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Tuesday, August 25th 2015, 9:02am

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This topic is discussion on how we as a server can bring W/M back bcuz after Beth weve been lacking we didnt get nerfed so i was wondering what we could do to bring us back can we got all crit or all mdam what combo of gear and wep would be best staff or wand and tali any suggestions let me know because K/M shouldnt be more op than W/M we must be doing something wrong.

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Tuesday, August 25th 2015, 10:09am

Guess I am a little confused what is wrong with warrior/mage? They are still an amazing class when you build party for magical dps. They are the dps class with the lowest learning curve in the game, one of the highest post burn dps potential, and 90% of all mdef debuffs in the game have no cooldown. If you are talking pvp they are a really good class there as well. Insanely high pdef and mdef when stacking burn weapon and ability to 1 shot people through full pvp gear.
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Tuesday, August 25th 2015, 10:36am

Just use m/wl, wl/m and d/m in party and you will see that w/m is one of the top damage dealers in this game... specially in high level instances where other classes can't overpass boss defences and in long fights. If you talk about Grotto is normal that some classes do more dps, because fights are very short and w/m burning is not the best.

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Tuesday, August 25th 2015, 1:08pm


This topic is discussion on how we as a server can bring W/M back bcuz after Beth weve been lacking we didnt get nerfed so i was wondering what we could do to bring us back can we got all crit or all mdam what combo of gear and wep would be best staff or wand and tali any suggestions let me know because K/M shouldnt be more op than W/M we must be doing something wrong.
Wand/Offhand is best for both PvP and PvE imo. If it's PvE it depends on how long fights last. I believe, K/M's best DPS is like in fights below 15s in length (where none of their %LightDMG buffs have run out). Bear in mind fight lengths depend on raid composition and DPS strength. In prolonged fights is where W/M truly shines. I went W/M for fun CoE HM 1st strat farm with pretty weak raid composition and I was doing like x4-5 everyone else's damage.

If you talking about K/M being more OP in PvP, they hit way harder for those same 14s per hit but I feel the DPS full cooldowns is pretty close. K/M's are just more resilient more often than not. W/M has to wait for HP to drop considerably to pop the best defensive skills, which most W/M's I see in SW don't even get to use cuz they run around with 70k HP lol.

Honestly, I usually eat K/M's for breakfast 1v1 on my W/M in siege. Whether this is because W/M is better, they play bad, or I get lucky... w/e tbh idk.

I feel like W/M has more in its arsenal anyways. Problem is most people think it's only about charging in and white attacking. That's noob. Just learn to look for a better opportunity to run in.
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Tuesday, August 25th 2015, 3:17pm

Guess I am a little confused what is wrong with warrior/mage? They are still an amazing class when you build party for magical dps. They are the dps class with the lowest learning curve in the game, one of the highest post burn dps potential, and 90% of all mdef debuffs in the game have no cooldown. If you are talking pvp they are a really good class there as well. Insanely high pdef and mdef when stacking burn weapon and ability to 1 shot people through full pvp gear.
I know in pop we are really good and I can easily kill anyone one p be gear but in pop gear it's much harder and I was referring to pee and in burn I can't keep up I don't know if it's because I do pomme with instance gear instead of using full instance gear with pillars gear but I can't do in burn like I used to also what does d/m do ?

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Tuesday, August 25th 2015, 3:36pm

Might wanna check some of those PvP PvE spellings there xD

W/m in PvE is fine. In my guild we focus on magic DPS, and we've had people hitting 6kk+ flame attacks each hit, include a 4-5kk thunder attack and that's over 10kk per white hit. W/m is also still the best sustained dps, by far the strongest dps at 5th boss crypt. Imo leave w/m as it is. Also, he meant m/d, not d/m. Which reduces boss mdef by 35%. with a s/r m/d and m/wl even an average geared w/m can break the bosses mdef.
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Tuesday, August 25th 2015, 4:29pm

well i havent tried party with m/d but i even tried pillar and i cant out dps everybody like i used to in beth days also in burns i used to be best and what skills do s/r and m/d use that help makes us op im pretty well geared w/m i have 80%crit 150kma and 13kmdam unbuffed i dont have aoth or annelia toy tho i use instance chest with pom gear with wand and tali and i cant out dps m/w i burn gear or r/m and etc like i used to in beth but will try those ty and when you say kk is that in millions ?

