Runes of Magic US / AU

Don't be like Heim max suicide advance!

Just buff

Quoted from "Deliciouscream"

Basically im a bit sad as I just came back to rom from years ago and they nerfed champ/r

There were only 2 nerfs to c/r.
1) They cannot stack aow, amplified attack, and shadow explosion. And

2) rune pulse generates x10 aggro in shield form

These didn't actually kill the class. It is still viable, but is best (in my opinion) on long fights due to incredibly high patk and a strong rotation. If your tank is strong enough, rune pulse spam won't pull aggro. If your tank cannot hold, you can dps in disassembly mode. The trade off with disassembly mode is fewer rune pulses and less rage for rune overload (doesn't matter when you have death arrives active), vs more patk (not just from more str, but from rune growth). If you stat with disassembly mode in mind (stam/str) you have a MUCH higher patk compare to shield form (using 6x str/pa) due to more strenghth and rune growth.


In regards to c/p....

Quoted from "Deliciouscream"

First of all max shield form or not?

While c/p "can" dps, it is best played as a tank (imo). Due to not having any patk/dmg/attack speed buffs aside from Suicide Advance, and no short cooldown (c/r has shadowstab, c/wl has dark energy strikes) abilities that can be used reliably in between rune pulses, other champ classes are far superior damage dealers. The newest instances require multiple tanks on various boss encounters, and being able to tank while providing suicide advance / heavy bash is far better than being a sub-par damage dealer.

So you should either ....build a stam/def stam/hp set of gear in combination with +0 shield form......or stat with stam/str stry/pa stam/pa and max shield form (statting mostly stam/str allows you to tank in shield form and dps in disassembly mode).

Quoted from "Deliciouscream"

Most people are statting all str/stam. What about adding 1-2 str/pa on on gear.

Str/pa is perfectly acceptable on gear. In fact, str/pa is the primary stat as a +0 shield form damage dealer (like c/r dps). So too is stam/pa. If you are primarily a tank, stam/pa > str/pa since....well you aren't losing 0.2 attribute when in shield form. If you are primarily a damage dealer, what stats you use depends on whether you use shield form or not. str/stam > str/pa > stam/pa for disassembly mode, and str/pa > all in shield form damage dealing.

As for rotation...well, for single target tanking you just spam rune pulse whenever possible. I use heavy bash once I have aggro, and divine vengeance when it procs (rune pulse x10 aggro bonus and huge damage, divine vengeance x4 aggro and low dmg, shock strike x4 or x5 low dmg). The two elites are more for utility -- do I have aggro and does my party need heals? Do I have aggro and can I remove a harmful effect? I don't really use these skills often, except for aoe damage.

Quoted from "Deliciouscream"

Looking for some input into this class i just got the elite for priest seconday.

First of all max shield form or not?

Depends on what you want to do with the class and what kind of gear you have, how much money/time you are willing to invest. I personally have shield form at 0 and 2 different set of gear. 1 with 6x str/pa for ch/m dps and the other with 6x stam/pdef (for most parts) for ch/p tanking. Shield is at 0 because I can't dps on ch/m with max shield form.

Quoted from "Deliciouscream"

Those who are saying your able to tank and decently dps are you using two different rotations? Any input on rotation I would love to discuss. Are you using Holy Veangence? what about light pulse and holy attack?

Yes rotation for tanking and dps are different. Ch/p isn't a dps class, but on ch/r you can tank and kind of dps, i mean you will defo do more dps than a lame knight when tanking on ch/r but it won't be enough to put you in g1 and fill in for 1 of the dps. For ch/p tanking you want to use rune pulse when ever chain drive is active and use shock strike if chain drive is not active and shock strike is not on cd while keeping yourself buffed with rune energy influx and rune growth at all times. You can either put these 2 skills in your diyce for make a simple macro to constantly buff you with the skills when its run out. I personally do not use junk skills like holy vengence, light pulse, holy attack because the chances are you have chain drive active so you should be using rune pulse whether you are tanking or dpsing. I do use divine vengence when ever it's active because the extra stam is always welcomed.

As for dps, I assume you mean for ch/r, you just want to spam rune pulse and shadow stab with aoe's going off on the back ground, not much else to do there tbh.

Quoted from "Deliciouscream"

Most people are statting all str/stam. What about adding 1-2 str/pa on on gear.

Again depends on how much you want to invest, whether your shield form is at 0 or not etc. Honestly ch/p can get away with more or less any combination of str/hp/def/stam stats, there are no "right" way of doing it. iirc (haven't tanked in a while) I can go in burns with less than 40k pa on ch/p with k/p holy protection buff on and still hold aggro relatively easily.

Quoted from "Deliciouscream"

Currently trying to make a diyce. I still have my champ/r one but I dont wanna tank or play champ/p until i get a diyce for it and rotation down for either dps or tank.

rune pulse/shock strike/divine vengence in that order is what I have my diyce set up as. I do rune growth and rune energy influx myself, or run them using macro if im feeling lazy.

Ch/r is op dps if you know how to play Idk about c/p but I've seen c/m 1 shot bosses when they had all the possible buffs but in regular run I doubt they any good besides elemental rampage

Quoted from "Deliciouscream"

Thank you very much for all the replies.

I LOVE my c/r honestly. However I am not sure I can afford/farm 6 str/pa on all my gear. How are you guys statting dps c/r. Btw I have 1 point in shield form.

Any melee dps combo, you kind of want 6x str/pa, but you can probably get away with few stam/pa or str/stam in your gear.

Quoted from "mohammed1234"

Ch/r is op dps if you know how to play Idk about c/p but I've seen c/m 1 shot bosses when they had all the possible buffs but in regular run I doubt they any good besides elemental rampage

Yeah ch.m in reguler run isn't that good.

http://imgur.com/a/xcQMU

http://imgur.com/a/E0tbE

just awful

http://imgur.com/a/2FizK

Plz read my post instead of trying to fake go off lol plz

this thread has champ/p as title. please stay on topic. if you want to talk ch/r please do so in the appropriate place.

ok so the thread title has changed.
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