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Tuesday, December 15th 2015, 1:07am

is there a diff between mage/warrior and warrior/mage

So i am looking at elite skills online to see what i want to do for a new toon and i was thinking of warrior/mage but the website i found displays elites only for mage/warrior . is there a interactive site where i can pick a primary and a secondary and see what the elites are going to be?

Im trying to make a battle mage that can possibly heal myself. But if not at least a warrior mage would be cool. Be a warrior that can cast fireball. booya

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Tuesday, December 15th 2015, 2:03am

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So i am looking at elite skills online to see what i want to do for a new toon and i was thinking of warrior/mage but the website i found displays elites only for mage/warrior . is there a interactive site where i can pick a primary and a secondary and see what the elites are going to be?

Im trying to make a battle mage that can possibly heal myself. But if not at least a warrior mage would be cool. Be a warrior that can cast fireball. booya

thanks

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=warrior+mage+elite+skills

Both W/M and M/W are magic DPS but W/M is primarily white hit based (close up) and M/W is flame based. Both are VERY effective DPS with M/W beating out W/M only with a second set of buff gear. W/M, if properly played, is devastating in SW.
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Tuesday, December 15th 2015, 2:07am

dang. i like that. I was able to find some info on elites and i finally figured out what the other site was doing so i was able to find what i needed. Now its time to figure out if i want to be M/W or W/M haha

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Tuesday, December 15th 2015, 2:23am

The gearing is similar but the combos are totally different playstyles. W/M is magical melee M/W is ranged.


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Tuesday, December 15th 2015, 5:17am

From the sounds of your other thread, it seems you will do much better as w/m. It offers more suitability and sustained damage, where as m/w is super squishy and huge burst damage, but nothing much going for it after those 15 seconds. Both do fine just for questing.
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Tuesday, December 15th 2015, 6:07pm

my goal is to wield big sward, wear heavy armour, all whilst casting a fireball or some sort of magic:)

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Tuesday, December 15th 2015, 6:27pm

I think you want to be a Knight/Mage then
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Tuesday, December 15th 2015, 6:59pm

really? not a warrior mage? Why is that:)

I know knights get plate but warriors get two handed axes haha. Ill have to look at knight skills vs warrior and see who deals more damage

do i have to tank if i am a kinght? I do not plan on raids to often but if i did, i dont want to have to always tank. i want to hit something and blow stuff up to haha

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Tuesday, December 15th 2015, 9:22pm

K/M would use a 2hd hammer or a 2hd sword and you are a damage dealer, not a tank. Though you could set yourself up either way. And, looking up the skills will not help because there is no mention of the K/M highest damage skill which is "Full Attack" which is its white hit follow on process damage. Go to the Knight forum and look up the Knight Mage and see what people say.
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Tuesday, December 15th 2015, 10:00pm

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K/M would use a 2hd hammer or a 2hd sword and you are a damage dealer, not a tank. Though you could set yourself up either way. And, looking up the skills will not help because there is no mention of the K/M highest damage skill which is "Full Attack" which is its white hit follow on process damage. Go to the Knight forum and look up the Knight Mage and see what people say.

k/m and w/m have very similar playstyles, as both are afkdps. only difference is knight usually has more tankiness/utility than warrior, while warrior usually puts out higher dps.

all up to you though.
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Tuesday, December 15th 2015, 10:49pm

Not sure if anyone said this, but i noticed you said you wanted to wear heavy armour.

Both w/m and k/m are best wearing cloth gear.

No magical damage class/ combo that i know of uses anything other then cloth unless you want to make yourself weaker.

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Tuesday, December 15th 2015, 11:04pm

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From the sounds of your other thread, it seems you will do much better as w/m. It offers more suitability and sustained damage, where as m/w is super squishy and huge burst damage, but nothing much going for it after those 15 seconds. Both do fine just for questing.
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Wednesday, December 16th 2015, 8:18pm

ok since i alreaddy have a thread opened about mages. i need to ask this. i need some help. this is my first caster class and im lost. My mana regen SUCKS!. im a lvl 8 and i can kill lvl 10 beasts but even killing things my lvl, it takes soooo much mana and it regens sooo slow. im tried of drinking potions every 30 seconds. haha. at this rate, its going to take forever to lvl up.

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Wednesday, December 16th 2015, 9:36pm

At higher levels i almost never run out of mana, i cant remeber what its like at lower levels.

Best is use flame most the time, lighting to root and maybe fireball every now and then.

Other then that, you dont really use many skills.

I dont remember what level but there is a skill that lowers mana cost for x amount of time.

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Wednesday, December 16th 2015, 10:56pm

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At higher levels i almost never run out of mana, i cant remeber what its like at lower levels.

Best is use flame most the time, lighting to root and maybe fireball every now and then.

Other then that, you dont really use many skills.

I dont remember what level but there is a skill that lowers mana cost for x amount of time.

mana is a nonissue at higher levels unless you are doing stuff (skills/instance/boss) that has % mana costs.

in terms of early game, yeah, it sucks hard. there are some skills that, when leveling, you don't need to use. just stick to flame spam and you should be fairly well off with mana.
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Wednesday, December 16th 2015, 11:47pm

why flame? I have fireball and flame maxed out and fireball still does a ton more damage plus it is an instant cast and not 3 seconds.

my fireball does 294 + 30% INT fire damage whilst flame does 238. haha.

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Thursday, December 17th 2015, 12:12am

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why flame? I have fireball and flame maxed out and fireball still does a ton more damage plus it is an instant cast and not 3 seconds.

my fireball does 294 + 30% INT fire damage whilst flame does 238. haha.

cast time modifiers. pretty soon flame /should/ be doing ~3x the damage fireball does.
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Thursday, December 17th 2015, 12:46am

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why flame? I have fireball and flame maxed out and fireball still does a ton more damage plus it is an instant cast and not 3 seconds.

my fireball does 294 + 30% INT fire damage whilst flame does 238. haha.

cast time modifiers. pretty soon flame /should/ be doing ~3x the damage fireball does.
i thought of that but i just lvled and flame only increses by 21 each upgrade whilst fireball is increasing by 30 points of damage each upgrade haha. At what lvl does flame overtake fireball?

and how do i get these cast time modifiers?

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Thursday, December 17th 2015, 12:55am

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i thought of that but i just lvled and flame only increses by 21 each upgrade whilst fireball is increasing by 30 points of damage each upgrade haha. At what lvl does flame overtake fireball?

and how do i get these cast time modifiers?

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Don't go based on the damage listed under the skill.

At 85 my fireball says 2450 + .30xint and does 214k damage

My flame says 1960 damage at level 90 but does 600k damage.

The skill icon damage amount is not to be trusted, Please try using the skill in game and see the different from flame and fireball.

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edit: cast modifier is hidden. just simply use flame and you will see.

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Thursday, December 17th 2015, 1:06am

cast time modifiers are on every magic skill that has a cast time. it simply multiplies the "base" calculated damage by whatever the cast time is, in seconds. instants have a cast time mod of 1, so an instant cast and a 1 second cast have the same modifier.
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