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Tuesday, August 25th 2015, 4:44pm


This topic is discussion on how we as a server can bring W/M back bcuz after Beth weve been lacking we didnt get nerfed so i was wondering what we could do to bring us back can we got all crit or all mdam what combo of gear and wep would be best staff or wand and tali any suggestions let me know because K/M shouldnt be more op than W/M we must be doing something wrong.
Wand/Offhand is best for both PvP and PvE imo. If it's PvE it depends on how long fights last. I believe, K/M's best DPS is like in fights below 15s in length (where none of their %LightDMG buffs have run out). Bear in mind fight lengths depend on raid composition and DPS strength. In prolonged fights is where W/M truly shines. I went W/M for fun CoE HM 1st strat farm with pretty weak raid composition and I was doing like x4-5 everyone else's damage.

If you talking about K/M being more OP in PvP, they hit way harder for those same 14s per hit but I feel the DPS full cooldowns is pretty close. K/M's are just more resilient more often than not. W/M has to wait for HP to drop considerably to pop the best defensive skills, which most W/M's I see in SW don't even get to use cuz they run around with 70k HP lol.

Honestly, I usually eat K/M's for breakfast 1v1 on my W/M in siege. Whether this is because W/M is better, they play bad, or I get lucky... w/e tbh idk.

I feel like W/M has more in its arsenal anyways. Problem is most people think it's only about charging in and white attacking. That's noob. Just learn to look for a better opportunity to run in.

I know W/m is good in pve its just that in pvp gear I suck have to wear pve gear to own everyone in back in the day when it was only beth I used to be top dps in that 15 secs of burn now that ive run grotto im getting outdpsed by ppl I used to own in dps and I have 80% crit 150ma unbuffed and 13kmdm I don't got ibw but I feel like I should be doing more dps in burns I know we are best in long fights but I used to be best in both m/w shouldn't be outing me or r/m or wrd/w lol I also use wand and tali but I don't got annelia toy I got coe wand tho and I got instance gear with pom gear I don't use pillar gear or set bcuz too much lost of crit

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Tuesday, August 25th 2015, 5:17pm



should give you some idea of w/m in endgame with a magic party , though this was a while ago, burns have only really got better and this was before alot of the w/m in our guild regeared.

In grotto w/m is far from the best now, issue is that the defence there is so low, with wl/m and a m/wl most classes can break the bosses defence, makes a class like w/m(which gets the 66% matt boost) preety useless. Go pom/hoe/crypt and if the fights are longer, you will outdps any r/m and wd/w out of burn. Last boss HoE a w/m will completely destroy any other class(had over 100kk dmg there before when 2nd dps had 30-35 or so, he was r/m i think) and yes kk = million.
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Tuesday, August 25th 2015, 5:53pm


This topic is discussion on how we as a server can bring W/M back bcuz after Beth weve been lacking we didnt get nerfed so i was wondering what we could do to bring us back can we got all crit or all mdam what combo of gear and wep would be best staff or wand and tali any suggestions let me know because K/M shouldnt be more op than W/M we must be doing something wrong.
Wand/Offhand is best for both PvP and PvE imo. If it's PvE it depends on how long fights last. I believe, K/M's best DPS is like in fights below 15s in length (where none of their %LightDMG buffs have run out). Bear in mind fight lengths depend on raid composition and DPS strength. In prolonged fights is where W/M truly shines. I went W/M for fun CoE HM 1st strat farm with pretty weak raid composition and I was doing like x4-5 everyone else's damage.

If you talking about K/M being more OP in PvP, they hit way harder for those same 14s per hit but I feel the DPS full cooldowns is pretty close. K/M's are just more resilient more often than not. W/M has to wait for HP to drop considerably to pop the best defensive skills, which most W/M's I see in SW don't even get to use cuz they run around with 70k HP lol.

Honestly, I usually eat K/M's for breakfast 1v1 on my W/M in siege. Whether this is because W/M is better, they play bad, or I get lucky... w/e tbh idk.

I feel like W/M has more in its arsenal anyways. Problem is most people think it's only about charging in and white attacking. That's noob. Just learn to look for a better opportunity to run in.
Might wanna check some of those PvP PvE spellings there xD
W/m in PvE is fine. In my guild we focus on magic DPS, and we've had people hitting 6kk+ flame attacks each hit, include a 4-5kk thunder attack and that's over 10kk per white hit. W/m is also still the best sustained dps, by far the strongest dps at 5th boss crypt. Imo leave w/m as it is. Also, he meant m/d, not d/m. Which reduces boss mdef by 35%. with a s/r m/d and m/wl even an average geared w/m can break the bosses mdef.
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Guess I am a little confused what is wrong with warrior/mage? They are still an amazing class when you build party for magical dps. They are the dps class with the lowest learning curve in the game, one of the highest post burn dps potential, and 90% of all mdef debuffs in the game have no cooldown. If you are talking pvp they are a really good class there as well. Insanely high pdef and mdef when stacking burn weapon and ability to 1 shot people through full pvp gear.
I know in pop we are really good and I can easily kill anyone one p be gear but in pop gear it's much harder and I was referring to pee and in burn I can't keep up I don't know if it's because I do pomme with instance gear instead of using full instance gear with pillars gear but I can't do in burn like I used to also what does d/m do ?
Might wanna check some of those PvP PvE spellings there xD
W/m in PvE is fine. In my guild we focus on magic DPS, and we've had people hitting 6kk+ flame attacks each hit, include a 4-5kk thunder attack and that's over 10kk per white hit. W/m is also still the best sustained dps, by far the strongest dps at 5th boss crypt. Imo leave w/m as it is. Also, he meant m/d, not d/m. Which reduces boss mdef by 35%. with a s/r m/d and m/wl even an average geared w/m can break the bosses mdef.
Might wanna check some of those PvP PvE spellings there xD

