Runes of Magic US / AU

Quoted from "Magío"

If the boss is not dead in 20 seconds it means the others didn't do their part. M/Wd would still do their same 60m+ dmg on the first 6 seconds. Everyone else will just catch up. Unless it's like 5th CoE, GUESS WHAT, THAT'S WHERE W/M IS OP *GASP*

It depends on the party. M/D was a highly kept secret by Astral not long ago. They'd blur out the debuffs on bosses xD

So there's 4 viable Mages primaries, with Wl/M, K/M, W/M being other viable magic classes.

I would really like to see a D/R DPS in one of Astral's parties. M/D and the works. Make it happen guys.

I was told to keep it a secret , although thinking about, it was pointless cause Insomnia only have physical dpsers with 1 w/m.

5th boss nuke record, 20% till freeze/flame ray. It's nice to see everyone doing equal damage, not one guy is doing everyone elses damage combined.

Cenre was thinking about getting druid up and trying to dps as d/r in crypt, but he realized that his rogue is level 10

Quoted from "mohammed1234"

Quoted from "sertet"

K/m would be terrifying with that type of buff lasting 40 seconds
Every mage would benefit from that immensely.
W/m would be slightly better for about 10 hits.

Not many people would be rerolling to mage over their existing class. All of your posts are about buffing your w/m class. Almost every person on the forum is telling you there is nothing wrong with the class, nor does it need a buff. It is a sustained dps class with lots of other utility. Don't like it? then change your class. Don't go around suggesting changes to abilities for classes you won't even acknowledge as feasible.

Lots of classes get big reductions to skills, or did we all forget that rogues lost a good chunk of throw/combo throw damage? W/m is not unique in that regard

You speak as if i am a noob and idk what i am talking about i assure you i do it it yall who are jumping the gun and are not listening any mage class in general has to stat all int/ma with all int or ma related runes plus 20 the gear and t12 their wep and t8 and 9 their amor and they still cant put out as much dps as they should with a ma party and even with an ma party alot of mage classes are lacking not even can gear up that nicely to do an good amount in ma party and they shouldnt have to have a ma party to do good dps

I spoke in general terms in case other people may or may not know, classes get nerfs all the time, this 25% reduction for your w/m was met with almost no kickback, same with the roge throw/combo throw reduction. People knew it does a lot of damage and the nerf wasn't that horrible given that most of us here may have been around for the scout nerf of chapter 4. Things like:

• Archer’s Glory (Set Skill): Effect now lasts only 20 seconds and attack speed is raised by 10% not 20%.
  Serenity: This skill has been removed from the game.
  Shot: Damage caused has been reduced from 352.1% to 141.6%.
  Wind Arrow: Damage caused has been reduced from 330.4% to 165.2%.
  

Point is that the "nerf" that w/m got was seen as acceptable and not at all a detriment to the class.

Now you are arguing to boost the entirety of the mage primary classes (and by subset the classes with mage secondaries) to cope for this by saying magic classes require magic centric buffs to perform like melee centric classes.

You say mages need t8 pure int/ma statted gear to perform with t12 weapons. Have you looked at any r/m or wd/w lately? they are t8 pure str/pa or dex/pa with t12 weapons.

And your logic is that you shouldnt need a magic buff based party to be good as a magic player. You've literally gone and said "I want my class to be better just because, not because of the effort of a party".

You've literally been shown time and time again that there is nothing holding back a magic based party other than the players. Players that show you a Mage is the top DPS in the latest available (non-broken) content without even using the full gamut of magic buffs/debuffs available and you still want them buffed further because the class you choose to play doesn't work how you want it to.

Quoted from "TWMXC"

hes pretty relentless

reminds me of the rogue vs k/m thread

reminds me of r/p.

Quoted from "Cike"

Quoted from "TWMXC"

hes pretty relentless

reminds me of the rogue vs k/m thread

reminds me of r/p.

good call

Quoted from "mohammed1234"

Quoted from "TWMXC"

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Quoted from "TWMXC"



WK your dps would probably look fine/"op" in a coordinated endgame group.
It does but it's hard to get that kind of party together and peeps miss out on runs because of it

So you want god dps without putting in the wwork to earn it.

Nothing else to see here besides wah wah gimme more

Hop off the bandwagon and have your own ideology how is it right making a whole party around a class to make it viable even with all the top gear ? so go preach to someone else

You mean do exactly what melee classes are doing? Because I'm sure each of those classes aren't doing the entire instance independently without any buffs from other classes

plvl an alt forum account and buff alt your argument

your forum dps lacking bad

Quoted from "mohammed1234"

This is to all the people with no positivie input hop off the bandwagon its not cool to be a follower i know yall mommas thought yall better than that and yall must be out yall mind if yall think stating all int/ma and tiering up like that is cool bcuz there will come a time when the aoe is above the life you have and what than you restat and than you find out oh my dps sucks let me do party around my dps oh still not good welp warrior king was right now lets qq about fixing classes and it will be too late since yall knocked my idea

don't confuse people maintaining that w/m can hold it's own as a dps with acceptance that the p2w glass cannon meta is good game/instance design.

two completely different issues.

Quoted from "Magío"

I would really like to see a D/R DPS in one of Astral's parties. M/D and the works. Make it happen guys.

I would really like to see it in one of our parties (with the right stuff)... which is what i've been wanting since I leveled the d/r and made a offhand D:

Help me... help you ;D

D/R is a magical dps / support class yes. Worth looking into for the new hardmode crit resist bosses coming out.

As for intensification, you seem caught on the fact that you need to build a party around a mage to do good, when that simply isn't true. That is all anyone here is trying to say, so why buff something more when it already does fine/great dps in any party, and with the right party unquestionably the current top dps, there is just no need or logical thought to it.

nah man youre missing the point

he wants god dps without all the right party members buff alts or gear or stats

buff flame to = max buffed elemental rampage

then mage is fixed

Crypt HM 1-2 scruts, we had m/wl, wl/m, m/d, s/r and ch/p(1st boss only).
M/WD doing just fine in crypt and my poor k/m isn't equipped for that fast fights, 100-90-80-70-20-0


Don't know what this screen should show, but felt like posting, with good gear and debuffers, any combo will do pro, even I if i could just crit bit more...

Quoted from "Mythomage"

Crypt HM 1-2 scruts, we had m/wl, wl/m, m/d, s/r and ch/p(1st boss only).
M/WD doing just fine in crypt and my poor k/m isn't equipped for that fast fights, 100-90-80-70-20-0


Don't know what this screen should show, but felt like posting, with good gear and debuffers, any combo will do pro, even I if i could just crit bit more...

proof that rogue needs buff

rogue dps so low cant even see it in the scruti

was gonna max my druid to try d/r, but as mytho said, i reset my rogue to level 1 for titles(silly me didnt pick up elites before hand -.-) Will try level up rogue and get some runs going on it. i noticed mytho didnt link screen of boss 4 where i was top damage