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Sunday, October 4th 2015, 7:09pm

Debuffs classes & Classes

What are good debuffs classes to must have for runs and classes as Rom as a community needs ? Mostly for Reni and Artemis since we're merging soon

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Sunday, October 4th 2015, 7:28pm

Mage/Warlock
Warlock/Mage
Those are the two biggest buff/debuffers
Reni
Mithras
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Sunday, October 4th 2015, 7:46pm

Depends on group composition and availability of real players (that don't suck.)

m/wl
wl/m
c/p
k/p

prob top 4 alts that i see on runs

then there are playable classes that also benefit party

s/r
s/wd
s/w
wd/s

etcetcetc

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Sunday, October 4th 2015, 8:10pm

word prob did but didnt see it and im thinking of making some buffing and debuffing alts for my w/m and potential pa party probably

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Sunday, October 4th 2015, 9:00pm

Universal buffers for both mage and patk partys would be-

m/wl
wl/m
ch/p
wd/s
k/p
s/r
d/r

Mage party alts-

m/d
p/r
m/p
p/s
d/wd

Patk party alts-

s/wd
s/w
d/w
ch/m
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Sunday, October 4th 2015, 11:00pm

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Universal buffers for both mage and patk partys would be-

m/wl
wl/m
ch/p
wd/s
k/p
s/r
d/r

Mage party alts-

m/d
p/r
m/p
p/s
d/wd

Patk party alts-

s/wd
s/w
d/w
ch/m
alright thanks and is d/r really worth it for 145 crit ?

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Sunday, October 4th 2015, 11:21pm

I think d/r big one is the crit resistance debuff, which I think is pretty high at higher levels
1550 at 75

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Sunday, October 4th 2015, 11:31pm

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I think d/r big one is the crit resistance debuff, which I think is pretty high at higher levels
1550 at 75
word just checked so would be pretty good

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Monday, October 5th 2015, 12:24am

afaik the debuff from d/r is really pointless, but cant confirm.
99/99/99/99/99/99 W/WD/S/D/R/M

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Monday, October 5th 2015, 12:34am

its quite good actually.

seeds, crit debuff (works on bosses with 0 crit resist even), and for longer fights speed catalysis after strong stim/asw + body vital.

it's a class that some groups could have their healer go as if they need a extra push, very noticeable in hoe and the newer instances.
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Monday, October 5th 2015, 12:53am

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its quite good actually.

seeds, crit debuff (works on bosses with 0 crit resist even), and for longer fights speed catalysis after strong stim/asw + body vital.

it's a class that some groups could have their healer go as if they need a extra push, very noticeable in hoe and the newer instances.
body vital? and i heard it only stacks with frenzy potion and arcane

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Monday, October 5th 2015, 12:56am

which is why it would only be used in long fights, after 20-30 seconds macro swap to dps group, use speed cata, swap back into ur spot, and than body vital someone in gr2, tank perhaps. This is just secondary to the great crit debuff it applies.
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Monday, October 5th 2015, 1:08am

D/R is indeed, crazy good. Combine that with a wl/m who uses saces cracking embrace? And you get like well over 2k crit reduced. And chances are you are already using a wl/m.

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Monday, October 5th 2015, 3:15am

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afaik the debuff from d/r is really pointless, but cant confirm.
why you say that ?

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Monday, October 5th 2015, 3:44am

well last time i ran with a d/r none even noticed any difference in crit rate, tested in pom/hoe/world bosses etc. If it was a choice between d/r or d/wd i would take the d/wd everytime. Probably doesnt hurt to have it in parties, but i wouldnt say amazing. Just my opinion anyway.
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Monday, October 5th 2015, 3:59am

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which is why it would only be used in long fights, after 20-30 seconds macro swap to dps group, use speed cata, swap back into ur spot, and than body vital someone in gr2, tank perhaps. This is just secondary to the great crit debuff it applies.
what is body vital ? and why cant i use it with frenzy pot making it 35% instead of 30% with strong stim where i can use strong stim later and does it need to be lvled to use the skill ?

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Monday, October 5th 2015, 5:02am

No because Body vitalization does not stack with Frenzy Potion. However a max level body vitalization gives more atk speed than a strong stim, just for a shorter duration.
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Monday, October 5th 2015, 5:12am

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well last time i ran with a d/r none even noticed any difference in crit rate, tested in pom/hoe/world bosses etc. If it was a choice between d/r or d/wd i would take the d/wd everytime. Probably doesnt hurt to have it in parties, but i wouldnt say amazing. Just my opinion anyway.

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No because Body vitalization does not stack with Frenzy Potion. However a max level body vitalization gives more atk speed than a strong stim, just for a shorter duration.
i mean speed cata and frenzy and do i need to have my d/r a high lvl to use crit resist ?

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