W/m in PvE is fine. In my guild we focus on magic DPS, and we've had people hitting 6kk+ flame attacks each hit, include a 4-5kk thunder attack and that's over 10kk per white hit. W/m is also still the best sustained dps, by far the strongest dps at 5th boss crypt. Imo leave w/m as it is. Also, he meant m/d, not d/m. Which reduces boss mdef by 35%. with a s/r m/d and m/wl even an average geared w/m can break the bosses mdef.


should give you some idea of w/m in endgame with a magic party , though this was a while ago, burns have only really got better and this was before alot of the w/m in our guild regeared.

In grotto w/m is far from the best now, issue is that the defence there is so low, with wl/m and a m/wl most classes can break the bosses defence, makes a class like w/m(which gets the 66% matt boost) preety useless. Go pom/hoe/crypt and if the fights are longer, you will outdps any r/m and wd/w out of burn. Last boss HoE a w/m will completely destroy any other class(had over 100kk dmg there before when 2nd dps had 30-35 or so, he was r/m i think) and yes kk = million.
Nice how is your gear set up do you hae instance chest like me with all proof gear and crit accessories or do you do full instance gear with full pillar set with aoth ?

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Tuesday, August 25th 2015, 6:38pm

grotto, pillars, and hoe sets. tier 12 +20 wand from crypt, 177k matt unbuffed as w/m.
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Tuesday, August 25th 2015, 6:42pm

grotto, pillars, and hoe sets. tier 12 +20 wand from crypt, 177k matt unbuffed as w/m.
whats your magic crit % mines is 80 and my mdam is 13k wbu ? i to have t12 crpyt wand +19 but i dont hae the toy what about you and do you use aoth with pillar set ? and why have grotto set if you have hoe set ? and damn im wondering how you got 30kma more ma than me when im well geared even if i complete my gearing will only have 160kma unbuffed with 81% crit and like 13.2k mdam

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Tuesday, August 25th 2015, 6:47pm

sitting around 13.8k mdmg i think, hoe set is accessories not upper set, crit is about 77% or so.
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Tuesday, August 25th 2015, 7:04pm

sitting around 13.8k mdmg i think, hoe set is accessories not upper set, crit is about 77% or so.
word you right im bugging you op the hoe gives crit and nice ma so balances crit loss from pillars think i will get pillars set to do you use ma tali or dmg tali and are you the best w/m on server or is their someone better than you with diff gear

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Tuesday, August 25th 2015, 9:42pm

matt talisman, wont use LD annelia toy, so i aggregated it for look xD



w/m w/wd s/w w/m wl k/p, no m/d. Running with s/r also.

Mytho has easy mode dmg pants, crafted belt/gloves, grotto/hoe set. So different gearing to me. All except zaph has ibw.
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Tuesday, August 25th 2015, 10:36pm

Pretty sure that fire dmg tali > annelia offhand
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Tuesday, August 25th 2015, 10:38pm

Pretty sure that fire dmg tali > annelia offhand
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Wednesday, August 26th 2015, 3:55am

matt talisman, wont use LD annelia toy, so i aggregated it for look xD



w/m w/wd s/w w/m wl k/p, no m/d. Running with s/r also.

Mytho has easy mode dmg pants, crafted belt/gloves, grotto/hoe set. So different gearing to me. All except zaph has ibw.
word i dont have ibw so im screwed and i think i messed up on getting it and lmao you agged it you can afford to have 3 ud at most

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Wednesday, August 26th 2015, 4:05am

Pretty sure that fire dmg tali > annelia offhand
is fire dmg tali really that op ?

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Wednesday, August 26th 2015, 4:25am

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if you run with m/d everytime, imo fire talisman > matt one


word i dont have ibw so im screwed and i think i messed up on getting it and lmao you agged it you can afford to have 3 ud at most

i have 1 UD only, my hoe ring :P
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