running with the MIGHTY OP Classes. To me this is just so wrong. I love my M/S, but I had to switch to W/M just to get that self saticfaction of doing good DPS in instances. I will NOT stat another class it is wayyy to expensive, I will continue to stat my mage and hopefully remain decent DPS with one of my other secondary classes that will allow me to use my cloth mage statted gear!!

I hate that Scout is soooo broken, a lot of my friends played Scout back when they were OP, some of them switched to Rogue after the nerf, others quit, and logged in once in a while to see it they were fixed, then they eventually just quit logging in. Sad, because I bet a lot of them would still be playing if they did not nerf Scout to Oblivian

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Be that as it may Jada28, it sadly just doesn't work that way. I would love to be back to tanking K/S since it was easier for pulling and multiple mob pulls, but to be in the endgame instances its buff up, debuff boss, and burn or die.

I mean don't get me wrong, I agree 100%. Just doesn't work that way, because Runewaker doesn't care much about this game anymore. Obviously.

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